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In 2002. Arguing that people need a social safety net to ge tback on their fet, rabble rabble socialist rhetoric rabble rabble. It literally sounds like something out of an Obama stump speech.

Lol @ reptiles supporting this guy. LOL!

Edit: the link

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/up-with-chris-hayes/48716561#48716561

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027221&forum_id=2#21372795)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21373559)

EDIT: Holy Shit, not flame!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21375731)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21375788)

Paul Ryan under Bush: stimulus necessary, only way to create jobs for recovery.

Paul Ryan under Obama: stimulus bad, historically proven to never create jobs, emblematic of failed system of Keynesian economics.

These are literally his arguments on the house floor. Guy is a fucking hack and a traitor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21383490)

And as New York Magazine’s Jonathan Chait pointed out this morning, Ryan made the case for Keynesian stimulus in the form of income tax cuts in 2001, arguing for tax cuts that were “fast, deeper, retroactive to January 1st, to make sure we get a good punch into the economy, juice the economy to make sure that we can avoid a hard landing.”

Republicans have also repeatedly mocked calls by congressional Democrats to include renewed economic stimulus spending, such as a payroll tax holiday, as part of plans to reduce the deficit. Democrats have argued that short-term stimulus spending would help produce long-term revenue by boosting economic growth. Ryan has criticized that thinking, but in his 2002 remarks, he made exactly the same case: that short-term stimulus spending would produce budget surpluses.

“We've got to get the engine of economic growth growing again, because we now know because of recession, we don't have the revenues that we wanted to, we don't have the revenues we need, to fix Medicare, to fix Social Security. To fix these issues we've got to get Americans back to work,” Ryan said. “Then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back. That is the constructive answer we're trying to accomplish here on, yes, a bipartisan basis.”

Ryan also argued in 2002 for helping workers pay for their health insurance and extending unemployment benefits. Since Obama has been in office, Ryan has voted against extending unemployment insurance.

“It's more than just giving someone an unemployment check,” Ryan said of the Bush stimulus bill. “It's also helping those people with their health insurance while they've lost their jobs and more important than just that unemployment check, it's to do what we can to give people a paycheck.”

Ryan called such measures “time-tested, proven, bipartisan solutions to get businesses to stop laying off people, to hire people back, and to help those people who have lost their jobs,” and urged congressional Democrats to break ranks and join Republicans in supporting the president’s plan.

“I've just recently read in our local Capitol Hill newspaper that members from the majority party in the other body want stimulus. They're breaking with their party leadership and asking for stimulus legislation to pass because in their home states they have a lot of people who are losing their jobs,” Ryan said. “I urge members to drop the demagoguery and to pass this bill to help us work together to get the American people back to work and help those people who've lost their jobs.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21412860)

Ryan: Me first! Country second ... after my political district.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21412818)

Ryan 2002: Keynesian economics necessary to save America. Opponents engaged in demagoguery.

Ryan 2012: Keynesian economics discredited and wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21412793)

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/08/presented-with-letters-ryan-admits-requesting-stimulus-cash/

Ryan 2002: Said stimulus was effective and necessary.

"Ryan’s advocacy of stimulus spending wasn’t limited to Washington, either. When he returned home to face constituents, he used similar language to make the case for the Bush stimulus bill. “You have to spend a little to grow a little,” Ryan told constituents at a town hall in Wisconsin in January 2002, according to the Journal-Times, a local newspaper. “What we're trying to do is stimulate that part of the economy that's on its back."

And as New York Magazine’s Jonathan Chait pointed out this morning, Ryan made the case for Keynesian stimulus in the form of income tax cuts in 2001, arguing for tax cuts that were “fast, deeper, retroactive to January 1st, to make sure we get a good punch into the economy, juice the economy to make sure that we can avoid a hard landing.”

Republicans have also repeatedly mocked calls by congressional Democrats to include renewed economic stimulus spending, such as a payroll tax holiday, as part of plans to reduce the deficit. Democrats have argued that short-term stimulus spending would help produce long-term revenue by boosting economic growth. Ryan has criticized that thinking, but in his 2002 remarks, he made exactly the same case: that short-term stimulus spending would produce budget surpluses.

“We've got to get the engine of economic growth growing again, because we now know because of recession, we don't have the revenues that we wanted to, we don't have the revenues we need, to fix Medicare, to fix Social Security. To fix these issues we've got to get Americans back to work,” Ryan said. “Then the surpluses come back, then the jobs come back. That is the constructive answer we're trying to accomplish here on, yes, a bipartisan basis.”

Ryan also argued in 2002 for helping workers pay for their health insurance and extending unemployment benefits. Since Obama has been in office, Ryan has voted against extending unemployment insurance.

“It's more than just giving someone an unemployment check,” Ryan said of the Bush stimulus bill. “It's also helping those people with their health insurance while they've lost their jobs and more important than just that unemployment check, it's to do what we can to give people a paycheck.”

Ryan called such measures “time-tested, proven, bipartisan solutions to get businesses to stop laying off people, to hire people back, and to help those people who have lost their jobs,” and urged congressional Democrats to break ranks and join Republicans in supporting the president’s plan.

“I've just recently read in our local Capitol Hill newspaper that members from the majority party in the other body want stimulus. They're breaking with their party leadership and asking for stimulus legislation to pass because in their home states they have a lot of people who are losing their jobs,” Ryan said. “I urge members to drop the demagoguery and to pass this bill to help us work together to get the American people back to work and help those people who've lost their jobs.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21412858)

http://www.propublica.org/special/the-stimulus-plan-a-detailed-list-of-spending

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21413053)

The total package was $288 billion in tax cuts, $114 billion to states, $82.2 billion in unemployment insurance and job training, and $357 billion on spending.

Link to Ryan being consistent about stimulus being ineffective?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21413104)

That "$400 Billion in tax cuts" IS OVER TEN YEARS. Congress only authorizes the cuts in 1 or 2 year installments i.e that figure is not guaranteed.

The spending was authorized immediately.

So, what really happened is the FEDGOV spent 1/2 a trillion dollars with the PROMISE of future tax cuts.

HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21413149)

http://www.propublica.org/special/stimulus-plan-taxcut-list

Like I said, we spent all the money appropriated in the stimulus package immediately, and the total tax figures were calculated over 10 years, with congress authorizing them in 1 to 2 installments. Like I said, there is no GUARANTEE congress will keep reauthorizing the tax cuts even though we have spent all of the stimulus money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21413237)

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2027294&forum_id=2#21412941)