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Ppl say biglaw is "Soul-crushing" - what does this mean?

What do they mean by soul-crushing? LIke, in practical effe...
Impertinent Idiot
  04/28/13
Yeah, it's weird, but you can actually feel what little life...
Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button
  04/28/13
Depressing. Not being able to feel good even when not workin...
diverse rehab really tough guy
  04/28/13
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Violent Cracking Chapel
  04/28/13
You know that feeling when you're seven years old and you're...
submissive cordovan temple
  04/28/13
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Fighting pisswyrm
  04/28/13
what about the camraderie? the feeling of winning a motion?...
Impertinent Idiot
  04/29/13
Lolol. Don't forget intellectually stimulating work.
diverse rehab really tough guy
  04/29/13
lulz
180 house-broken fanboi
  04/29/13
Camraderie like when you were in a ditch with a bunch of oth...
Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button
  04/29/13
dude you're changing commas around. Even if you're lit, the ...
arrogant vigorous dragon gas station
  04/29/13
Titcr
Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces
  04/29/13
almost like a law firm is somehow dependent on fees to survi...
Swashbuckling Indian Lodge
  04/29/13
sounds almost like a job or something. where you have to go ...
startled crystalline police squad ladyboy
  04/29/13
(2l desperately convincing self that he's actually going to ...
Violet exhilarant abode
  04/29/13
(courageous lawyer)
startled crystalline police squad ladyboy
  04/30/13
A feeling of perpetual numbness where you just know your sou...
smoky black woman
  04/29/13
but why does it make you less creative and funny? what is t...
Impertinent Idiot
  04/29/13
Long hours, high stress, surrounded by other soulless dron...
smoky black woman
  04/29/13
what you do has very little to no meaning or value
Fighting pisswyrm
  04/29/13
The whole "soul crushing" thing is a little melodr...
galvanic bespoke property
  04/29/13
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Fighting pisswyrm
  04/29/13
Just keep refreshing Mint.com. That next paycheck is coming...
Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button
  04/29/13
Thread didn't really depress me that much until this one. I...
180 house-broken fanboi
  04/29/13
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  04/29/13
You can see your whole life spread out in front of you, divi...
Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces
  04/29/13
already underrated
Honey-headed Cerebral Casino Hissy Fit
  04/29/13
Thank you brother.
Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces
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Fighting pisswyrm
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Brilliant lodge
  04/29/13
wow
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smoky black woman
  04/29/13
180
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Slate mind-boggling karate pit
  04/29/13
This really is the 1-99 bands.
submissive cordovan temple
  04/29/13
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Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces
  04/29/13
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  04/29/13
Well said!
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  04/29/13
omigosh
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180
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180^180^180
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excitant therapy
  04/30/13
How can it crush that which there is not to crush?
tantric drab base immigrant
  04/29/13
it sucks because if every associate collectively agreed that...
arrogant vigorous dragon gas station
  04/29/13
So you're saying we need a union.
Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces
  04/29/13
what if all chill fratty xoxoers somehow concocted some way ...
bonkers messiness international law enforcement agency
  04/29/13
we'd just all be fired. there's always more lemmings who wil...
arrogant vigorous dragon gas station
  04/29/13
This is the greatest problem we face.
aqua round eye
  04/29/13
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Snowy twinkling uncleanness
  04/29/13
If you went into the biglaw rather than doing something more...
Sapphire Curious Spot Boltzmann
  04/29/13
180
Pink blood rage digit ratio
  04/29/13
What a bunch of babies. Have you ever had to cashier at a bu...
Vibrant School Cafeteria
  04/29/13
No one said it was the worst job out there. Most jobs are de...
smoky black woman
  04/29/13
Forbes says it's the worst job in America. http://aboveth...
Multi-colored mood french chef
  04/29/13
unhappiest doesn't mean worst. someone's subjective feelings...
Nofapping Queen Of The Night
  04/30/13
Lol, nice flame.
submissive cordovan temple
  04/29/13
Retail is tough, and yes, I've worked 12 hour days on my fee...
Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces
  04/29/13
So, retail for $8/hr beats biglaw for $80/hr? I don't buy i...
Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button
  04/29/13
Obviously the only reason anyone does biglaw is for the mone...
Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces
  04/29/13
Very few people do biglaw for more than a few years. If we ...
Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button
  04/29/13
Right. So, as with retail, we can agree that those 3 years a...
aqua round eye
  04/29/13
It's pretty soul crushing. I'm still glad I'm getting $80/h...
Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button
  04/29/13
That's nothing. Try hanging off the back of a truck pickin...
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  04/29/13
underrated
Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces
  05/03/13
this is why it IS soul-crushing you know it shouldn't be, y...
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  04/29/13
i wouldn't call it soul-crushing based on my experience, but...
milky azn parlor
  04/29/13
It's mostly the long hours with real or manufactured stress,...
Dashing patrolman
  04/29/13
the worst part are the co workers who actually do enjoy it.
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  04/29/13
i was at an alumni event where i was talking to an associate...
milky azn parlor
  04/29/13
I actually messaged a girl on okcupid the other day who is a...
Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button
  04/30/13
Date: June 30th, 2010 2:36 AM Author: joyshtick Well, ...
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  04/29/13
Classic
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  04/30/13
Your entire life is a job where you accomplish nothing and p...
fragrant sick office
  04/29/13
Accomplish nothing? What about solving your clients' bigges...
Impertinent Idiot
  04/29/13
*hands client 6-figure bill and half a baby* *waits for exp...
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  04/30/13
cr
Snowy twinkling uncleanness
  04/30/13
lmao
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Impertinent Idiot
  04/29/13
1. the work is tedious. biglaw is 99% organizational bullshi...
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  05/03/13


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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:51 PM
Author: Impertinent Idiot

What do they mean by soul-crushing? LIke, in practical effects and feelings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097787)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:52 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button

Yeah, it's weird, but you can actually feel what little life you have left inside you getting sucked out. Physically feel it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097794)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:52 PM
Author: diverse rehab really tough guy

Depressing. Not being able to feel good even when not working because works sucks the life out of you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097796)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:53 PM
Author: Violent Cracking Chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097800)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:55 PM
Author: submissive cordovan temple

You know that feeling when you're seven years old and you're pedaling to the bottom of the hill and you hit the jump and then fly through the air and everything kind of pauses and you know that this is the greatest moment of your life.

The opposite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097810)



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Date: April 28th, 2013 11:59 PM
Author: Fighting pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097829)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:02 AM
Author: Impertinent Idiot

what about the camraderie? the feeling of winning a motion? a case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097847)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:03 AM
Author: diverse rehab really tough guy

Lolol. Don't forget intellectually stimulating work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097854)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:06 AM
Author: 180 house-broken fanboi

lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097878)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:12 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button

Camraderie like when you were in a ditch with a bunch of other chill bros in Nam, and the napalm drop went a little astray?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097911)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:29 AM
Author: arrogant vigorous dragon gas station

dude you're changing commas around. Even if you're lit, the cases drag on for decades. There's no dramatic moment where everyone cheers. It's more like, "Finally...well, on to the next one"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097998)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:30 AM
Author: Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces

Titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098005)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 6:38 AM
Author: Swashbuckling Indian Lodge

almost like a law firm is somehow dependent on fees to survive or something...so weird! why cannot law be like obama's america, where we just get checks for existing? SOUL CRUSHING!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098751)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:07 PM
Author: startled crystalline police squad ladyboy

sounds almost like a job or something. where you have to go to work and do work, and it's not what you'd choose to do if you could literally choose whatever you wanted. man, i don't know how you lawyers do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099557)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 7:37 PM
Author: Violet exhilarant abode

(2l desperately convincing self that he's actually going to LOVE biglaw)

he's answering a question, not making the case that the job sucks precisely because there are no cheer moments.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23102425)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 10:31 AM
Author: startled crystalline police squad ladyboy

(courageous lawyer)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23106276)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:03 AM
Author: smoky black woman

A feeling of perpetual numbness where you just know your soul is dying. You become less creative, less funny, stop caring about anything except your next paycheck and eventually become everything you once hated. And the worst thing is that you stop seeing a way out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097852)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:04 AM
Author: Impertinent Idiot

but why does it make you less creative and funny? what is the mechanism? just working long hours?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097869)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:09 AM
Author: smoky black woman

Long hours, high stress, surrounded by other soulless drones, dull work that is mostly nit picking small minutia. Also the hours generally result in you having little social interaction outside of work. It all adds up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097891)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:10 AM
Author: Fighting pisswyrm

what you do has very little to no meaning or value

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097905)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:14 AM
Author: galvanic bespoke property

The whole "soul crushing" thing is a little melodramatic.

However, when you are at work 12+ hours a day, when you have to check your Blackberry every 30 minutes when you're home or when you have some free time on the weekend, when you have to pull all nighters, and bill 2,000 hours a year, you just become tired and distracted by your work and Blackberry. You become less interesting because 80 percent of your life is spent at work. Even when you're with other people, you're more distracted than you used to be (at least I was) and not really focusing as well on the moment.

When I went in-house, I realized that it's actually nice to talk to co-workers during the day. At the firm, nobody likes chatting because they're all thinking how they'll have to stay later that evening to make up for wasted time. When you're in-house you don't care. I can actually go lunch now and I don't care how long it takes; I can even take aimless walks during the day for a break. I can blow off an afternoon and surf on the internet, and it doesn't matter because nobody accounts for my time.

The law firm mentality and the 2,000+ billable hour year are really just not suited for normal people, if you ask me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097923)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:17 AM
Author: Fighting pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097940)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:13 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button

Just keep refreshing Mint.com. That next paycheck is coming soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097916)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:19 AM
Author: 180 house-broken fanboi

Thread didn't really depress me that much until this one. I look at Mint way too much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097948)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:07 PM
Author: big market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23103550)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:27 AM
Author: Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces

You can see your whole life spread out in front of you, divided into .1s of an hour. None of it resonating in any meaningful way. You see your death, your funeral. Being remembered by your colleagues at a firm lunch, or perhaps a mass email.

If you did good, "One of the firm's stalwarts passed away this morning. Greg Stachkin joined the firm in 2009 and was elevated to shareholder in 2017. Greg enhanced our oil and gas practice, growing it from a small three attorney section to over ten attorneys in four offices by last year. He leaves behind his wife Mabel, their beloved pool boy Ramon, and three children, none of whom can make it to the funeral due to prior commitments."

If you were shitty, "A valued member of our community, Bob Lablat, passed away this weekend. Bob was always quick with a joke and never hesitated to pitch in when needed. In lieu of flowers, Bob's family has asked for donations to the Of Counsel Rescue League, which seeks to raise awareness of the epidemic of elderly Of Counsels being euthanized. Donuts will be available on 26 in honor of Bob's memory."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23097993)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:30 AM
Author: Honey-headed Cerebral Casino Hissy Fit

already underrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098008)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 1:08 PM
Author: Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces

Thank you brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099858)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:40 AM
Author: Fighting pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098052)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:51 AM
Author: Brilliant lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098089)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 1:05 AM
Author: Sable corner

wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098138)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 6:50 AM
Author: smoky black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098761)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 7:17 AM
Author: supple regret marketing idea

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098774)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 9:03 AM
Author: Slate mind-boggling karate pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098863)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 9:17 AM
Author: submissive cordovan temple

This really is the 1-99 bands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098902)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 9:29 AM
Author: Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098925)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 9:59 AM
Author: Abnormal Orchestra Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098996)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 11:03 AM
Author: aqua round eye

Well said!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099202)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 11:17 AM
Author: titillating dilemma pocket flask

omigosh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099286)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:12 PM
Author: Thriller territorial plaza hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099571)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:14 PM
Author: aromatic place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099577)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:35 PM
Author: motley orchid newt hunting ground

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099673)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 4:48 PM
Author: concupiscible bawdyhouse community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23101306)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 9:51 PM
Author: Pink blood rage digit ratio

180^180^180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23103447)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:02 PM
Author: Puce electric furnace senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23103518)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 10:29 AM
Author: sepia trip puppy range



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23106265)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 10:57 AM
Author: excitant therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23106377)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:32 AM
Author: tantric drab base immigrant

How can it crush that which there is not to crush?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098018)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:32 AM
Author: arrogant vigorous dragon gas station

it sucks because if every associate collectively agreed that "fuck that, I'll bill 1800-2000 hours and no more" it'd be a pretty normal, if decently busy job. Instead you have fucking backstabbing strivers who will do anything to bill as much as possible and brownnose and casually mention how you did something wrong innocently and jesus, just fuck all big law people!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098020)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:48 AM
Author: Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces

So you're saying we need a union.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098080)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:53 AM
Author: bonkers messiness international law enforcement agency

what if all chill fratty xoxoers somehow concocted some way for all of them to work at the same firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098100)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 1:00 AM
Author: arrogant vigorous dragon gas station

we'd just all be fired. there's always more lemmings who will come in and work more for less. I actually don't understand why salaries are as high as they are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098123)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 11:03 AM
Author: aqua round eye

This is the greatest problem we face.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099206)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:46 AM
Author: Snowy twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099136)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:57 AM
Author: Sapphire Curious Spot Boltzmann

If you went into the biglaw rather than doing something more interesting with your life, that's a pretty good indication that your soul was pretty frail to begin with, and was going to be crushed by something sooner or later. I'm saying this as a biglawyer, so I don't mean it in a bad way -- just as an observation.

Anyway, the point is that biglaw isn't really particularly soul-crushing, but biglawyers are desperate to have their souls crushed by conforming to the biglaw shtick, but at the same time don't like to think of themselves as striver conformists. So naturally, they begin to feel like somehow biglaw is particularly soul-crushing, and they somehow fell into this fate unwittingly, even though this is sort of exactly what they were looking for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098112)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 9:55 PM
Author: Pink blood rage digit ratio

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23103478)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 6:20 AM
Author: Vibrant School Cafeteria

What a bunch of babies. Have you ever had to cashier at a busy grocery store? Or stock shelves for TEN FUCKING HOURS straight? Or deal with elderly coupon fanatics? Now that is soul-crushing. Working in a prestigious law firm is one of the best jobs in the world. You don't know how lucky you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098736)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 6:53 AM
Author: smoky black woman

No one said it was the worst job out there. Most jobs are depressing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098765)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 9:15 AM
Author: Multi-colored mood french chef

Forbes says it's the worst job in America.

http://abovethelaw.com/2013/03/unhappiest-job-in-america-take-a-guess/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098898)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 11:59 AM
Author: Nofapping Queen Of The Night

unhappiest doesn't mean worst. someone's subjective feelings about his job are much different than the objective truth about how good or bad it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23106619)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 9:19 AM
Author: submissive cordovan temple

Lol, nice flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23098906)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:48 AM
Author: Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces

Retail is tough, and yes, I've worked 12 hour days on my feet. Your bones ache but you wake up refreshed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099142)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:53 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button

So, retail for $8/hr beats biglaw for $80/hr? I don't buy it. I think lawyers just tend to be miserable people to begin with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099156)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:55 AM
Author: Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces

Obviously the only reason anyone does biglaw is for the money, but that is a fake comparison. No one does retail their whole life, or at least not stocking shelves. You do that for a few years then move up to another level. Also, it's people in jobs like that their job is not their main focus in life. They belong to softball leagues, they are active in their kids' lives, they have hobbies. The average biglawyer has none of that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099170)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:59 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button

Very few people do biglaw for more than a few years. If we were really stuck doing it for 25 years, I would agree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099187)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 11:05 AM
Author: aqua round eye

Right. So, as with retail, we can agree that those 3 years are pretty soul crushing, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099216)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:00 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button

It's pretty soul crushing. I'm still glad I'm getting $80/hr though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099528)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 1:19 PM
Author: maize sexy bbw pervert

That's nothing. Try hanging off the back of a truck picking up pieces of broken glass off the street with your bare ass cheeks, then you can complain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099942)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 5:49 PM
Author: Twinkling Stirring Organic Girlfriend Feces

underrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23128547)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 7:42 PM
Author: Razzle tanning salon

this is why it IS soul-crushing

you know it shouldn't be, you know you make excellent money compared to the poors, and still things suck so badly you question whether or not it is worth it

at least after you get your debt paid off

or save enough for a down payment

or build up the retirement enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23102465)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:19 PM
Author: milky azn parlor

i wouldn't call it soul-crushing based on my experience, but the constant being on call and checking your blackberry last thing at night and first thing in the morning, even when on vacation, makes you just a distracted person. it's always normal to be at dinner w/ a bunch of lawyers with their blackberries out to monitor if the red light goes off and once you leave biglaw, you realize how absolutely ridiculous it is to live your life that way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099590)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 12:47 PM
Author: Dashing patrolman

It's mostly the long hours with real or manufactured stress, constantly being on-call and never feeling that you're away from work, and the lack of meaningful work or sense of accomplishment (unless you live for the approval of partners). I hate coming to work every morning, and most of my coworkers do too. Even if you're slow, you don't enjoy it because you're worried about being slow. Often, when you come to work in the morning, you don't know when you're going to leave that night. None of it is all that terrible, but after years of living this way, I'm a much more miserable, irritated person, and even small everyday things like going to the cleaners or getting a haircut become annoying impositions that cut into billable time.

The culture of most firms is shit, too. Everyone is status-obsessed and want to play like we're big important lawyers, better than the firm just behind us in whatever ranking and just as good as those ahead of us. Many people ended up in biglaw by following the striver path of least resistance and the resulting unhappiness pervades your interaction with coworkers. Somehow, everyone becomes a biglaw drone and any personality quirks or creativity is slowly ground out of you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099747)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 1:20 PM
Author: electric emerald nursing home nowag

the worst part are the co workers who actually do enjoy it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23099948)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 6:02 PM
Author: milky azn parlor

i was at an alumni event where i was talking to an associate at a prestigious sweatshop. when i found out where he worked, i jokingly said "my sincerest apologies" and he launched into this speech about how he loves the work and doesn't mind the hours. it's people like him that make biglaw intolerable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23101828)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 12:08 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Garrison Factory Reset Button

I actually messaged a girl on okcupid the other day who is an associate at kirkland. When I asked her name, she responded by sending a link to her kirkland profile. No joke.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23106659)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 4:37 PM
Author: Unhinged travel guidebook theatre

Date: June 30th, 2010 2:36 AM

Author: joyshtick

Well, imagine you're puking, but all of a sudden you puke and instead of vomit and puke and pukevomit and bullshitpukevomit coming out your partner exits your stomach through your throat and starts talking to you. He says to you, "There are laws you can find in the library and cases you can find in Westlaw and firm guidelines you can find in the handbook and social guidelines you can ask your mother about, but there's nobody who can tell you whether you should actually work here or do something else, or what that something else might be, whether you'll be happy or sad, free or unfree, actualized or repressed, and above all nobody can tell you whether you'll be doing the right thing. In addition, there is a proliferation of meaningless signs all around you that scream with a thousand dead voices and you can't even tell whether it's in a language you've never learned or no language at all. You are unable even to tell whether the world is sensible or methodical and whether there is a purpose." Then he splatters all over the ground in front of you and you start puking your guts out again, and yet you still have to go to work tomorrow and bill as though nothing had ever happened.

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1353631&forum_id=2#15381589

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23101214)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 10:35 AM
Author: sepia trip puppy range

Classic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23106303)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 6:24 PM
Author: fragrant sick office

Your entire life is a job where you accomplish nothing and people yell at you at random intervals that are entirely outside of your control. I have worked at a normal job. No, this is not what a normal job is like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23102015)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:03 PM
Author: Impertinent Idiot

Accomplish nothing? What about solving your clients' biggest problems? Resolving cases to their satisfaction?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23103520)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 10:54 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle lilac national

*hands client 6-figure bill and half a baby*

*waits for expression of "satisfaction"*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23106367)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 12:05 PM
Author: Snowy twinkling uncleanness

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23106642)



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Date: April 30th, 2013 10:55 AM
Author: Orange irradiated home dysfunction

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23106370)



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Date: April 29th, 2013 10:11 PM
Author: Impertinent Idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23103572)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 5:58 PM
Author: Slimy lettuce

1. the work is tedious. biglaw is 99% organizational bullshit and useless nitpicking over shit that really doesn't matter.

2. the people are awful. more awful than you can imagine.

3. it's thankless.

4. unless you're a true introvert, it's lonely and antisocial.

5. it destroys your personal life.

6. you lose sight of any way out and quickly become addicted to the money.

7. you build no relevant skills for anything but less lucrative versions of similar work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2242594&forum_id=2#23128593)