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Date: March 1st, 2007 6:45 AM Author: alcoholic location background story Alright guys, I just spent the past seven hours doing a complete overhaul of the thread and post management system. When rachmiel designed the original tools it was with the assumption that only me and him would be using them, so they left much to be desired and weren't really suitable for letting other people use them.
Anyway, the tools have been completely redesigned. Here is how it works now:
1) Moderators can move threads between school-related and off-topic at the click of a button (this is unchanged from the previous system).
2) Moderators do "soft deletes" of threads. This means that when a moderator hits the delete button, the thread disappears off the board, but is still stored in the database. If the thread was deleted by mistake, rachmiel and I can restore it by just going into the database.
3) Moderators can no longer edit anyone's posts -- the only people who can do edits are me, rachmiel, and Boondocks (and of course the person who made the post).
4) Instead of editing posts, moderators can now do "soft deletes" of individual posts, meaning that when they hit the delete button the post will disappear from the thread, but can be restored by rachmiel or myself if it was deleted by mistake. Eventually we'll create a feature so mods and the original poster can see the removed posts so that mods can restore the post if the original poster edits out whatever was wrong with it (e.g. removes an outted poster's name).
5) I've created a database that keeps track of every single action a moderator does. So, if a thread or post disappears, we'll know who was responsible. Eventually I'm going to create a special page that only moderators can access so that all moderators can see every change made by all other moderators, with the hope that moderators will self-police themselves based on their actions being known to their peers.
Now, for what's going to be expected of moderators. It's pretty straightforward: moderators will move threads that have been misclassified, get rid of spam, and enforce the anti-outing policy. In other words, routine stuff that needs to get done but rachmiel and I simply can't do ourselves anymore. Anything beyond that routine stuff will have to get approval from me and/or rachmiel depending on the request (most likely rachmiel). If mods remove stuff they shouldn't, just email the contact address with the details and rachmiel or I will restore it.
So, with all that out of the way -- any nominations? Just to be crystal clear, this isn't a popularity contest: if 100 people nominate WhitePride he still won't be made a mod, and if 100 people say to demod NYCFan he'll be a mod if he wishes to remain one. Similarly, there are a few people rachmiel and I are likely going to invite to be mods even if their names don't appear here because we know they are reliable and trust them to do a good job.
Obviously some people are going to be disappointed no matter who gets chosen, but I want to reiterate that this site is not changing any of its policies, but is just delegating some work to reliable people who want to volunteer, and anyone who goes on a power trip and decides to unilaterally create new policies or make exceptions for friends and refuse to stop *will* lose their modship (the whole point of this is to reduce our workload, and my workload isn't going to be reduced much if I have to manually restore dozens of wrongly deleted threads from the database every day).
When mods get selected, their monikers will be posted in a mod thread I'm going to create later today, so there are not going to be any secret or hidden moderators or anything like that. You guys can feel free to use that thread to report threads or posts that are within the mods' jurisdiction.
Feel free to nominate people or to volunteer here. Not sure how many people we're going to take, but at the very least I'd like to gauge interest and get people's feedback on this whole system. |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 7:05 AM Author: hateful laser beams senate I'll go ahead and nominate/volunteer myself. I spend plenty of time between the college and grad boards (with regular forays to the law side) and I'm not too controversial. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690078) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 8:08 AM Author: cordovan galvanic locale sex offender 1. BIG CHANGES 2. I nominate more feces guy 3. Please, for the love of christ, if you are not going to do anything about aznazn and people who get off on posting the word nigger, and if you're not going to create an ignore poster feature, at least create a third level of filtration so that the utter garbage nonsense spam that 95% of us dont want to see can be excluded. Hence
-school-related -off-topic -garbage mode
That way your mods can put all aznazn sewage and all the threads that so cleverly feature the word "nigger" and maybe one or two other selected categories of garbage/spam posting prominently in that third category, no free speech is impinged upon and the rest of us normal folk can get back to enjoying this board.
Just a suggestion. |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 8:45 AM Author: Lime market I concur RE: a "Garbage" mode. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690126) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 9:02 AM Author: high-end prole lodge This "garbage mode" is a good idea. I like the off topic stuff (like the ladies and lunch threads) but the racist spam that has no purpose other than to use offensive words is pretty useless to me (and I assume most other people). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690156) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 9:45 AM Author: Azure Cerebral Resort The problem with the "garbage mode" is that you will never get a consensus on what goes in it and what stays out, e.g. http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=587925&mc=42&forum_id=2#7688289 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690313) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 9:52 AM Author: Hot halford I agree. Also, no one WANTS to read the garbage, so why would anyone ever post something to go in that mode? The mods would have to move a whole bunch of shit over there, which would make more work for them.
Plus then there's the issue of pissing off the flamers by moving or deleting their threads and as a result, they go flame- and spam-crazy. |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 9:50 AM Author: Titillating piazza Why even have a garbage mode? Nobody would be in garbage mode if all it does is filter out racist threads and azn. They will just resort to posting in the wrong topic and you're going to have to delete all the resulting spam.
Why tiptoe around it when you can just delete it altogether? It's not about censoring the topic (blacks are bashed everywhere on this board no matter what); It's about eliminating that spam of like 50+ nigger threads in one day. All by the same one or two posters. |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 9:53 AM Author: Hot halford Deleting threads is really stepping into dangerous territory. I really feel for GTO on this issue, because in many ways he'll be condemned for it by posters no matter what he does. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690352) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 10:06 AM Author: Titillating piazza Nobody is going to condemn him for deleting spam. It's not the inherent racism that's being deleted; it's the spam.
That racism is going to permeate the board no matter how many threads GTO deletes. |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 10:25 AM Author: Hot halford What I'm saying is, it can be a fine line as to what should be deleted. If they cross that line once or twice, people get all up in arms about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690517) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 1:19 PM Author: electric indian lodge you mean like NYCFan does ALL THE TIME? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691486) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 10:12 AM Author: cordovan galvanic locale sex offender "Why tiptoe around it when you can just delete it altogether?"
This place has been around for 3 years and GTO has never done this for reasons of free-speech and libertarianism or some bullshit. I guess that's his prerogative. I'm just trying to offer a palatable alternative that might actually improve the content on this board.
As far as intentionally posting spam in non-"garbage" mode, I realize this might be resorted to but 1) the new mods can just send them to the appropriate filter ("garbage") and 2) GTO has said in the past intentionally and maliciously posting nonsense in school-related is grounds for deletion.
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Date: March 1st, 2007 10:45 AM Author: wonderful awkward locus Garbage-mode is a great idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690594) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:21 AM Author: alcoholic location background story Third level of filtration is an interesting idea. I'll look into it sometime this week. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690712) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:42 AM Author: yellow mood depressive alternatively, what about a limit ot the # of threads you can start within a given period? i dont really think there's a need to post more than (for example) 5 new threads per minute,
a double limit would be even better - 5 per minute, and 10 per 15 minutes |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:44 AM Author: Laughsome silver mexican not a bad idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690833) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:48 AM Author: alcoholic location background story Already exists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690855) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:34 AM Author: yellow mood depressive this is a GREAT idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690775) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 8:50 AM Author: bistre curious church Blue Smoke & ruskie package deal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690134) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 10:11 AM Author: orange nighttime french chef I agree with this. Moderators are a terrible idea, at least this way we'll be entertained. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690446) |
Date: March 1st, 2007 10:11 AM Author: orange nighttime french chef Anyone who volunteers should not have the job. This is not a good idea. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690449) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 10:26 AM Author: Hot halford He's not saying that anyone who volunteers will have the job. I think he's more looking for people that are trustworthy to volunteer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690524) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:23 AM Author: alcoholic location background story Notice that it's a nominations thread, not a volunteer thread. Not going to preclude people from volunteering, particularly when the volunteer is someone that I trust like Joe Caltech, but nominations are obviously going to carry a lot more weight when it comes to people I don't know on a personal level. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690727) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 10:36 AM Author: floppy deranged public bath dog poop Rowan, obviously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690559) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:24 AM Author: alcoholic location background story The job is hers if she wants it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690728) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 1:27 PM Author: wine insecure school Sorry, I'll have to pass. Nothing personal - other commitments, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691536) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 2:08 PM Author: alcoholic location background story I figured as much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691780) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 3:08 PM Author: floppy deranged public bath dog poop WHY?? It's a no loss prospect. you don't have to come to the board more. It's just that when you're on the board you have the ability to moderate. we're going to have to start a grass roots conscript rowam campaign. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692135) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 3:17 PM Author: wine insecure school Beecause I have a job, have some complicated stuff going on outside of my job, and generally don't have the ability to do anything more than a very half-assed job at moderating.
I'm also not sure I want to be tied to the board any more than I already am, or that I have the energy to take the sort of shit that GTO does. |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 10:46 AM Author: wonderful awkward locus :D (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690600) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:04 AM Author: Hyperventilating trust fund love of her life Hazelrah (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690650) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:05 AM Author: Laughsome silver mexican good call (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690656) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:24 AM Author: alcoholic location background story Job is his if he wants it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690729) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:30 AM Author: Azure Cerebral Resort Well the problem is that I think anybody who would be good/fair at the job would recognize that it would be rather boring with not much to show for it. In fact (as somebody suggested above) I would have to assume that anybody particularly interested in the job would have some ulterior motive for wanting it.
I obviously have the time to invest in some board-related stuff (my blog, PPP list, etc.) but those are things that I find independently interesting/useful and it's always nice to know I can just drop them if I get bored. |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:32 AM Author: yellow mood depressive sadly, this is probably tcr for any normal, rational, mentally balanced posters
once xo becomes a job, it's not ognna be so much fun |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:33 AM Author: Unhinged big theatre Not to mention that moderators will inevitably come under heavy fire--and most of the balanced posters have already revealed a lot of personal information about themselves. A dangerous combination . . . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690767) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 12:03 PM Author: alcoholic location background story Well, the benefit is you'd be able to delete posts outing you yourself without going through me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690960) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 1:04 PM Author: Unhinged big theatre Touche! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691383) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 12:01 PM Author: alcoholic location background story Oh, you'd be able to drop this too. I'm expecting high turnover, and actually I'd prefer if there was a lot of cycling in if only to prevent some sort of elite poster class from developing like on LSP and LSD. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690948) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 6:03 PM Author: glassy vibrant brunch turdskin What if you were paid $2.75/day? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7693519) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:40 AM Author: Thirsty place of business seconded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690817) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:05 AM Author: Laughsome silver mexican sup? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690653) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:15 AM Author: diverse business firm Clearly whokebe and aznazn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690694) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:29 AM Author: Unhinged big theatre Shiveringjenny, Rowan, MTG76. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690741) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:32 AM Author: cracking temple great choices
I recommend checking out the recent thread on the SullCrom associate for indicators of potential candidates -- these people seem to "get" where the natural line between a fun thread and a bad joke lies. |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:35 AM Author: Hairraiser impressive principal's office boistinker A Horse Walks Into A Bar |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:37 AM Author: yellow mood depressive hi, AHWIAB! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690799) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:39 AM Author: Laughsome silver mexican sup? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690813) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:47 AM Author: yellow mood depressive just giving you shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690849) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:48 AM Author: Laughsome silver mexican my first order of business as a mod will be banning you. tyia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690858) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:50 AM Author: yellow mood depressive ABUSE! NAZI! RAAAAAPE!
GTO! he started it! |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 1:39 PM Author: Scarlet adventurous ape seconded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691600) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:37 AM Author: salmon chest-beating base mediumfries, joe, and rowan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690800) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 2:21 PM Author: hateful laser beams senate econ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691861) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:56 AM Author: wonderful awkward locus Will moderators get paid? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690907) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 12:10 PM Author: alcoholic location background story Paid in love. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691000) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 12:08 PM Author: stimulating round eye chancemeeting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7690984) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 12:10 PM Author: alcoholic location background story Job is his if he wants it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691005) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 12:11 PM Author: Know-it-all sweet tailpipe Petrodollar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691008) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 12:13 PM Author: Cruel-hearted rough-skinned station boltzmann As long as the moderators support a platform of strong anti-aznaznazn-spamming, then I'm for said moderators. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691018) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 12:59 PM Author: Primrose trailer park indirect expression I'll do it, but only if I get to make business cards.
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Date: March 1st, 2007 1:36 PM Author: canary nibblets electric furnace :D (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691588) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 1:56 PM Author: Gay dashing stag film I nominate PAAAACE. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691714) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 2:35 PM Author: fuchsia son of senegal headpube I would do it, if offered (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691949) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 2:11 PM Author: thriller carmine hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691800) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 2:22 PM Author: Scarlet adventurous ape tytyty, I'd be happy to do it BTW. Lord knows I spend 8 hours a day here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691862) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 2:30 PM Author: thriller carmine hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691911) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 2:30 PM Author: Scarlet adventurous ape wtf? lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691920) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 2:22 PM Author: Snowy violent hall I am willing to help out when I have time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7691863) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 2:23 PM Author: Magical blue blood rage cuckoldry i would help out
also, define "spam" |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 3:03 PM Author: flesh mind-boggling tanning salon twinkling uncleanness dmferry/grate t-shirt onizuka (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692113) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 3:08 PM Author: Scarlet adventurous ape I like grate t-shirt, but hes anti-semitic like hardcore...not a good idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692136) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 3:11 PM Author: flesh mind-boggling tanning salon twinkling uncleanness He is? He's like the nicest, sweetest, least controversial person on this board. Along with rowan, shiveringjenny and the Boondocks he's one of the only people on this board that I'd trust with this job. Everyone else has their own agenda. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692152) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 3:19 PM Author: Scarlet adventurous ape I know, I was really surprised to find that out. Just look at any Israel/palestine threads on the college board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692222) |
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Date: March 17th, 2007 2:12 AM Author: Talented internet-worthy national yes, any uncritical supporter of israel needs to rethink his position. one hint you've gone too far: if you find yourself making excuses for their bombing orphanages. I feel bad about the holocaust, too, but justice would have been better served had they demanded part of saxony from germany. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7768331) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 6:08 PM Author: Comical dull national security agency hi grate! I disagree with this piece of hagiography. Besides TALC's allegations of anti-semitism, grate has engaged in his fair share of racist and sexist b.s. on the board, and has his own agenda as well. |
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Date: March 17th, 2007 2:03 AM Author: Talented internet-worthy national that's just the testosterone talking find a racist post I ever made but I might have teased some of the ladies |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 3:15 PM Author: Scarlet adventurous ape Can I get some support here? Unless yall want like a billion chicago posters to mad this place. We'll end up as the law& econ board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692187) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 3:37 PM Author: cracking temple I'll back you up on this -- you've done two meet ups and haven't outted anyone. That seems trustworthy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692352) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 4:04 PM Author: Scarlet adventurous ape Thank you, I appreciate the show of support. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692590) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 4:02 PM Author: cracking temple Did someone nominate XOXO Dungeon MasTTTer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692581) |
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Date: March 17th, 2007 2:16 AM Author: Razzle site seconded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7768343) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 4:08 PM Author: flesh mind-boggling tanning salon twinkling uncleanness IronMonkey (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692617) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 4:14 PM Author: odious famous landscape painting Me! I've been posting here from day 1 and I have no life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692672) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 4:22 PM Author: Chocolate Gay Wizard oooh oooh pick me! pick me! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7692738) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 5:14 PM Author: Fragrant rehab shitlib WhitePride (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7693150) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 5:32 PM Author: flickering 180 range Only over azn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7693272) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 5:50 PM Author: razzmatazz casino twigger/argent (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7693422) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 10:22 PM Author: Marvelous opaque haunted graveyard the mods will also collect information to out people they don't like. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7695209) |
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Date: March 1st, 2007 11:29 PM Author: Twinkling stirring generalized bond dilemma I'm surprised I haven't been nominated.
Thanks guys. |
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Date: March 2nd, 2007 12:56 AM Author: Heady frisky nowag legal warrant sup doods? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7696285) |
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Date: March 17th, 2007 2:05 AM Author: big-titted scourge upon the earth library I nominate Great Teacher Onizuka. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7768315) |
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Date: March 17th, 2007 2:13 AM Author: wild alpha Seconded! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#7768334) |
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Date: March 6th, 2008 12:44 AM Author: irradiated patrolman Booya! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#9436426) |
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Date: March 6th, 2008 12:49 AM Author: Charismatic juggernaut I think this is the silver bullet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=588130&forum_id=2#9436463) |