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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:10 PM Author: queensbridge benzo
Judge temporarily blocks Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship
A federal judge in Seattle has signed a temporary restraining order blocking President Donald Trump’s executive order on birthright citizenship.
U.S. District Judge John Coughenour on Thursday heard a request made by four Democratic-led states to issue a temporary restraining order against the executive order signed by Trump that purports to limit birthright citizenship to people who have at least one parent who is a United States citizen or permanent resident.
"I have been on the bench for over four decades," said Judge Coughenour, who was nominated to the bench by President Ronald Reagan in 1981. "I can't remember another case where the case presented is as clear as it is here. This is a blatantly unconstitutional order."
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"In your opinion, is this executive order constitutional?" he asked DOJ attorney Brett Shumate.
"Yes, we think it is," Shumate said, drawing the judge's rebuke.
"I have difficulty understanding how a member of the bar can state unequivocally that this is an unconstitutional order. It boggles my mind," Coughenour said. "Where were the lawyers when this decision was being made?"
Trump's executive order reinterpreting the 14th Amendment's guarantee of birthright citizenship -- long promised by Trump on the campaign trail -- is expected to spark a lengthy legal challenge that could define the president's sweeping immigration agenda.
Democratic attorneys general from 22 states and two cities have sued Trump over the executive order, and the president faces at least five separate lawsuits over the policy.
Thursday in Maryland, a federal judge held a pre-hearing conference by telephone in a challenge brought by two nonprofit groups and five pregnant undocumented women seeking to temporarily block the order from taking effect.
U.S. District Judge Deborah Boardman asked the DOJ if the child of parents who are subject to the executive order is born this afternoon in the United States, whether they would be a United States citizen.
"As I read the executive order, the answer is yes," responded DOJ attorney Brad Rosenberg, who suggested that enforcement of the order will not begin until Feb. 19, based on Section 2(b) of the executive order, which directs agencies to stop issuing citizenship documents to newborns born 30 days after the order.
The DOJ argued that "any sort of temporary or emergency relief in the immediate short term is unnecessary and inappropriate," saying that, based on their knowledge, agencies "haven't taken any of the steps yet regarding enforcement of the order."
But plaintiffs were not convinced by the DOJ that the executive order will not be applied immediately to newborns.
"We think the executive order is maybe less clear than Mr. Rosenberg has suggested," plaintiff's attorney Joseph Mead said.
DOJ attorneys subsequently acknowledged that they have not had an opportunity to consult with the agencies on whether they have taken any steps to enforce the order.
The judge scheduled a hearing on the matter for Feb. 5.
In Seattle, Judge Coughenour scheduled Thursday's in-person hearing in the case brought by the attorneys general of Arizona, Oregon, Washington and Illinois. In a federal complaint filed on Tuesday, the four attorneys general argued that Trump's policy would unlawfully strip at least 150,000 newborn children each year of citizenship entitled to them by federal law and the 14th Amendment.
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"The Plaintiff States will also suffer irreparable harm because thousands of children will be born within their borders but denied full participation and opportunity in American society," the lawsuit says. "Absent a temporary restraining order, children born in the Plaintiff States will soon be rendered undocumented, subject to removal or detention, and many stateless."
The lawsuit argues that enforcement of Trump's executive order would cause irreparable harm to the children born from undocumented parents by preventing them from enjoying their right to "full participation and opportunity in American society."
"They will lose their right to vote, serve on juries, and run for certain offices," the complaint says. "And they will be placed into lifelong positions of instability and insecurity as part of a new underclass in the United States."
Lawyers for the Department of Justice, now under new leadership, opposed the request for a temporary restraining order in a court filing Wednesday.
Taking effect next month, Trump's executive order seeks to reinterpret the 14th Amendment's guarantee of birthright citizenship by arguing a child born in the United States to an undocumented mother cannot receive citizenship unless his or her father is a citizen or green card holder.
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While most countries confer a child's citizenship based on their parents, the United States and more than two dozen countries, including Canada and Mexico, follow the principle of jus soli or "right of the soil."
Following the Civil War, the United States codified jus soli through the passage of the 14th Amendment, repudiating the Supreme Court's finding in Dred Scott v. Sanford that African Americans were ineligible for citizenship.
"President Trump and the federal government now seek to impose a modern version of Dred Scott. But nothing in the Constitution grants the President, federal agencies, or anyone else authority to impose conditions on the grant of citizenship to individuals born in the United States," the states' lawsuit argued.
The Supreme Court further enshrined birthright citizenship in 1898 when it found that the San Francisco-born son of Chinese immigrants was an American citizen despite the Chinese Exclusion Act restricting immigration from China and prohibiting Chinese Americans from becoming naturalized citizens.
By seeking to end birthright citizenship, Trump's executive order centers on the same phrase within the 14th Amendment -- "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" -- that the Supreme Court considered in 1898. Trump's executive order argues that text of the 14th Amendment excludes children born of parents who are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States, such as people who are unlawfully in the U.S.
While legal scholars have expressed skepticism about the legality of Trump's executive order, the lawsuit could set the stage for a lengthy legal battle that ends up before the Supreme Court.
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: .,...,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,..,..,:,..;,..,
you basically have committed to a life of being dependent on govt welfare to survive yet you want those resources to go to illegal aliens instead of you?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581913) |
Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:11 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
I thought Trump was king now. He can do what he wants and everyone has to listen including federal judges. That’s why the founders gave the executive unchecked power.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581878) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:17 PM Author: Greetings
there's actually no such thing as an anchor baby, it's a myth peddled by liars you shouldn't trust, because if they'll lie about that, they'll lie about a great many things
you don't get to stay in the US bc your kid is a US citizen, let alone receive legal status
parents remain subject to deportation, and the kid's legal status has no legal effect on that of the parents
sure you might stay illegally, but you are subject to deportation at any time
one of my friends from colombia came here to have her baby, kid is a US citizen, mom had to hie back to colombia and that's where she lives with the kid
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581901) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:18 PM
Author: .,...,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,..,..,:,..;,..,
retire again you retarded gook
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581906) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:24 PM Author: sealclubber
"In a federal complaint filed on Tuesday, the four attorneys general argued that Trump's policy would unlawfully strip at least 150,000 newborn children each year of citizenship entitled to them by federal law and the 14th Amendment."
oh sure, not happening at all. no such thing.
"Approximately 88,000 legal-resident parents of US citizen children were deported in the 2000s, most for minor criminal convictions.[40]"
oh shit. 150,000 born each year, but a whopping 88,000 deported in the entire decade of 2000. your columbian friend was a criminal or does not exist.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581945) |
Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,..,
How will Trump describe this four decade+ Reagan appointee?
Seattle Judge?
Totally unqualified?
Radical left?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581885) |
Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:13 PM Author: cannon
“They will lose their right to vote, serve on juries, and run for certain offices," the complaint says.”
Funny they never mention how they will lose their right to gibs
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581888) |
Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
Don’t worry, Trumpmos. Trump will tweet something mean about the judge which tbh is just as good as ending birthright citizenship, so chalk up another one in the win column for you guys
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581946) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
So the US can’t arrest illegals in the country since they’re not subject to US jurisdiction?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581984) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
it cannot be disputed that Native Americans, children of diplomats, and children of foreign soldiers did not and still do not receive BRC under that clause. whether or not DJT has unilateral power is one question but the more reasoned view, imo, is that Congress can regulate on the issue of children born to foreign citizens illegally in the US.
btw, lefty prof from YLS Peter Schuck thinks so too.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581996) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
It’s going to be an 8-1 decision against Trump
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582012) |
Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
https://x.com/skylerforny/status/1882500505924141326?s=46
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582023) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
It conflicts with existing SCOTUS precedent. You don’t even have to get to the constitutional text to decide this
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582061) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,
No it doesn't
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582080) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:01 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)
To be fair,
Wow sounds like this will ultimately need to go to SCOTUS for a final decision. Absolutely bonkers, who could have ever predicted that!!!!
lol
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582624) |
Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,
It's a good move
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:02 PM Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)
To be fair,
180, let's fast track this to SCOTUS ASAP. It was always headed there anyway and it was always going to be stayed in the interim, so the sooner Trump secures the only final call that actually matters, the better.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582630) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 6:10 PM Author: sealclubber
Executive Order—Protecting the American People Against Invasion
January 20, 2025
Many of these aliens unlawfully within the United States present significant threats to national security and public safety, committing vile and heinous acts against innocent Americans. Others are engaged in hostile activities, including espionage, economic espionage, and preparations for terror-related activities. Many have abused the generosity of the American people, and their presence in the United States has cost taxpayers billions of dollars at the Federal, State, and local levels.
from above "it cannot be disputed that Native Americans, children of diplomats, and children of foreign soldiers did not and still do not receive BRC under that clause. whether or not DJT has unilateral power is one question but the more reasoned view, imo, is that Congress can regulate on the issue of children born to foreign citizens illegally in the US."
gee, i wonder if illegals being declared enemies can make them subject to treatment like "foreign soldiers"?
the obvious answer is maybe
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582890)
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
It’s headed to the court of appeals next. THOSE are the people they plan to harass
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583058) |
Date: January 23rd, 2025 7:14 PM Author: the place where there is no darkness
I interviewed for a clerkship with him.
He's a blowhard, obviously.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583092) |
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,..,
(MAF Seattle U grad)
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 9:12 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,
Not sure why people are surprised about this?
This has been the law of the land for decades? The issue is that it was decided randomly in a footnote to another case and never actually taken up by the supreme court.
Trump's trying to get this to the Supreme Court to get a ruling on it...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583511)
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Date: January 23rd, 2025 11:55 PM Author: sealclubber
not surprised, but the
'most unconstitutional thing i've ever seen!!!"
histrionics is really fucking stupid
and really fucking a lib thing
i wonder what this cocksucker thought about dobbs?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583927) |
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