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Judge calls Trump’s immigration EO “blatantly unconstitutional”

Judge temporarily blocks Trump's executive order on birthrig...
queensbridge benzo
  01/23/25
you basically have committed to a life of being dependent on...
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  01/23/25
ICE should deport the five pregnant illegals who brought the...
Drunkard
  01/23/25
"The [your answer goes here] has power to establish a u...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
Oh wow this stupid shit sure makes your life better you path...
brown tranny rapping about climate change
  01/23/25
Some people have empathy for people who aren't like them.
Heart of a woman, strength of a man.
  01/23/25
Trump's DOJ. smell it
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
maybe not, but watching you seethe makes me think it makes y...
queensbridge benzo
  01/23/25
I thought Trump was king now. He can do what he wants and ev...
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  01/23/25
Actually most people don't support anchor babies but thanks ...
brown tranny rapping about climate change
  01/23/25
there's actually no such thing as an anchor baby, it's a myt...
Greetings
  01/23/25
retire again you retarded gook
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  01/23/25
sorry i'm aryan as fuck bro, german and danish with a splash...
Greetings
  01/23/25
when you are inevitably murdered for being jewish I'm sure t...
slam dunk
  01/23/25
Lmao
brown tranny rapping about climate change
  01/23/25
"In a federal complaint filed on Tuesday, the four atto...
sealclubber
  01/23/25
Where did he say his friend was deported? People, at least ...
Drunkard
  01/23/25
what does "one of my friends from colombia came here to...
sealclubber
  01/23/25
Anchor babies have been used countless times to stay deporta...
,,..;;..,,,::;;..,:;;::..:;:;:;,:
  01/23/25
libs lie
sealclubber
  01/23/25
Right, but the kid moves to the US at 18 and then brings the...
Drunkard
  01/23/25
This is so fucking stupid that I'm offended that I actually ...
Trump has to go back
  01/23/25
That's a lie. Most people OPPOSE stripping children of B...
Trump has to go back
  01/23/25
How will Trump describe this four decade+ Reagan appointee? ...
.,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,..,
  01/23/25
Seattle Judge is perfect. Speaks for itself.
No Paye No Gain
  01/23/25
What are you gonna do about it?
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
"Radical Liberal and very Dumb!"
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  01/23/25
“They will lose their right to vote, serve on juries, ...
cannon
  01/23/25
...
CIA Computer
  01/23/25
And to have their ballot harvested for dems
state your IQ before I engage you further
  01/23/25
John Coughenour Mellencamp
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  01/23/25
seattle judge
spritexero
  01/23/25
lmao at all the conturds screeching b/c Trump doesn't get to...
\"''"\'"\'\"\''"\'
  01/23/25
Who's screeching? It was obvious this was going to end up in...
No Paye No Gain
  01/23/25
Don’t worry, Trumpmos. Trump will tweet something mean...
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  01/23/25
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Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  01/23/25
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Trump has to go back
  01/23/25
"I have been on the bench for over four decades," ...
sealclubber
  01/23/25
I dunno, sealclubber tp, what does 'rational basis' mean?
Heart of a woman, strength of a man.
  01/23/25
any bullshit reason will suffice to justify the interpretati...
sealclubber
  01/23/25
Subject to the executive, judicial, and legislative power of...
Heart of a woman, strength of a man.
  01/23/25
so everyone without diplomatic immunity? i doubt that's what...
sealclubber
  01/23/25
sealclubber scrambling to uncover the original intent of the...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
...
Heart of a woman, strength of a man.
  01/23/25
are you really going to question a SCHOLAR OF JURISDPRUDENCE...
AZNgirl POTUS Removing Birth Right for AZNmen
  01/23/25
So the US can’t arrest illegals in the country since t...
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  01/23/25
Are you sure you want to go down this line of reasoning? ...
Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle
  01/23/25
it cannot be disputed that Native Americans, children of dip...
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  01/23/25
Peter Cucks
No Paye No Gain
  01/23/25
Trump should have hired you to represent the Government
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
NSAM predicted none of this
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
Who could have ever guessed that a Trump EO on birthright ci...
My boyfriend's penis is small and on the soft side
  01/23/25
Reagan appointee
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
Meaningless. The new dividing line he's referring to between...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  01/23/25
So. . .a fucking retard?
Trump has to go back
  01/23/25
It was always going to get decided at SCOTUS level anyway. M...
donald j trump
  01/23/25
It’s going to be an 8-1 decision against Trump
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  01/23/25
9-0
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
It's going to be 7-3 in favor of Trump and SOCTUS will endor...
snk neo geo
  01/23/25
This litigation has nothing to do with the 14th amendment
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
Idiot shtick? https://agportal-s3bucket.s3.us-west-2.amazon...
snk neo geo
  01/23/25
I don't care what one party said. are you even a lawyer? rhe...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
Maybe you're just an actual idiot. Here's a little hint, ...
snk neo geo
  01/23/25
wow you can make semantic arguments
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
https://x.com/skylerforny/status/1882500505924141326?s=46
,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
  01/23/25
MASE outed as a DOJ attorney
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
just lmao that libs are suddenly textualists as it applies t...
Paralegal Mohammad
  01/23/25
That's not even the question presented here. The judge didn'...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
It conflicts with existing SCOTUS precedent. You don’t...
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  01/23/25
No it doesn't
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It pretty much conflicts with McCullogh v Maryland and Marb...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
To be fair, Wow sounds like this will ultimately need to ...
To be fair
  01/23/25
Don’t spew legal concepts you saw on the internet unle...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  01/23/25
It's a good move
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queensbridge benzo
  01/23/25
To be fair, 180, let's fast track this to SCOTUS ASAP. It...
To be fair
  01/23/25
Evan defend this shit
I'm gay.
  01/23/25
The seattle judge seems pretty certain. Maybe Trump should j...
Metal Up Your Ass
  01/23/25
Executive Order—Protecting the American People Against...
sealclubber
  01/23/25
legal writing
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
Trumpmos, you should riot and break into this courthouse. W...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  01/23/25
It’s headed to the court of appeals next. THOSE are th...
,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
  01/23/25
"If you don't do what our leader says, we'll KILL you!&...
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  01/23/25
I interviewed for a clerkship with him. He's a blowhard, ...
the place where there is no darkness
  01/23/25
(guy who got ding-fagged and is still MAF)
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  01/23/25
not like you
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
(MAF Seattle U grad)
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  01/23/25
Not sure why people are surprised about this? This has be...
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  01/23/25
Any other nonlawyers want to chime in?
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25
This is the place for it
Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband
  01/23/25
not surprised, but the 'most unconstitutional thing i've e...
sealclubber
  01/23/25
Every dumbfuck dipshit scratching their head ITT never heard...
https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK
  01/23/25


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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:10 PM
Author: queensbridge benzo

Judge temporarily blocks Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship

A federal judge in Seattle has signed a temporary restraining order blocking President Donald Trump’s executive order on birthright citizenship.

U.S. District Judge John Coughenour on Thursday heard a request made by four Democratic-led states to issue a temporary restraining order against the executive order signed by Trump that purports to limit birthright citizenship to people who have at least one parent who is a United States citizen or permanent resident.

"I have been on the bench for over four decades," said Judge Coughenour, who was nominated to the bench by President Ronald Reagan in 1981. "I can't remember another case where the case presented is as clear as it is here. This is a blatantly unconstitutional order."

MORE: 22 states challenge Trump's executive order cutting birthright citizenship

"In your opinion, is this executive order constitutional?" he asked DOJ attorney Brett Shumate.

"Yes, we think it is," Shumate said, drawing the judge's rebuke.

"I have difficulty understanding how a member of the bar can state unequivocally that this is an unconstitutional order. It boggles my mind," Coughenour said. "Where were the lawyers when this decision was being made?"

Trump's executive order reinterpreting the 14th Amendment's guarantee of birthright citizenship -- long promised by Trump on the campaign trail -- is expected to spark a lengthy legal challenge that could define the president's sweeping immigration agenda.

Democratic attorneys general from 22 states and two cities have sued Trump over the executive order, and the president faces at least five separate lawsuits over the policy.

Thursday in Maryland, a federal judge held a pre-hearing conference by telephone in a challenge brought by two nonprofit groups and five pregnant undocumented women seeking to temporarily block the order from taking effect.

U.S. District Judge Deborah Boardman asked the DOJ if the child of parents who are subject to the executive order is born this afternoon in the United States, whether they would be a United States citizen.

"As I read the executive order, the answer is yes," responded DOJ attorney Brad Rosenberg, who suggested that enforcement of the order will not begin until Feb. 19, based on Section 2(b) of the executive order, which directs agencies to stop issuing citizenship documents to newborns born 30 days after the order.

The DOJ argued that "any sort of temporary or emergency relief in the immediate short term is unnecessary and inappropriate," saying that, based on their knowledge, agencies "haven't taken any of the steps yet regarding enforcement of the order."

But plaintiffs were not convinced by the DOJ that the executive order will not be applied immediately to newborns.

"We think the executive order is maybe less clear than Mr. Rosenberg has suggested," plaintiff's attorney Joseph Mead said.

DOJ attorneys subsequently acknowledged that they have not had an opportunity to consult with the agencies on whether they have taken any steps to enforce the order.

The judge scheduled a hearing on the matter for Feb. 5.

In Seattle, Judge Coughenour scheduled Thursday's in-person hearing in the case brought by the attorneys general of Arizona, Oregon, Washington and Illinois. In a federal complaint filed on Tuesday, the four attorneys general argued that Trump's policy would unlawfully strip at least 150,000 newborn children each year of citizenship entitled to them by federal law and the 14th Amendment.

MORE: Trump's record-breaking Day 1 executive actions prompt legal challenges

"The Plaintiff States will also suffer irreparable harm because thousands of children will be born within their borders but denied full participation and opportunity in American society," the lawsuit says. "Absent a temporary restraining order, children born in the Plaintiff States will soon be rendered undocumented, subject to removal or detention, and many stateless."

The lawsuit argues that enforcement of Trump's executive order would cause irreparable harm to the children born from undocumented parents by preventing them from enjoying their right to "full participation and opportunity in American society."

"They will lose their right to vote, serve on juries, and run for certain offices," the complaint says. "And they will be placed into lifelong positions of instability and insecurity as part of a new underclass in the United States."

Lawyers for the Department of Justice, now under new leadership, opposed the request for a temporary restraining order in a court filing Wednesday.

Taking effect next month, Trump's executive order seeks to reinterpret the 14th Amendment's guarantee of birthright citizenship by arguing a child born in the United States to an undocumented mother cannot receive citizenship unless his or her father is a citizen or green card holder.

MORE: With the stroke of a pen, Trump tries to remake America: ANALYSIS

While most countries confer a child's citizenship based on their parents, the United States and more than two dozen countries, including Canada and Mexico, follow the principle of jus soli or "right of the soil."

Following the Civil War, the United States codified jus soli through the passage of the 14th Amendment, repudiating the Supreme Court's finding in Dred Scott v. Sanford that African Americans were ineligible for citizenship.

"President Trump and the federal government now seek to impose a modern version of Dred Scott. But nothing in the Constitution grants the President, federal agencies, or anyone else authority to impose conditions on the grant of citizenship to individuals born in the United States," the states' lawsuit argued.

The Supreme Court further enshrined birthright citizenship in 1898 when it found that the San Francisco-born son of Chinese immigrants was an American citizen despite the Chinese Exclusion Act restricting immigration from China and prohibiting Chinese Americans from becoming naturalized citizens.

By seeking to end birthright citizenship, Trump's executive order centers on the same phrase within the 14th Amendment -- "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" -- that the Supreme Court considered in 1898. Trump's executive order argues that text of the 14th Amendment excludes children born of parents who are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States, such as people who are unlawfully in the U.S.

While legal scholars have expressed skepticism about the legality of Trump's executive order, the lawsuit could set the stage for a lengthy legal battle that ends up before the Supreme Court.

Watch Now

ABC News’ Aaron Katersky and Armando Garcia, and ABC News legal contributor Kim Wehle discuss the legal hurdles stemming from President Donald Trump’s executive order.

Catch up on the developing stories making headlines.

24/7 coverage of breaking news and live events

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581872)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: .,...,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,..,..,:,..;,..,


you basically have committed to a life of being dependent on govt welfare to survive yet you want those resources to go to illegal aliens instead of you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581913)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:29 PM
Author: Drunkard

ICE should deport the five pregnant illegals who brought the case before they give birth. It would divest them of standing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581963)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:11 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


"The [your answer goes here] has power to establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583679)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:11 PM
Author: brown tranny rapping about climate change

Oh wow this stupid shit sure makes your life better you pathetic fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581876)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: Heart of a woman, strength of a man.

Some people have empathy for people who aren't like them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581947)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Trump's DOJ. smell it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582054)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 4:01 PM
Author: queensbridge benzo

maybe not, but watching you seethe makes me think it makes your life worse, which I’ll count as a win

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582399)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:11 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


I thought Trump was king now. He can do what he wants and everyone has to listen including federal judges. That’s why the founders gave the executive unchecked power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581878)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:12 PM
Author: brown tranny rapping about climate change

Actually most people don't support anchor babies but thanks for your retarded "input"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581880)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:17 PM
Author: Greetings

there's actually no such thing as an anchor baby, it's a myth peddled by liars you shouldn't trust, because if they'll lie about that, they'll lie about a great many things

you don't get to stay in the US bc your kid is a US citizen, let alone receive legal status

parents remain subject to deportation, and the kid's legal status has no legal effect on that of the parents

sure you might stay illegally, but you are subject to deportation at any time

one of my friends from colombia came here to have her baby, kid is a US citizen, mom had to hie back to colombia and that's where she lives with the kid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581901)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:18 PM
Author: .,...,.,.;,.,,,:,.,.,::,..,..,:,..;,..,


retire again you retarded gook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581906)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: Greetings

sorry i'm aryan as fuck bro, german and danish with a splash of swiss from the german part

keep doing it tho, i've been called a gook and a jewish latino, too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581908)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: slam dunk

when you are inevitably murdered for being jewish I'm sure the guy doing it will have some added enjoyment knowing youre also a low iq retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581956)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:19 PM
Author: brown tranny rapping about climate change

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581909)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: sealclubber

"In a federal complaint filed on Tuesday, the four attorneys general argued that Trump's policy would unlawfully strip at least 150,000 newborn children each year of citizenship entitled to them by federal law and the 14th Amendment."

oh sure, not happening at all. no such thing.

"Approximately 88,000 legal-resident parents of US citizen children were deported in the 2000s, most for minor criminal convictions.[40]"

oh shit. 150,000 born each year, but a whopping 88,000 deported in the entire decade of 2000. your columbian friend was a criminal or does not exist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581945)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: Drunkard

Where did he say his friend was deported? People, at least some of them, come to the US to have a kid so the kid has citizenship for later in life. This is especially popular with rich Chinese, Koreans, Indians etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581981)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: sealclubber

what does "one of my friends from colombia came here to have her baby, kid is a US citizen, mom had to hie back to colombia and that's where she lives with the kid" mean?

had to hie? i took that to mean she could not stay. perhaps anchor baby requires the parent to apply to stay and his friend chose not to?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582027)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:27 PM
Author: ,,..;;..,,,::;;..,:;;::..:;:;:;,:


Anchor babies have been used countless times to stay deportations. You’re either stupid or lying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581952)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: sealclubber

libs lie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582030)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: Drunkard

Right, but the kid moves to the US at 18 and then brings the parents in. I have a friend who did this. Born here as an anchor baby, came back for high school and then used the anchor to bring in family.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581970)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:00 PM
Author: Trump has to go back

This is so fucking stupid that I'm offended that I actually wasted the brain cells to read it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583638)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 9:59 PM
Author: Trump has to go back

That's a lie.

Most people OPPOSE stripping children of BRC, even if they are children of illegals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583633)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,..,


How will Trump describe this four decade+ Reagan appointee?

Seattle Judge?

Totally unqualified?

Radical left?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581885)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:35 PM
Author: No Paye No Gain

Seattle Judge is perfect. Speaks for itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581995)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


What are you gonna do about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582044)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 6:56 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

"Radical Liberal and very Dumb!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583030)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: cannon

“They will lose their right to vote, serve on juries, and run for certain offices," the complaint says.”

Funny they never mention how they will lose their right to gibs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581888)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: CIA Computer



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581959)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 11:54 PM
Author: state your IQ before I engage you further

And to have their ballot harvested for dems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583925)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: ,,..;;..,,,::;;..,:;;::..:;:;:;,:


John Coughenour Mellencamp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581917)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:20 PM
Author: spritexero

seattle judge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581919)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:24 PM
Author: \"''"\'"\'\"\''"\'

lmao at all the conturds screeching b/c Trump doesn't get to trample over the constitution

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581937)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: No Paye No Gain

Who's screeching? It was obvious this was going to end up in the courts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581998)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:25 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


Don’t worry, Trumpmos. Trump will tweet something mean about the judge which tbh is just as good as ending birthright citizenship, so chalk up another one in the win column for you guys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581946)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 6:57 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583031)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:00 PM
Author: Trump has to go back



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583639)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:26 PM
Author: sealclubber

"I have been on the bench for over four decades," said Judge Coughenour, who was nominated to the bench by President Ronald Reagan in 1981. "I can't remember another case where the case presented is as clear as it is here. This is a blatantly unconstitutional order."

lying fuck. subject to the jurisdiction thereof must mean something. what does it mean?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581949)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:28 PM
Author: Heart of a woman, strength of a man.

I dunno, sealclubber tp, what does 'rational basis' mean?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581955)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:30 PM
Author: sealclubber

any bullshit reason will suffice to justify the interpretation no matter how specious

back to my question

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581966)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:34 PM
Author: Heart of a woman, strength of a man.

Subject to the executive, judicial, and legislative power of the United States.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581989)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: sealclubber

so everyone without diplomatic immunity? i doubt that's what the original intent was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582040)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:49 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


sealclubber scrambling to uncover the original intent of the 14th amendment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582073)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:56 PM
Author: Heart of a woman, strength of a man.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582103)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:31 PM
Author: AZNgirl POTUS Removing Birth Right for AZNmen

are you really going to question a SCHOLAR OF JURISDPRUDENCE in the TREATISE of JUSTICE that he has given us?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581973)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


So the US can’t arrest illegals in the country since they’re not subject to US jurisdiction?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581984)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 6:08 PM
Author: Taylor Swift is not a hobby she is a lifestyle (πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡΅πŸ‡±)

Are you sure you want to go down this line of reasoning?

Let's presume that the US can't arrest & prosecute illegals in the country because they're not subject to US jurisdiction. No problem, that's what rendition is for. We have a big, beautiful facility in Cuba for people falling under that category.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582878)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:36 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


it cannot be disputed that Native Americans, children of diplomats, and children of foreign soldiers did not and still do not receive BRC under that clause. whether or not DJT has unilateral power is one question but the more reasoned view, imo, is that Congress can regulate on the issue of children born to foreign citizens illegally in the US.

btw, lefty prof from YLS Peter Schuck thinks so too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581996)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: No Paye No Gain

Peter Cucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582003)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Trump should have hired you to represent the Government

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582066)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:32 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


NSAM predicted none of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48581980)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 6:51 PM
Author: My boyfriend's penis is small and on the soft side (If I May, tp)

Who could have ever guessed that a Trump EO on birthright citizenship would be blocked by a west coast liberal judge? That was way outta left field!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583017)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 7:11 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Reagan appointee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583081)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 7:12 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Meaningless. The new dividing line he's referring to between "liberal" and "conservative" is whether one agrees with the following statement: "The 2020 election was stole."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583087)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:02 PM
Author: Trump has to go back

So. . .a fucking retard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583647)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:37 PM
Author: donald j trump

It was always going to get decided at SCOTUS level anyway. Maybe Roberts will choke on a soup bone before it happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582001)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:40 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


It’s going to be an 8-1 decision against Trump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582012)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:42 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


9-0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582020)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: snk neo geo

It's going to be 7-3 in favor of Trump and SOCTUS will endorse his interpretation of "subject to the jurisdiction thereof". Either Congress will retroactively naturalize everyone born in the United States (other than children of diplomats, occupying troops, etc.) prior to a particular date, or things are going to get kooky when a whole bunch of people are unable to prove their citizenship. Children of recent legal immigrants will have an advantage, since they can point to specific paperwork granting their parents lawful permanently residency or citizenship. People with no recent immigrant ancestry will be scrambling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582065)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:52 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


This litigation has nothing to do with the 14th amendment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582092)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 3:00 PM
Author: snk neo geo

Idiot shtick? https://agportal-s3bucket.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/10_TROMot.pdf?VersionId=eWXZfvZtw60HmNTPOMluCKS_Li3n1Tu8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582121)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:09 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


I don't care what one party said. are you even a lawyer? rhetorical question.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582661)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:28 PM
Author: snk neo geo

Maybe you're just an actual idiot.

Here's a little hint, champ, where a party seeks relief based on an executive order being unconstitutional under the 14th amendment, the litigation has something to do with the 14th amendment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582713)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:32 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


wow you can make semantic arguments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582720)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:43 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


https://x.com/skylerforny/status/1882500505924141326?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582023)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:44 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


MASE outed as a DOJ attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582032)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:45 PM
Author: Paralegal Mohammad

just lmao that libs are suddenly textualists as it applies to this issue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582037)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:46 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


That's not even the question presented here. The judge didn't rule on whether the 14th amendment establishes birthright citizenship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582048)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:48 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


It conflicts with existing SCOTUS precedent. You don’t even have to get to the constitutional text to decide this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582061)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:50 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,


No it doesn't

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582080)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


It pretty much conflicts with McCullogh v Maryland and Marbury v Madison

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582093)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:01 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

Wow sounds like this will ultimately need to go to SCOTUS for a final decision. Absolutely bonkers, who could have ever predicted that!!!!

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582624)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 8:53 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Don’t spew legal concepts you saw on the internet unless you know what they mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583449)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 2:51 PM
Author: ..,,....,,.,..,,..,,...,...,,....,...,


It's a good move

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582084)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: queensbridge benzo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582522)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:02 PM
Author: To be fair (Semi-Retarded)

To be fair,

180, let's fast track this to SCOTUS ASAP. It was always headed there anyway and it was always going to be stayed in the interim, so the sooner Trump secures the only final call that actually matters, the better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582630)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: I'm gay.

Evan defend this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582632)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 5:15 PM
Author: Metal Up Your Ass

The seattle judge seems pretty certain. Maybe Trump should just take the L on this one?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582676)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 6:10 PM
Author: sealclubber

Executive Order—Protecting the American People Against Invasion

January 20, 2025

Many of these aliens unlawfully within the United States present significant threats to national security and public safety, committing vile and heinous acts against innocent Americans. Others are engaged in hostile activities, including espionage, economic espionage, and preparations for terror-related activities. Many have abused the generosity of the American people, and their presence in the United States has cost taxpayers billions of dollars at the Federal, State, and local levels.

from above "it cannot be disputed that Native Americans, children of diplomats, and children of foreign soldiers did not and still do not receive BRC under that clause. whether or not DJT has unilateral power is one question but the more reasoned view, imo, is that Congress can regulate on the issue of children born to foreign citizens illegally in the US."

gee, i wonder if illegals being declared enemies can make them subject to treatment like "foreign soldiers"?

the obvious answer is maybe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48582890)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


legal writing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583023)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 6:56 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

Trumpmos, you should riot and break into this courthouse. We can't let this lib "judge" be mean to Trump without imposing consequences!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583027)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 7:05 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


It’s headed to the court of appeals next. THOSE are the people they plan to harass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583058)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 7:07 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

"If you don't do what our leader says, we'll KILL you!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583067)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 7:14 PM
Author: the place where there is no darkness

I interviewed for a clerkship with him.

He's a blowhard, obviously.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583092)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 7:15 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

(guy who got ding-fagged and is still MAF)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583094)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


not like you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583096)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,..,


(MAF Seattle U grad)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583435)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 9:12 PM
Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,,


Not sure why people are surprised about this?

This has been the law of the land for decades? The issue is that it was decided randomly in a footnote to another case and never actually taken up by the supreme court.

Trump's trying to get this to the Supreme Court to get a ruling on it...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583511)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:04 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Any other nonlawyers want to chime in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583654)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 11:47 PM
Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband

This is the place for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583917)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 11:55 PM
Author: sealclubber

not surprised, but the

'most unconstitutional thing i've ever seen!!!"

histrionics is really fucking stupid

and really fucking a lib thing

i wonder what this cocksucker thought about dobbs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583927)



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Date: January 23rd, 2025 10:05 PM
Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK


Every dumbfuck dipshit scratching their head ITT never heard of plenary power goddamn. You are all pure shit as lawyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5668693&forum_id=2#48583660)