Double edged sword imo- with Trump almost certain to win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47788266)

i'm still pissed about the first amendment decision though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47788278)

this isn't a legal issue, it's a political issue. we shouldn't allow our institutions and governments to be so tightly aligned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47788320)

In practice 99.99% of the time companies just do whatever the feds ask. The remaining 0.01% is only with F500 companies who have serious lobbying power, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47789595)

wow the judicial and legislative branches will have to "get serious" ? that IS terrible news

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47788377)

not a govmo but id think agencies have limited resources like everyone else, so their risk calculation has to account for both emboldened deep pockets due to material change in chances of success for even non-marquee SCOTUS-worthy actions (depending on venue) and resulting deterrent effect of potential to lock up agency resources in litigation while facing materially worse chances of success

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47788817)

does this case overturn Skidmore? I assume not. if the court things the agency got it right, they can still agree with the agency on skidmore grounds. so what is the big deal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47788845)

agree with the guy above that the agencies have to pull back here too because they nor DOJ have unlimited resources to fight all these appeals. they will probably shy away from taking actions based on any statute that isn't crystal clear. which sounds great, but we all know how common ambiguous laws are. the agencies are going to tell the white house we can't do x without clear authorization, the white house will try and get it passed, and congress will be completely fucking useless as always and nothing will get done. which is fine i guess if you don't like safe air travel, food and drugs, waste disposal, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47789055)

No one wants unsafe air travel or e coli outbreaks. It's not about that. No one is saying the executive branch has no authority to regulate anything. That would be absurd. We just want some form of recourse if the EPA says no one can build houses here because some obscure butterfly species is threatened and therefore you must never access affordable property and live in a dilapidated hovel forever goy that you have some amount of recourse now. If you don't see why this is a good thing you're insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47789236)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47789647)

What's disturbing about LTM is he fancies himself one of the ruling elites in an oppressive regime. He would get off on being a dictator. Because he feels in his bones he knows better than other people.

The whole point of America is to not have LTM types bossing everybody around. While some people opt into the mind prison most people want to be left alone. This is a win for government leaving people alone. Make America Great Again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47789197)

Hopefully there are many more lib meltdowns to come. This is just the beginning of their delicious tears.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47789490)

one of the biggest of the last 25 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47788753)

This is going to lead to a lot of Hawaii judges issuing conflicting opinions about what the law really "means." Maybe that's nbd. We live with circuit splits, etc. in lots of other areas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47788880)

i was planning on doing this another 10 years, but that might be 5 at this point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47788896)

the big agencies will also have problems with different interpretations in different circuits. if they significantly modify their actions based on which circuit they're in, i think there's a good argument that they're being arbitrary and capricious. so they're going to have to bend to the most strict circuit unless SCOTUS wants to spend all of its time on admin law cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47789122)

That's completely different from an sec fraud enforcement which is clearly derived from a pre existing common law crime.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47789482)

within its statutory authority, as the APA requires. Careful

attention to the judgment of the Executive Branch may help

inform that inquiry. And when a particular statute delegates authority to an agency consistent with constitutional

limits, courts must respect the delegation, while ensuring

that the agency acts within it. But courts need not and under the APA may not defer to an agency interpretation of

the law simply because a statute is ambiguous.

Because the D. C. and First Circuits relied on Chevron in

deciding whether to uphold the Rule, their judgments are

vacated, and the cases are remanded for further proceedings consistent with this opinion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47789272)

(this is the characteristically gay response btw)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47789515)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47790053)

https://www.poerkan.com/product/african-superman-sex-pill/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47791188)

Needless to say, that is retarded. If the deep state doesn't have a law to point to, it's not the federal judiciary's responsibility to figure it out.

Congress can pass laws or the states can take care of it. You have armed FDA agents rolling up on Amish farmers selling raw milk. It's long overdue to kill the deep state and let individual states regulate themselves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47791626)

Its the solution to many of our problems. Let the states be laboratories of democracy again. Those with the most compelling system will attract the best talent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5547021&forum_id=2#47791715)