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What's the most influential FPS of all time?
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:44 AM Author: curious legend Half Life? Wolfenstein? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419169) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:04 PM Author: hideous point I think Half Life has to take the cake. It basically invented campaign mode as we know it today, with real voiceover acting and non-linear maps. It's hard to think of a game as revolutionary since HL came out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421510) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:51 PM Author: Sinister deer antler locus Hexen went non-linear 3 years before Half Life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421801) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:55 PM Author: hideous point wtf is a hexen? I was a voracious gamer back in the 90s and have never heard of this franchise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421831) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:56 PM Author: pale principal's office I played it. I don't recall it being obscure. It was on the shelves of regular retailers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421840) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:51 PM Author: Sinister deer antler locus not obscure at all - it was the sequel to Heretic and there was also a Hexen II
Hexen was basically a fantasy version of the doom engine where you played either a fighter (melee tank), a mage (ranged low hp), or a cleric (balanced) |
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Date: June 16th, 2020 12:33 AM Author: curious legend It came free with my graphics card so I assumed it was shit and never played it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40426125) |
Date: June 15th, 2020 2:44 AM Author: pale principal's office Doom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419171) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:38 AM Author: fluffy bawdyhouse skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419492) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:47 AM Author: Misanthropic really tough guy quadroon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419522) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:55 AM Author: Grizzly cruel-hearted cumskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419763) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: talking comical theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421890) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:47 AM Author: puce generalized bond old irish cottage Wolfenstein 3D (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419174) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:53 AM Author: sepia hell athletic conference cr. nothing else comes close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419190) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:51 PM Author: pale principal's office It was important but too rudimentary. I stand by Doom as the answer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421396) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:24 AM Author: Lake brethren Going to listen to this all day while I work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EZHV3BiVgU&list=PL-vD6rIjXrcKBVlTBnAcbSc4vme0LLDF3 |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:48 PM Author: Maroon Exhilarant Stag Film Filthpig contra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEYxYcLi1lc |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:50 AM Author: high-end crackhouse counter strike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419184) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:43 AM Author: laughsome senate boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419507) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:41 AM Author: hideous point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419696) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:39 AM Author: Misanthropic really tough guy quadroon DOOM, obviously. How is this a question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419498) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:48 AM Author: irradiated stain station CR. Doom invented the fps genre. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419530) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 8:57 AM Author: Maroon Exhilarant Stag Film Filthpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419547) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:19 AM Author: Coral gaping associate Such that for several years such games were called "doom clones." It took years for the term "fps" to overtake it. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Doom_clone_vs_first_person_shooter.png (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419621) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:40 AM Author: flatulent dilemma It didn't though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419693) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:46 AM Author: red erotic kitchen mad-dog skullcap Doom definitely did not invent the genre but it was so much better than anything that came before it that it seems that way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419716) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:54 AM Author: adventurous lay mediation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419753) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:50 PM Author: Mauve goyim ape Most FPS games don't play at all like Doom, though. I think you could defensibly argue that Halo, or COD4, or even Battlefield are more influential over what the norms are today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421390) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:51 PM Author: pale principal's office What do you mean by "play like"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421406) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:02 PM Author: Mauve goyim ape -Doom's multiplayer is 4-player deathmatch; the trend in modern shooters is towards very large games with lots of players.
-Doom has non-linear levels with secret doors and stuff; modern single-player FPS tends to be very linear.
-In Doom your enemies are demons from Hell, instead of the military or sci-fi themes that dominate most FPS games (yeah, Doom is "sci-fi," but not in the way something like Halo is).
-Doom has depleting health that recovers with med-kits, instead of automatically restoring health which has been super-common ever since Halo.
Basically, Doom was the first popular FPS, but beyond "being a first person shooter" most of its specific traits aren't prominent in modern shooter games. And since it didn't create the genre either (Wolfenstein did), I feel you could easily make the case that later games are more influential. |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:16 PM Author: concupiscible black abode police squad stfu millennial (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421609) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:38 PM Author: up-to-no-good hairless locale juggernaut Lol dork (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40425031) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:59 PM Author: high-end crackhouse CS came out in 1999. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421474) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:00 PM Author: hideous point There's a strong argument to be made for Halo, with the recovering health mechanic being in basically every game now. Before it was always a fixed pool with some medkits or recovery mechanics in various parts of the level.
I think the "sit in cover and autoheal" mechanic is seriously shit, but it is now everywhere because of Halo. |
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Date: August 27th, 2020 5:23 PM Author: curious legend Half Life is cr here. It introduced all kinds of maneuvering that just didn't exist in earlier games. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40823918) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: talking comical theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421892) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:16 AM Author: Walnut Greedy Giraffe COD or Halo, easily. The sheer scale has to dwarf other considerations. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419612) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:26 AM Author: fragrant disrespectful corner DOOM
lol at the n00bs itt |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:39 AM Author: sienna son of senegal WOLF3d did that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419690) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:54 AM Author: puce generalized bond old irish cottage doom came out a year after w3d (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420143) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:42 AM Author: Insecure Immigrant Cuckoldry COD 4 for better or worse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419698) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:43 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone razzle-dazzle volcanic crater Wolfenstein was definitely game changing, but I think Goldeneye brought the FPS genre to the masses in a way that opened the door to Counterstrike and the next gen. Halo was too late to get credit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419703) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:46 AM Author: sticky arousing university cs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419717) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 9:54 AM Author: adventurous lay mediation Fortnite (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40419754) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:56 AM Author: wonderful filthy home potus goldeneye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420155) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:13 PM Author: Mind-boggling Dingle Berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421584) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:57 PM Author: Orange contagious indian lodge sweet tailpipe Expected that to be everyone's post itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421845) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:00 PM Author: high-end crackhouse N64 controller design did not stand the test of time and it wasn't online. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421874) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:58 AM Author: charismatic step-uncle's house death wish Grand Theft Auto 5 and it’s not close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420171) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:58 AM Author: sepia hell athletic conference duck hunt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420178) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:10 AM Author: Twisted Set Wolfenstein 3d.
But doom took the formula and ran with it. |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:10 AM Author: adventurous lay mediation A Link to the Past (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420507) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:11 AM Author: sepia hell athletic conference fps, not technical rpg. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420579) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:35 AM Author: charismatic step-uncle's house death wish Link is the first person you play as and you need to shoot arrows to beat it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40420771) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:50 PM Author: Odious base Chex Quest (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421383) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:54 PM Author: hairraiser toaster fortuitous meteor considering consoles >>>>> PC in terms of popularity I would say goldeneye (first console multiplayer FPS) and COD 4. Also Halo 1/2. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421431) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 12:59 PM Author: high-end crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421482) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:01 PM Author: hideous point What are you talking about? Look up/down is bound to the C buttons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421492) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:03 PM Author: high-end crackhouse Does the gun not autoaim upwards to the 2nd floor? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421505) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:01 PM Author: laughsome senate boltzmann yeah it does, it's just a bitch to use on the standard controller set up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421496) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:02 PM Author: high-end crackhouse oh ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421501) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:09 PM Author: Sinister deer antler locus I don't think the Wolfenstein v. Doom argument is really productive since they are basically the same game engine
honestly, I would bundle the entire line of id software titles for this purpose to say the id software line (Wolfenstein-Doom-Quake) was the most influential for FPS |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:13 PM Author: laughsome senate boltzmann yeah, Quake was huge. for me it goes ID > Half-Life and its derivatives (CS, TFC) > Halo > COD (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421587) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:17 PM Author: concupiscible black abode police squad daikatna (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421614) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:57 PM Author: aqua judgmental national minecraft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421849) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:58 PM Author: costumed nofapping brunch Top 3 most influential, in order: Wolfenstein Goldeneye COD4 |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 1:59 PM Author: high-end crackhouse lol no a game from 2007 was not the most influential gtfo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421863) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:01 PM Author: costumed nofapping brunch Wolfenstien for essentially creating the FPS genre Goldeneye for creating FPS multiplayer COD4 for bringing FPS online multiplayer mainstream |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:02 PM Author: high-end crackhouse Counter Strike was released in 1999. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421891) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:06 PM Author: aqua judgmental national PC gamers are a troglodytic subrace compared to console gamers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421909) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:07 PM Author: high-end crackhouse How can you play an FPS without a mouse GTFO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421916) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:55 PM Author: aqua judgmental national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40425574) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:08 PM Author: costumed nofapping brunch It didn't really hit the mainstream until console players got involved. Since COD4, we've had 4-5 online FPS games released every year. COD4 started this trend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421925) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:12 PM Author: high-end crackhouse oh ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421955) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:03 PM Author: Aromatic hospital just to be contrarian you could also conceivably argue Unreal, given it spawned the Unreal game engine which went on to power the vast majority of fps games in the late 90s through to today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421894) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:06 PM Author: elite yellow library How is the answer not Zelda? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421913) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:08 PM Author: laughsome senate boltzmann cr what about Pilotwings as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421926) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 2:08 PM Author: Aromatic hospital tetris actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40421932) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 4:27 PM Author: Grizzly cruel-hearted cumskin How is the answer a thing that is not a FPS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40423022) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 4:37 PM Author: Twisted Set zelda literally had FPS https://youtu.be/yzbJssK12l4?t=195 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40423117) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 4:41 PM Author: Aromatic hospital are u saying zelda is an rpg? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40423144) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:49 PM Author: Grizzly cruel-hearted cumskin FPS = first person shooter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40425547) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 5:14 PM Author: brass market Wolf 3D and Doom for basically inventing the genre.
Half-Life for transforming the single player side of the genre from basic, level-based killboxes into narrative adventures. And on the multiplayer side, for spawning CS, among the most successful and influential mods of all time.
Half-Life 2 for introducing physics.
PUBG for inventing and popularizing the Battle Royale genre. Love it or hate it, Battle Royale defines the modern FPS (PUBG, Fortnite, Apex, Warzone) and has made the genre more popular and culturally relevant than ever. |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 5:19 PM Author: high-end crackhouse cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40423474) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:44 PM Author: flatulent dilemma I know everyone says Doom, but I never got into Doom even though I was the perfect demographic for it. It always felt too 2 dimensional and repetitive/predictable. Wolfenstein felt more innovative to me, and I think a lot of people who got into Doom had just never played Wolfenstein.
Half Life was the first FPS that actually got me hooked. It had a really cool look and feel with the jumping and shit. HL2 was maybe the apex. Spawned TF2 and CS, which still has an active community today. Pretty sure all potus multiplayer FPS were Valve products. |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:56 PM Author: violent indigo becky Perfect Dark (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40425576) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 10:57 PM Author: Mustard underhanded hairy legs I think Charles has it right that Doom/Wolfenstein set the standard for the genre the way Mario 64 did for adventure games, but similarly aren't relevant to modern games.
The two most popular types of FPS, deathmatch and battle royale, can respectively trace their modern origins to Halo and DayZ. |
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Date: June 16th, 2020 12:24 AM Author: brass market Halo is absolutely not the root of "deathmatch."
That path runs from Doom to Quake (including the original Team Fortress and Q3 Rocket Arena) to Unreal Tournament.
Hell even games like Rainbow Six were doing competitive ladder deathmatch before Halo existed. |
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Date: June 21st, 2020 8:05 AM Author: Thirsty shrine stfu zoomer quake deathmatch was a big thing, fuck nigga basically every FPS MP before halo featured DM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40465228) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:10 PM Author: Blathering chartreuse water buffalo dysfunction Quake, it gave birth to online multiplayer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40425667) |
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Date: June 15th, 2020 11:20 PM Author: aqua judgmental national minecraft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40425722) |
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Date: June 16th, 2020 12:57 AM Author: Massive dark digit ratio sex offender Doom/Wolf and it's not even close.
Half-Life was not even the progenator of "narrative campaigns," the main reason cited in its favor. Many games before had them. Half-Life just happened to set a new high water mark. |
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Date: June 16th, 2020 12:59 AM Author: high-end crackhouse Single player FPS is flame.
FPS is all about multiplayer over the internet since that's how you get thousands of hours of replay-ability. |
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Date: June 16th, 2020 12:59 AM Author: Federal forum organic girlfriend smells like duck sauce ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40426231) |
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Date: June 21st, 2020 8:53 AM Author: yapping cracking codepig wow a lot of boomers here who have actually played doom and wolfenstein lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40465285) |
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Date: June 21st, 2020 8:58 AM Author: aqua judgmental national minecraft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4560765&forum_id=2#40465301) |