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Is the commerce clause being interpreted as it was intended?
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:11 AM Author: mint meetinghouse Would this country be in better financial shape if it were? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130018) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:12 AM Author: deranged mood obviously not; no (less obviously). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130031) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:12 AM Author: razzmatazz pervert we need the commerce clause to be a general police power so liberals can write really long fucking articles in their fancy schmancy law reviews. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130033) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:13 AM Author: fear-inspiring slap-happy codepig no. it was clearly intended to cover gun sales on school grounds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130039) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:45 AM Author: translucent ceo home gun possession fag (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130853) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:15 AM Author: Lilac point No it is not, and yes parts (at least my part) of the country would be in better shape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130059) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:17 AM Author: Mustard charismatic stain fanboi "and yes parts (at least my part) of the country would be in better shape."
doubtful |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:41 AM Author: Lilac point Why do you say that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130365) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:42 AM Author: Mustard charismatic stain fanboi there are efficiencies that come with uniformity (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130370) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:12 PM Author: blue place of business principal's office N. Korea is about as uniform as it gets. Check out their efficiency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132062) |
Date: July 1st, 2009 1:14 AM Author: Mustard charismatic stain fanboi the more fully national the economy the better in the long run i'd think (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130046) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:16 AM Author: mint meetinghouse srsly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130070) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:16 AM Author: Mustard charismatic stain fanboi of course (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130075) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:17 AM Author: Rebellious cracking cuckold Seeing as it covers single site restaurants and goods that have never crossed state lines, I'd say the interpretation is pretty fucked up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130091) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:25 AM Author: Boyish Tank Skinny Woman titcr. commerce clause = permission for congress to regulate anything they want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130184) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:27 AM Author: Mahogany mind-boggling roast beef lettuce Nah dude, there are like, totally limits and stuff. You know...like, it's got to have substantial effects or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130205) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:46 AM Author: translucent ceo home BUT IS IT IN THE AGGREGATE OR NOT? OMFG I CAN'T TAKE THIS MY BRAIN SPLODES "splatter" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130857) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:25 AM Author: Mahogany mind-boggling roast beef lettuce No way. No, not better financial shape, but we'd be better off overall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130180) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:36 AM Author: chrome heaven Lulz. No.
And I've never heard someone seriously claim that it is. |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:39 AM Author: mint meetinghouse What do liberals have to say about this? And I'm not joking
EDIT: I'm not too sure, but wouldn't social security, medicare, most government agencies etc. be unconstitutional under the original meaning? Not that this would necessarily be bad, just wondering |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:41 AM Author: Mustard charismatic stain fanboi if the founders were as stupid and inflexible as you take them to be we'd have no reason to heed their words (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130359) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:44 AM Author: Rebellious cracking cuckold The founders created a method for amending the Constitution. This is preferable to congressional usurpation that gets rubber stamped by judicial fiat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130388) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:45 AM Author: Mustard charismatic stain fanboi nah i'd rather live with the rules we make by majority vote. but in any event not clear that the founders were as dumb as you take them to be--of course those debates should be merely academic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130401) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:07 PM Author: zombie-like appetizing plaza giraffe if you want to just live by majority rule, why bother having a constitution at all?
the founders definitely contemplated that the constitution would undergo significant change. I just think they expected the change to be done through open, legal, and democratic means rather than backdoor deals and regulatory creep. |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:46 PM Author: Dead Cordovan Jap You don't understand. The main purpose of the Constitution is not to set a foundation for limited government. The main purpose of the Constitution is that we can use it as a source for dreaming up endless whiny individual rights in order to justify MORE government power, not less. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132414) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:46 AM Author: mint meetinghouse I didn't say I agree. I was just curious if that was the original understanding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130407) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 1:49 AM Author: Mustard charismatic stain fanboi the folks around at the time likely didn't contemplate federal regulation on a contemporary scale. they also likely didn't contemplate anything like a modern economy. perhaps they would've come to different views on what federalism might entail down the line if they had (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130427) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:03 AM Author: chrome heaven WTF is the relationship between for first and second sentences? Contrasting? Complementary? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130559) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 2:46 AM Author: Mustard charismatic stain fanboi reasonably clear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130859) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:11 PM Author: domesticated laser beams knife I don't think this is an excuse for ignoring the document they wrote and calling yourself loyal to it. What liberals have done is push an illegal agenda using majroity vote. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132053) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:06 PM Author: zombie-like appetizing plaza giraffe social security, medicare, and most government agencies are really just spending programs, not regulation of commerce. They don't rely upon the commerce clause for their authority, but rather upon Congress's power to "lay and collect taxes [and spend them] to provide for the general welfare." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132021) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:13 PM Author: pearl tanning salon queen of the night titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132068) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:36 PM Author: bearded offensive goal in life institution I thought SS/medicare were general welfare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132320) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 3:02 AM Author: Concupiscible stage factory reset button lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12130907) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:13 PM Author: Soul-stirring boistinker old irish cottage no way to know dooder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1031228&forum_id=2#12132072) |
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Date: July 1st, 2009 12:43 PM Author: exhilarant field clown Enjoy!
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0514_0549_ZC1.html |