Aprox. rank of firms for OCI? Is median screwed completely? Hopefully, it will be higher this semester.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14005611)

I heard that medians last year struggled a bit - a complete hit or miss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14005791)

Do you have work experience in finance or biglaw? I heard from more than a few median 2L's that that made a difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14005858)

median might get you biglaw or you might get blanked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14006080)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14006271)

1: WLRK, W&C, etc.

2: CSM, S&C, DPW, Deb, etc.

3: Skadden, Weil, etc.

4: The rest

I would imagine that stone was good enough for 3 and 4 last season.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14006203)

i dont know, proportionately, how many transfers are admitted before and after bidding, but i doubt they take too many jobs from EIP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14014919)

he bid weirdly at EIP, a bunch of the V10, and then a whole bunch of lower V100's. Don't know how many callbacks/offers he got but he's headed to a V40 in NYC, which is not bad given ITE. he paralegaled for a year in NYC biglaw but that's the extent of his work experience to my knowledge.

also, CA was brutal this year. i have other friends with better grades than the guy I just mentioned, and who wanted CA, but got shut out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14016188)

Also, arrive early every day of EIP and add as many interviews as possible. Every morning, career services will have a white board in the waiting room that they write open timeslots for interviews that anyone can sign up for on a first come-first served basis.

I know people who were only assigned ~15 interviews during the bidding process but ended up doing over 30 interviews because they hustled during the symplicity add period and the add process at EIP. It'll be tiring and you'll absolutely hate interviewing after the first couple of days but it's worth it to give yourself the best possible shot at a job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14029079)

CLS 1L MEAN is 3.28. This is based upon the 2004-2005 grade distribution you can get off the G-drive.

Median is a little more complicated, but we can make a good estimate of that as well. B/c the grade distribution for each class is positive-skewed, the median grade in each class is higher than the mean grade for each class. So the MEDIAN grade given out by CLS in 1L year is 3.32.

It is most likely that when you take all the classes together, the 1L total GPA distribution is normally shaped, with maybe a slight positive-skew from the grade distribution in each class. So CLS 1L median GPA, as of 2004-2005, was between 3.28 and 3.32.

As a quick double check, if we take a mean GPA of 3.28, a median of 3.28, put 3.41 on the 29th percentile (as per the CLS website for the cutoff for Stone for 1L year), and assume a normal distribution and calculate the standard deviation of the GPA distribution, it comes out the a 3.8 would be at the 2nd percentile....which is exactly what CLS reports the cutoff for Kent to be. The calculation checks out.

So in sum, CLS median 1L GPA is between 3.28 and 3.30.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14032969)

Yes, the existence of AA admits and Hamiltons in the pool could theoretically throw it off a bit, but I guesstimated the numbers and unless something crazily extreme is going on, it doesn't alter the numbers above.

The only reasonable assumption is that aggregate 1L GPA is somewhat normally distributed, close enough so that theoretical median and actual median wouldn't deviate by too much. What CLS doesn't tell us (to obfuscate rank) is the standard deviation, but since they tell us the mean GPA and the 29th and 2nd percentile scores, we can back that out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14033003)

That doesn't matter, as long as the difference in aptitude are randomly distributed. To be precise, what I should have said is that given the nature of LS admissions, we should assume there's no systematic bias in the sample that would skew the distribution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14033561)

You know it won't be 100% correct, but since you can back out the standard deviation from the 29th and 2nd scores, if they are anywhere near each other couldn't you fairly confidently take that SD and produce the entire class curve?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14033584)

I find i get best results with a mean of 3.27 and a stdev of around 0.26, but 3.28/0.23 or 0.24 works almost as well.

I'm sure its not perfect, but its a reasonable enough approximation and 1,000,000 times better than POOMA guesses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14034349)

Also, presumably a firm that got bids from people throughout the class (say your standard-issue V20) has gotten enough transcripts that they could make this data themselves.

It's kind of crazy. Get all B+'s except for 1 B in a 4-credit course: you're at median. Get all B+'s except for 1 A- in a 4-credit course and an A- in your elective (which you can game by taking an elective with an easier curve): Stone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14033215)

10%=~3.60

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1211577&forum_id=2#14033616)