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Some Observations on the LSAT from a 1L
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:40 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker After a semester of ls, I've discovered that the games section is fucking retarded and inapplicable to anything you do in ls, and the nitpicky logical reasoning really only applies to statute reading. There should be two reading comp sections and one LR section, and that's it. Games should be excised entirely. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048162) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:41 PM Author: Amber bawdyhouse french chef lol you must have done poorly if you can't see how the skills the logical reasoning sections test are relevant to reading cases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048176) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:44 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048218) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:41 PM Author: Trip Know-it-all Indirect Expression flame. there are lots of games-like elements in the stuff you do in upper level classes. killself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048177) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:49 PM Author: Curious Jew Hominid To be fair, the OP is a 1L (just like me.) We wouldn't know what skills are required for upper year courses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048331) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:55 PM Author: Silver shitlib foreskin Like what? I'm a 2nd semester 2L and I haven't seen anything remotely games-like. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048432) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:22 PM Author: hyperactive thriller mother upper level classes? By games I assume you mean minesweeper? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048910) |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 1:13 PM Author: vibrant casino (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14054847) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:44 PM Author: flickering rambunctious jewess locus not only that, but if you declare that you want to go to law school, you should be exempted from taking the math portion of the sat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048221) |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 5:47 AM Author: drunken khaki pit counterargument: reading cases is unimportant, the exam is like a logic game with a far more complicated set of rules, so an LG master can break median simply by showing up with a decent outline (s)he's looked over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14053338) |
Date: February 7th, 2010 8:41 PM Author: rusted personal credit line mad-dog skullcap Hmm..
Maybe you have a point but those are the rules.
Ace it or fail.
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:48 PM Author: appetizing transparent plaza reading party cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048290) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:43 PM Author: Mentally impaired office Yeah, totally dude. A bunch of different rules, a fact scenario, taking those rules and synthesizing them together to come up with specific answers/outcomes.
Sounds unlike anything I ever did in law school.
Fucking idiot. |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:44 PM Author: erotic hilarious gaming laptop sanctuary i agree with OP. games-like reasoning is required in some upper level classes, but the material never rises to the difficulty of the actual LSAT logic games. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048210) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:47 PM Author: fiercely-loyal selfie i was a history major and nothing i saw rose to the difficulty of teh sat math, so in spite of its predictive capacity for freshman grades, i don't think i should have had to take it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048266) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:48 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker your analogy is shitty.
in college you are forced to take math.
in law school, you don't do anything that resembles assigning animals to cages. |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:50 PM Author: Curious Jew Hominid How are you forced to take math in college? Not all colleges require this - it's often dependent on major. I only had to take stats for my polisci major. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048343) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:51 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker link to stats not being math? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048358) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:53 PM Author: Curious Jew Hominid Philosophy doesn't even require stats though. Same with sociology & a lot of arts majors. I only took it because I was doing some research-intensive stuff with polisci, but not all polisci majors required it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048401) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:54 PM Author: Mentally impaired office TTT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048419) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:52 PM Author: flickering rambunctious jewess locus stats aren't math? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048375) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:53 PM Author: Mentally impaired office a) stats is math, b) any decent college requires at least 1-2 sems of math (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048393) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:56 PM Author: flickering rambunctious jewess locus dude, new school and sarah lawrence are RIGOROUS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048457) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:57 PM Author: Mentally impaired office rofl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048485) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:48 PM Author: Mentally impaired office If you think the LSAT games are difficult, you're a fucking retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048278) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:49 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker I think you must have sucked on reading comp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048305) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:51 PM Author: Mentally impaired office Nope. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048350) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:51 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker oh, well it's interesting how you read the idea that I thought the games were difficult into my OP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048370) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:54 PM Author: Mentally impaired office So you're argument is that by your OP you meant: "games are easy, but upper-level reasoning is SUPER easy!"
Please, we all know that wasn't what you meant. |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:57 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker Again, you misread my post. Jesus dude, are you a native speaker?
I AM NOT COMMENTING ON EASE/DIFFICULTY OF LG. THAT IS A SEPARATE DISCUSSION ENTIRELY.
What part of the word "inapplicable" do you not understand? |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:01 PM Author: Mentally impaired office What part of how to read a thread don't you understand? I was responding to a different post than yours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048578) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:03 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker but you responded to mine bro. it's cool though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048619) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:24 PM Author: erotic hilarious gaming laptop sanctuary lol learn to read aspie (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048933) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:25 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048939) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:48 PM Author: Curious Jew Hominid I agree. I think RC and LR are much more applicable. I was surprised how much the LSAT actually relates to the type of reasoning we do in law school... it's quite relevant. The people who say the LSAT doesn't accurately measure abilities in law school or how well you will do in law school.... I think are those who just did poorly on the LS. It's entirely relevant, but LG much less so. You can synthesize rules, etc. from logical reasoning as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048293) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:50 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker Right. LG style reasoning seems useless. People here claim you use this in upper-level classes...like fed courts? lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048334) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:49 PM Author: puce comical ticket booth mad cow disease thank you, 1.5L, for imparting your SAGE WISDOM to an up-and-coming generation of LS students (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048325) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:51 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker link to me attempting to impart wisdom?
sorry you have reading comp problems bro, and can't recognize that this is criticism of the lsat, not advice for 0Ls. |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:53 PM Author: puce comical ticket booth mad cow disease *stretches arms*
*leans back in chair*
"listen kids, i've been around the block in LS, okay? i've taken those four classes, and I can tell you that the analytical reasoning section on the LSAT has no relation to one's aptitude for legal studies. maybe you haven't heard, but i'm in the TOP THIRD. fuck all that statistical data and shit; i know the score." |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:55 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker you're right, you can definitely read my post as giving advice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048433) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:56 PM Author: appetizing transparent plaza reading party you are a good dood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048454) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:58 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker Honestly dude, I wondered how I can be in the top 1% of LSAT takers nationwide, but from reading xoxo, I realize that people can't read. Seriously. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048509) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:59 PM Author: puce comical ticket booth mad cow disease u mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048519) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:00 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker no, friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048542) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:04 PM Author: puce comical ticket booth mad cow disease "maybe you haven't heard, but i'm in the TOP 1% of LSAT takers." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048629) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:06 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker just a reminder bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048662) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:05 PM Author: talented theater stage So you're not just TOP THIRD at CCN? Jesus, that hefty intellect of yours must weigh you down some. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048640) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:06 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker obviously you don't go to a good ls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048664) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:09 PM Author: talented theater stage Obviously not, bro. I really wish I could get top 1/3 and land SKADDEN. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048694) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:09 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker t6 law schools aren't full of retards like your ls. it's a *little* tougher than being king of shit mountain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048701) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:21 PM Author: talented theater stage That's right, dude. Be proud of your accomplishments. There are only 700 other T6 students in the 2012 class who out performed you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048888) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:22 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker GET OUT OF MY THREAD ASS FACE
skadden secure |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:28 PM Author: puce comical ticket booth mad cow disease lol u mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048996) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:29 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker no friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049010) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:10 PM Author: Amber bawdyhouse french chef lulz rude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048716) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:11 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker you might make top third at your t-38 if you work hard and land BIGDUIDEFENSE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048724) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:39 PM Author: talented theater stage *works hard*
*gets a couple of B+'s and an A-*
*basks in glory of top 1/3 rank* |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:40 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker sorry about your shitty ls bro, enjoy unemployment/depression/suicide (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049199) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:42 PM Author: talented theater stage All kidding aside, you should consider toning down the douchbaggery. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049226) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:43 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker no wai pal, i earned it
-skadden secure |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:52 PM Author: Curious Jew Hominid How does LG relate to upper level courses? I'm a 1L and not sure... I would still think even if it does... that LR and RC would be much more applicable for interpretation of statutes, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048376) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:52 PM Author: Charcoal electric address skinny woman i agree with the OP. i aced the logic games by just mechanically applying the setups from the logic games bible. i had like 7 minutes left at the end. really what's the point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048384) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:53 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker that's what i did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048390) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:56 PM Author: Amber bawdyhouse french chef Agreed. I think the LG section should be removed, because it gives people with the time/money/resources/social network to prepare correctly a huge advantage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048451) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:57 PM Author: Mentally impaired office Agreed, I think [life] should be removed, because it gives people with the time/money/resources/social network to prepare correctly a huge advantage. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048476) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:57 PM Author: flickering rambunctious jewess locus at no point in a four-year college degree does anyone have time to buy and learn the lgb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048479) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:59 PM Author: Amber bawdyhouse french chef Not everyone knows that the LGB is as good as it is. To be fair, though, my criticism would have been more appropriate ten years ago, when it wasn't trivially easy for a smart person to figure out how to do well on the test. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048514) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:02 PM Author: Fluffy Hairraiser Forum Rigpig "Not everyone knows that the LGB is as good as it is."
If only there were an internet . . .
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:06 PM Author: Amber bawdyhouse french chef right, that's why I said it would have been more appropriate 10 years ago.
Still, it seems silly to test whether people can find and use third party strategies to do well on a section of the test. Why not eliminate it altogether? |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:08 PM Author: flickering rambunctious jewess locus i've taught lsat for three years, believe me, most people are incapable of mastering logic games (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048684) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:11 PM Author: Curious Jew Hominid yeah I'm one of them. To do well requires practice + innate capabilities obviously... but I think to get 165+ and a good score on logic games, it rests moreso on the latter. A mediocre student with a LGB still won't improve much, I'd think. It's the most difficult section, objectively... (although RC can be difficult as well, but most intelligent arts majors would find it pretty easy, I'd imagine, and doesn't require much studying. LG is the opposite..) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048730) |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 5:43 AM Author: Dark idiotic library you underestimate the willingness of strivers to sandpaper their own dicks for a good score (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14053337) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:02 PM Author: flickering rambunctious jewess locus i found out about it by googling and looking at amazon lists, it took me about 3 hours to decide what books to buy. i'm from a very rural and poor background. i see where you're coming from but honestly there is no real barrier anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048604) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:59 PM Author: appetizing transparent plaza reading party buying the lgb takes several minutes online. the lgb can be assimilated over the course of a few hours each weekend for couple months. the latter is possible for a liberal arts student at a state school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048524) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:56 PM Author: Curious Jew Hominid The point is that you're testing your logical reasoning skills.... I can see the point of LG but not necessarily the direct relevance to law school courses. I doubt I'd ever have to use LG reasoning for something like con. law, for instance. Or even torts. Maybe contracts, at best.
But many people have difficulty with LG... you are likely good at math/stats/economics, if you had so little difficulty with it - those types of people (from what I've heard and just my own intuition..) tend to do best at it. And engineering students as well. My arts friends struggled most with this section. |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:58 PM Author: appetizing transparent plaza reading party the problem with LG is that it's the easiest section to prep for and improve upon. improvements with LR and RC are harder to come by and are more in line with natural ability, especially the latter section. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048503) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:10 PM Author: Curious Jew Hominid I don't know if that's true... well, yes I improved in logic games but not that much. I used LGB as well. LG was probably the section I improved on most... LR I hardly studied and got almost 100% on... but the first few times were brutal (I think because of the time limit and I was overthinking things.) I still found LG by far, the most difficult section even with LGB. And a few of my friends did as well... it's not the easiest section to prep for, but improvements may come the easiest for most people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048703) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:16 PM Author: appetizing transparent plaza reading party lol prepping for LG just means copying diagrams from the LGB. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048818) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:00 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker I'm OK with math and science, but I just gamed the system. I bought the PS bible and practiced set ups. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048532) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:07 PM Author: Charcoal electric address skinny woman yeah but my performance had nothing to do with my logical skills and everything to do with my purchasing a $20 book upon advice from the internet.
the section tests internet resourcefulness more than anything else. |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:09 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker cr. actually a friend randomly mentioned the bible and i picked it up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048695) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 8:57 PM Author: Vigorous Slimy Institution If only. I was perfect on LR and RC but got enough LG wrong to not have a ridiculously high score. Doh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048494) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:00 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker How are your ls grades? rank school? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048558) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:05 PM Author: Vigorous Slimy Institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048642) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:00 PM Author: marvelous lemon antidepressant drug box office I thought so too until I took property. The Estates system uses some of the same skills that games do. This is also true of some bullshit in Admin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048545) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:01 PM Author: Trip Know-it-all Indirect Expression also when you do difficult jurisdictional stuff in civpro or fedcts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048565) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:03 PM Author: marvelous lemon antidepressant drug box office cr.
It's MOAR applicable than I thought it would be. |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:07 PM Author: puce comical ticket booth mad cow disease dude IDK, this guy has an entire semester of LS under his belt and he's TOP THIRD. if he says that the games section of the LSAT is inapposite to legal studies, i believe him. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048670) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:08 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker cls has 170-175 25/75 lsat. it's not full of drooling retards like your ls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048683) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:08 PM Author: puce comical ticket booth mad cow disease lol u mad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048690) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:10 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker no friend (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048704) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:10 PM Author: talented theater stage Are you serious, bro? That makes top 1/3 pretty elite. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048719) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:11 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker get out of my thread jerkface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048733) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:22 PM Author: talented theater stage Why the hostility, broheim? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048900) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:25 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker sry friend, i'm a little on edge right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048954) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:13 PM Author: Curious Jew Hominid I am now legitimately scared to take civpro... I don't intend on taking upper year property courses anyway. No interest in corporate law... so I can avoid corporate tax as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048765) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:15 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker civ pro is pretty easy. just get glannon + good flowchart (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048799) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:01 PM Author: talented theater stage False. See, e.g., corporate tax, property, admin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048568) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:10 PM Author: Trip Know-it-all Indirect Expression good call on corp tax. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048708) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:14 PM Author: Curious Jew Hominid How is CivPro related to GAMES? ... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048778) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:16 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker tcq. i don't think there's any relation at all. if anything, pure memorization is most important (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14048816) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:35 PM Author: contagious emerald volcanic crater By the time that someone has decided that s/he would like to take the LSAT, s/he has already taken the SAT.
There seems to be no really good reason that explains why anyone preparing for the LSAT should be caught with their pants down unaware of the fact that there is a booming test prep industry that exists, and is there only because it continues to earn a profit by helping test takers achieve their highest possible score.
Its existence is not mystical knowledge nor does it seem a requirement that one should have to work any longer than a single, eight hour shift at, for instance, some silly job, earning $5/hour, if he wishes to acquire the choicest prep materials for his own use. |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:37 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker true. that's not the argument i'm making. i'm just saying the skillset it tests is inapplicable, whereas reading comp/logical reasoning target ls skills directly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049140) |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:42 PM Author: contagious emerald volcanic crater I thought that your argument was that,
because (aspect) A (from the LSAT) does not test for (some) skill set B (applicable to practice in law school) therefore,
--> A should be dropped from the LSAT |
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Date: February 7th, 2010 9:44 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker you're saying that prep materials/knowledge of the test format & how to prep is widely available. i don't disagree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14049266) |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 10:41 AM Author: Wine Hateful Stag Film Place Of Business the ability to learn the process required for the logic games and then apply that process in a limited time environment is very much what you do in law school. You learn a process for analyzing fact patterns and applying an area of law, and then you apply that process to a fact pattern.
If we didn't have the prep industry, then the games section would be close to useless because nobody would finish and most would get all but 1 or 2 wrong. But, since everyone practices, the logic games weeds out those people who are intellectually incapable of learning the games' process and then applying that process quickly.
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Date: February 8th, 2010 12:47 PM Author: bonkers clear menage performance on the games section is the single greatest predictor for both success as a junior associate (the Williamson Scale) and partnership elevation at the v-47 firms (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14054653) |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 1:09 PM Author: adventurous hell weed whacker cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14054819) |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:51 PM Author: flickering rambunctious jewess locus v-47 was a little predictable, so i give this post a 178.5 (chicago scale) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14061097) |
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Date: February 8th, 2010 11:49 PM Author: At-the-ready whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1215657&forum_id=2#14061074) |