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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:36 PM Author: opaque den This is an objective rank of undergraduate student quality for 20 schools in California.
It is based on SAT scores, acceptance rate, and the % of students who were in the top 10% of their HS class. If you weight those factors differently you can move the ranking, of course.
1. CalTech 2. Stanford 3. Pomona 4. Harvey Mudd 5. Claremontt McKenna 6. Berkeley 6. USC 8. Scripps 9. UCLA 10. UCSD 11. Occidental 12. Pitzer 13. UCSB 13. UC Irvine 15. UC Davis 16. UC Santa Cruz 17. Cal Poly SLO 17. U of San Diego 19. UC Riverside 20. UC Merced
I didn't look at any other schools. Its likely there are schools I didn't look at that would push UCR and UCM off the list, since they suck. |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:39 PM Author: primrose parlor ridiculous claremont colleges and santa cruz trolling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336583) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:40 PM Author: opaque den it's objective, dude. suggest different weighting of the factors and I'll update the rank for you. I am that cool/uncool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336601) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:47 PM Author: primrose parlor pomona above harvey mudd? why? the quality of the student body, idk about that. santa cruz above anything? the students at UCSC are mostly retards. SLO has a significantly better student body that all but UCLA and berkeley, though pretty close to UCSD/davis. UCSB is an excellent party school, but the majority of the students there are retards, irvine has a significantly smarter student body, though completely azn and unattractive. also you cant tout the student body at the university of spoiled children for anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336664) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:55 PM Author: opaque den Pomona and Harvey Mudd are almost identical in SAT scores (Pomona's a couple points better), but HM's acceptance rate is twice as high. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336723) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:57 PM Author: primrose parlor control for size and number of applicants? i think HM has a lot of self-selection. non-smart peeps don't apply, whereas a lot of people apply to pomona anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336731) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 10:05 PM Author: opaque den How would an acceptance rate work when it controls for those things? That's what the 'rate' is.
Anyway, you can drop acceptance rate from consideration and Pomona and HM are basically tied, but Pomona wins by a nose (3 points) on SAT scores. |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:40 PM Author: Cerise menage This list falls apart after the top 2. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336595) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:40 PM Author: opaque den you mean it fails to conform to your preconceptions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336605) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:42 PM Author: Cerise menage USC over UCLA is obviously wrong and only one of many glaring errors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336619) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:44 PM Author: opaque den The average SAT for the middle 50% at USC is 682. At UCLA it's 643. Their acceptance rates and % of class in the top tenth of their high school class are about the same, so USC students > UCLA students by these criteria. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336640) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:51 PM Author: Garnet judgmental ticket booth USC: 50% had high school GPA of 3.75 or higher UCLA: 92% had high school GPA of 3.75 or higher
Anyway, no doubt UCLA has a lot more mediocre students, but it also has a lot more actual top students, professors and departments. |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:54 PM Author: opaque den I agree that's important. It's accounted for to a small extent in my formula by the proportion of the class that was in the top tenth of their high school class, but your numbers show that difference more starkly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336711) |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:37 AM Author: charismatic iridescent step-uncle's house This is obviously wrong. Besides the outrageous Claremont Colleges trolling, USC over UCLA is borderline retarded. I know you are pointing to the SAT scores, but you should probably check to see how they collect the data on scores. USC allows applicants to submit their best scores from sections no matter what test date. UCLA requires applicants to use a score from one single test sitting.
Basically, if you're a dumb and study for one section at a time, you can game the system for USC and not UCLA. |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:45 AM Author: light piazza cr, and this is only ONE of the things that's wrong with the USC ranking here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14338867) |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:44 AM Author: light piazza LOL @ USC = Berkeley - literally no one in the state of California believes that, and that includes USC grads who are drunk enough to be honest (which given that we're talking about USC is probably most of them, most of the time.)
LOLOL @ USC >> UCLA
LOLOLOL @ the shameless LAC trolling...how was Pomona, faggot?
The top three schools in California are, without a doubt, Stanford/Caltech/Berkeley. The exact order there might be subject to some dispute, but those are HYS and there's no question about it.
You're a fucking retard, HTH |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:54 AM Author: Indecent unhinged trust fund WTF is a Pitzer? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14338968) |
Date: March 8th, 2010 9:44 PM Author: Garnet judgmental ticket booth Acceptance rate is a pretty meaningless factor. Pepperdine's probably somewhere. |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:47 PM Author: opaque den It's a proxy for other things like choosing good students based on soft factors.
In my formula, throwing out the acceptance rate makes Stanford fall to 4th place. It doesn't change anything else.
I will check Pepperdine. |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:50 PM Author: opaque den Pepperdine's about tied with UC Santa Cruz. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336679) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:45 PM Author: Cruel-hearted submissive brunch what about santa clara? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336645) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:51 PM Author: opaque den Santa Clara would be right after UCSC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336695) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:52 PM Author: Cruel-hearted submissive brunch bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336700) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:59 PM Author: opaque den Bullshit, you say? Suck on the data:
Santa Clara: 59% accepted, 550-650, 570-680, 550-680, 37% UCSC: 64% accepted, 510-630, 520-640, 520-630, 96%
My formula gives Santa Clara a score of 648 and UCSC 653. (Compared to 847 for CalTech.)
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Date: March 8th, 2010 10:04 PM Author: Garnet judgmental ticket booth There's some serious BS going on with that top 10% number. If you look at UCSC: 34% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher * 34% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74 * 22% had h.s. GPA between 3.25 and 3.49 * 8% had h.s. GPA between 3.0 and 3.24 * 2% had h.s. GPA between 2.5 and 2.99
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:46 PM Author: White Excitant Stag Film I agree with your claremont trolling, but is harvey mudd even a real college? I feel like there's 5 majors there and they're all math (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336655) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:51 PM Author: beady-eyed friendly grandma native list should discount for % of asians (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336690) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:59 PM Author: beady-eyed friendly grandma native 58% - UC Irvine 49% - UCSD 42% - Berkeley 41% - UC Riverside 40% - UC Davis 40% - UCLA 39% - Caltech 34% - UC Merced 26% - USC 23% - Stanford 23% - UC Santa Cruz 21% - UCSB 18% - Occidental 15% - Harvey Mudd 13% - Pomona 13% - Cal Poly SLO 12% - Scripps 12% - USD 10% - Claremont McKenna 8% - Pitzer |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 10:02 PM Author: White Excitant Stag Film lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336783) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 9:51 PM Author: big sepia pit chico state? hello?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336692) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 10:01 PM Author: opaque den Some distance below UC Merced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14336776) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 11:13 PM Author: aromatic coldplay fan wtf is a Harvey Mudd? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14337641) |
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Date: March 8th, 2010 11:22 PM Author: Bonkers stimulating theater lol
Try finding a job overseas, hell, outside of Southern California, with a degree from Pomona. |
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Date: March 9th, 2010 12:53 AM Author: Amber Rehab Loyola or Cal Poly Pomona probably pwn Riverside for the #20 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1245185&forum_id=2#14338960) |