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2L Grades and perm. offers

does anyone actually know someone who didn't get an offer
wonderful corner newt
  05/03/10
i hear gibson dunn cares mucho about the grades
Canary crotch dingle berry
  05/03/10
stfu
Erotic place of business
  05/03/10
how did your 2L grades go down so much. isn't there an easi...
fighting half-breed
  05/03/10
rofl, class rank is all that matters plus if you do very ...
Erotic place of business
  05/03/10
they didn't go down a ton, but assume a firm that cares as m...
wonderful corner newt
  05/03/10
the easier curve thing is pretty exaggerated. most schools ...
Grizzly Pontificating Regret Trailer Park
  05/03/10
...
Clear diverse feces personal credit line
  09/07/10
most firms don't give a shit - they don't even request trans...
Spruce swashbuckling nowag
  05/03/10
Yeah, my firm never asked.
Big pervert
  05/03/10
according to some former clerks, this firm does ask. how mu...
wonderful corner newt
  05/03/10
All I know is the work you do will say more about...the work...
Big pervert
  05/03/10
which firm is this? i might be able to give you specific inf...
Canary crotch dingle berry
  05/03/10
don't really want to risk it. any specific examples will su...
wonderful corner newt
  05/03/10
yeah, i know specific examples of many firms. that's why im ...
Canary crotch dingle berry
  05/03/10
thanks FRIEND - smallest GPA difference b/n 1l and 2l you kn...
wonderful corner newt
  05/03/10
not gonna say unless i know the firm. this is useless otherw...
Canary crotch dingle berry
  05/03/10
v50
wonderful corner newt
  05/03/10
whoa ok. Unless it's munger or irell, i dont know. i was thi...
Canary crotch dingle berry
  05/03/10
what about for those two
Infuriating primrose kitty
  05/03/10
if variance is more than .2, ur fucked.
Canary crotch dingle berry
  05/03/10
overall or per year? i thought both these firms have over 90...
Infuriating primrose kitty
  05/03/10
overall
Canary crotch dingle berry
  05/03/10
thanks
Infuriating primrose kitty
  05/03/10
how do you know what your grades are?
180 violent locale goyim
  05/03/10
know 1st semester, assuming the worst this semester (althoug...
wonderful corner newt
  05/03/10
enjoy your gibson dunn no offer!
Racy messiness striped hyena
  05/03/10
what kind of drop are we talking about here? 3.7 1L to 3.5 ...
fighting half-breed
  05/03/10
not even that much.
wonderful corner newt
  05/03/10
ROFL!
Erotic place of business
  05/03/10
wtf you're fine
Impressive mint address private investor
  09/07/10
this thread is such a failure
Spruce swashbuckling nowag
  05/03/10
glad you approve.
wonderful corner newt
  05/03/10
all the outing shit really killed on-topic discussion. i saw...
Impressive mint address private investor
  05/03/10
My grades went WAY down. We'll see what happens.
salmon idea he suggested wagecucks
  05/03/10
you will be in shitlaw
Erotic place of business
  05/03/10
...
salmon idea he suggested wagecucks
  09/07/10
Choosing between a few firms for next summer, including GDC....
Clear diverse feces personal credit line
  09/07/10
I tend to think this GDC phenomenon is greatly exaggerated.
Excitant Legend Range
  09/07/10
as long as you get top 1/3 2L year you should be fine.
fighting half-breed
  09/07/10
just have to show that you haven't totally given up. I know...
Provocative kitchen ratface
  09/07/10
As in they were only top 35% or so for their 2L and 3L years...
Clear diverse feces personal credit line
  09/07/10
What if you are already below median and a firm makes you a ...
judgmental dragon
  09/07/10
um, what?
Excitant Legend Range
  09/07/10
A firm makes an SA offer to you. You are below median. Take ...
judgmental dragon
  09/07/10
Most firms don't care about 2L grades. If they hired you as...
Excitant Legend Range
  09/07/10
k, ty
judgmental dragon
  09/07/10
That applies to most BigLaw firms, at least- I can's speak f...
Excitant Legend Range
  09/07/10
I am talking about BIGLAW.
judgmental dragon
  09/07/10
I heard of one firm (v100) that told person he/she had to br...
pearl naked skinny woman orchestra pit
  09/07/10
Aprox rank?
judgmental dragon
  09/07/10
I'm guessing that person had some seriously shitty grades (C...
Excitant Legend Range
  09/07/10


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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:20 PM
Author: wonderful corner newt
Subject: does anyone actually know someone who didn't get an offer

Because of 2L grades? Mine didn't go down a ton - It's not like I rocked straigt B's or anything - but they certainly did go down a bit. Summer clerkship is at a firm that supposedly DOES care about 2L grades, especially if you believe the XOXO minions.

Any anicdotes about someone who didn't get a permanent offer specifically because of their grades? If so, how much of a drop in GPA/percentile caused it. TYIA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894875)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:22 PM
Author: Canary crotch dingle berry

i hear gibson dunn cares mucho about the grades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894885)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:24 PM
Author: Erotic place of business

stfu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894894)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:25 PM
Author: fighting half-breed

how did your 2L grades go down so much. isn't there an easier curve than 1L

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894899)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:29 PM
Author: Erotic place of business

rofl, class rank is all that matters

plus if you do very well 1L your GPA barely gets easier to maintain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894924)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:29 PM
Author: wonderful corner newt

they didn't go down a ton, but assume a firm that cares as much (at least reportedly) about grades as GDC. Any actual stories of autoding grade fail in this scenario?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894927)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 2:26 PM
Author: Grizzly Pontificating Regret Trailer Park

the easier curve thing is pretty exaggerated. most schools just eliminate mandatory B- or whatever and leave the curve otherwise the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895684)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:05 PM
Author: Clear diverse feces personal credit line



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989314)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:28 PM
Author: Spruce swashbuckling nowag

most firms don't give a shit - they don't even request transcripts oftentimes. there was a big thread on this recently - search "2L grades".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894919)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:28 PM
Author: Big pervert

Yeah, my firm never asked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894921)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:30 PM
Author: wonderful corner newt

according to some former clerks, this firm does ask. how much it matters is what I'm trying to figure out. I'm also attempting to see if the GPA fail is really a myth, or if it only matters if your GPA/rank goes down substantially.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894935)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:32 PM
Author: Big pervert

All I know is the work you do will say more about...the work you are able to do than grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894949)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:32 PM
Author: Canary crotch dingle berry

which firm is this? i might be able to give you specific info. type itin then edit out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894952)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:34 PM
Author: wonderful corner newt

don't really want to risk it. any specific examples will suffice, I'll draw my own conclusions. The problem is I hear a lot of "oh, they really care about grades", but haven't been able to track down any specific examples of clerks getting now offered b/c of grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894969)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:35 PM
Author: Canary crotch dingle berry

yeah, i know specific examples of many firms. that's why im asking.

im here to help you mang

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894983)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:36 PM
Author: wonderful corner newt

thanks FRIEND - smallest GPA difference b/n 1l and 2l you know of that resulted in no-offer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894993)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:37 PM
Author: Canary crotch dingle berry

not gonna say unless i know the firm. this is useless otherwise. vault rage at least?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895004)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:43 PM
Author: wonderful corner newt

v50

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895056)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:50 PM
Author: Canary crotch dingle berry

whoa ok. Unless it's munger or irell, i dont know. i was thinking V10 or V15 or something..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895109)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:58 PM
Author: Infuriating primrose kitty

what about for those two

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895144)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:59 PM
Author: Canary crotch dingle berry

if variance is more than .2, ur fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895161)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:04 PM
Author: Infuriating primrose kitty

overall or per year? i thought both these firms have over 90% offer rates. are ALL the no-offers due to grades?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895186)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:07 PM
Author: Canary crotch dingle berry

overall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895204)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:08 PM
Author: Infuriating primrose kitty

thanks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895213)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:34 PM
Author: 180 violent locale goyim

how do you know what your grades are?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894963)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:35 PM
Author: wonderful corner newt

know 1st semester, assuming the worst this semester (although, honestly, I think I'll do better than last semester)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894984)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:35 PM
Author: Racy messiness striped hyena

enjoy your gibson dunn no offer!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14894985)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:42 PM
Author: fighting half-breed

what kind of drop are we talking about here? 3.7 1L to 3.5 2L?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895052)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:45 PM
Author: wonderful corner newt

not even that much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895072)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:48 PM
Author: Erotic place of business

ROFL!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895089)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:28 PM
Author: Impressive mint address private investor

wtf you're fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990433)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:42 PM
Author: Spruce swashbuckling nowag

this thread is such a failure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895055)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:44 PM
Author: wonderful corner newt

glad you approve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895066)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:46 PM
Author: Impressive mint address private investor

all the outing shit really killed on-topic discussion. i saw a pumo the other day who wouldn't give his school range. a pumo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895081)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 12:59 PM
Author: salmon idea he suggested wagecucks

My grades went WAY down. We'll see what happens.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895160)



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Date: May 3rd, 2010 1:08 PM
Author: Erotic place of business

you will be in shitlaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#14895209)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 8:50 PM
Author: salmon idea he suggested wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990073)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:23 PM
Author: Clear diverse feces personal credit line

Choosing between a few firms for next summer, including GDC. How much of a drop in grades is tolerated? Assume right around top 10% as 1L.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989456)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:28 PM
Author: Excitant Legend Range

I tend to think this GDC phenomenon is greatly exaggerated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989498)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:28 PM
Author: fighting half-breed

as long as you get top 1/3 2L year you should be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989500)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:35 PM
Author: Provocative kitchen ratface

just have to show that you haven't totally given up. I know plenty who dropped top 10% 1L and graduated top 25% and nothing happened to their offers.

now if you drop from top 10 to median...well there may be hell to pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989546)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 7:57 PM
Author: Clear diverse feces personal credit line

As in they were only top 35% or so for their 2L and 3L years?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15989739)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:07 PM
Author: judgmental dragon

What if you are already below median and a firm makes you a SA offer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990216)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:11 PM
Author: Excitant Legend Range

um, what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990258)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:12 PM
Author: judgmental dragon

A firm makes an SA offer to you. You are below median. Take said offer. Remain below median 2L year. No offered?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990274)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:13 PM
Author: Excitant Legend Range

Most firms don't care about 2L grades. If they hired you as an SA, and they traditionally make near-100% offers, chances are that grades do not factor into the decision unless you really fuck up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990289)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:15 PM
Author: judgmental dragon

k, ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990315)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:16 PM
Author: Excitant Legend Range

That applies to most BigLaw firms, at least- I can's speak for any other employers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990328)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:22 PM
Author: judgmental dragon

I am talking about BIGLAW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990394)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 9:47 PM
Author: pearl naked skinny woman orchestra pit

I heard of one firm (v100) that told person he/she had to bring up their grades 3L year or offer would be rescinded. true story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990616)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 10:17 PM
Author: judgmental dragon

Aprox rank?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990945)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 10:19 PM
Author: Excitant Legend Range

I'm guessing that person had some seriously shitty grades (Cs or worse)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1301674&forum_id=2#15990967)