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3L, just discovered the beauty of UNCURVED SEMINARS

I screwed up 2L year. I took only classes that were curved a...
Supple party of the first part
  09/07/10
pansy.
Odious Avocado Library
  09/07/10
fair enough
Supple party of the first part
  09/08/10
What kind of grades did you get? They must not have been tha...
floppy bistre incel people who are hurt
  09/08/10
2L grades were pretty bad man. But they don't really matter....
Supple party of the first part
  09/08/10
What is pretty bad?
floppy bistre incel people who are hurt
  09/08/10
Maybe around bottom 20-30%
Supple party of the first part
  09/08/10
WTF? Did you study at all? Sounds more like you just didn't ...
floppy bistre incel people who are hurt
  09/08/10
Yeah I didn't study much. But I didn't blow it off either. ...
Supple party of the first part
  09/08/10
Sounds like you are making excuses.
chrome home
  09/09/10
Sure, I guess. The point is I should have taken seminars.
Supple party of the first part
  09/09/10
Be careful! Not all seminars are easy As. I went to a T10, ...
cruel-hearted spruce field
  09/09/10
Were your 2L grades significantly worse than your 1L grades?
Henna piazza
  09/07/10
yes
Supple party of the first part
  09/08/10
So there was this guy in my lawschool class. He disappeared...
Crimson submissive lay
  09/08/10
you've posted this before
Odious Avocado Library
  09/08/10
it bears repeating
aqua swashbuckling alpha
  09/08/10
...
Cobalt feces organic girlfriend
  09/08/10
Watchout for seminars taught by new profs or lecturers, who ...
cordovan station
  09/08/10
cr try to take seminars with olds who don't care anymore. t...
Greedy Abode
  09/08/10
good point. my profs seem to be very cool with different vie...
Supple party of the first part
  09/08/10
damn my school :(
Appetizing embarrassed to the bone parlour regret
  09/08/10
except they're not worth that many credits. i'd prefer to ta...
Yellow territorial location macaca
  09/08/10
you have to do a balance. 2 2 credit classes per semester i...
Poppy At-the-ready Multi-billionaire
  09/08/10
old profs don't give a fuck about attendance faggot
aqua swashbuckling alpha
  09/08/10
Even that's a lot. Too much reading, especially since you'r...
Yellow territorial location macaca
  09/08/10
oh come now. you guys really can't figure out how to game it...
irate tanning salon police squad
  09/08/10
So far it seems like many seminars have light reading, and y...
Supple party of the first part
  09/08/10
Also true.
irate tanning salon police squad
  09/08/10
After 1L classes, there's no set grade distribution at my sc...
floppy bistre incel people who are hurt
  09/08/10
This is not how it works at my school.
Supple party of the first part
  09/08/10
1L: under median 3L: Stone Yeah, seminars are the way to...
irate tanning salon police squad
  09/08/10
Yeah, I wish I had discovered seminars, too. I am always a s...
wine well-lubricated dysfunction personal credit line
  09/08/10
i fucking HATE seminars.... having to actually participate i...
sapphire house
  09/08/10
I tried this strategy out and ended up in a tightly curved c...
Henna piazza
  09/08/10
Seminars aren't curved generally. What school do you attend?
floppy bistre incel people who are hurt
  09/08/10
It wasn't a mandatory curve. The prof. was just hardcore abo...
Henna piazza
  09/08/10
What grade did you get?
floppy bistre incel people who are hurt
  09/08/10
B+
Henna piazza
  09/08/10
LOL, yea bro, that's just terrible!
floppy bistre incel people who are hurt
  09/08/10
For a non-core upper level class, it really is. That's the s...
Henna piazza
  09/08/10
Reality!
nudist dilemma
  09/08/10
You're right. Getting median grades during 2L/3L is back bre...
Henna piazza
  09/08/10
hahaha youre so full of yourself
cyan national
  09/09/10
My post was hyperbolic, obviously, but it's not much of an e...
Henna piazza
  09/09/10
Not ITE man.
Supple party of the first part
  09/09/10
Slacking is probably a function of placement ITE. My school ...
Henna piazza
  09/09/10
at our school (at T25), the upper-class seminars are curved ...
twinkling contagious crackhouse
  09/09/10
So a bunch of unemployed people with shitlaw 1L grades who c...
Vibrant pearl rigor
  09/09/10
to a certain extent evidence is a far easier class than thos...
twinkling contagious crackhouse
  09/09/10
fair but i'm mocking op's shit
Vibrant pearl rigor
  09/09/10
Taking classes to prep for the bar is decidedly NOT prestigi...
Henna piazza
  09/09/10
If you have shit 1L grades, you've gotta fucking hussle. And...
Vibrant pearl rigor
  09/09/10
OP here, I HAVE a job. 1L grades were decent. I just sort of...
Supple party of the first part
  09/09/10
there's a seminar at our school. it was fully registered. th...
twinkling contagious crackhouse
  09/09/10


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Date: September 7th, 2010 11:54 PM
Author: Supple party of the first part

I screwed up 2L year. I took only classes that were curved and more difficult, thinking:

these classes are more useful and interesting

don't care to listen to dipshits opine on broad policy matters

hate writing papers

will just work hard and get good grades anyway

Got bad grades 2L. Still got a job so it's ok, but now as a 3L I'm taking seminars and they are like a fucking dream compared to real classes. These are going to be much easier, many profs give all As, and I don't actually mind all the share-your-thoughts stuff after all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15991974)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 11:55 PM
Author: Odious Avocado Library

pansy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15991987)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:12 AM
Author: Supple party of the first part

fair enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992166)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 7:02 AM
Author: floppy bistre incel people who are hurt

What kind of grades did you get? They must not have been that bad if you still landed a job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993710)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:18 PM
Author: Supple party of the first part

2L grades were pretty bad man. But they don't really matter. 1L and then your summer work is what matters.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994836)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:19 PM
Author: floppy bistre incel people who are hurt

What is pretty bad?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994849)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:23 PM
Author: Supple party of the first part

Maybe around bottom 20-30%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994880)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:24 PM
Author: floppy bistre incel people who are hurt

WTF? Did you study at all? Sounds more like you just didn't give a fuck than anything else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994892)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:29 PM
Author: Supple party of the first part

Yeah I didn't study much. But I didn't blow it off either.

The problem was that all my classes were difficult and curved, and the other people in them were all taking only 1 or 2 serious classes, allowing them to pwn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994940)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:03 PM
Author: chrome home

Sounds like you are making excuses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003053)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:04 PM
Author: Supple party of the first part

Sure, I guess. The point is I should have taken seminars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003063)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:49 PM
Author: cruel-hearted spruce field

Be careful! Not all seminars are easy As. I went to a T10, and some of the seminar profs did not give easy As (although the majority did).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003328)



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Date: September 7th, 2010 11:58 PM
Author: Henna piazza

Were your 2L grades significantly worse than your 1L grades?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992029)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:11 AM
Author: Supple party of the first part

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992161)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:00 AM
Author: Crimson submissive lay

So there was this guy in my lawschool class. He disappeared after 1l year. Ran into him as a 3l. Asked him what happened. He said his grades sucked first year so he took nothing but seminars for the next two years and was pretty much making straight As

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992073)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:02 AM
Author: Odious Avocado Library

you've posted this before

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992106)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 5:12 AM
Author: aqua swashbuckling alpha

it bears repeating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993673)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:31 AM
Author: Cobalt feces organic girlfriend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992289)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:31 AM
Author: cordovan station

Watchout for seminars taught by new profs or lecturers, who might be looking to reward true believers. Old profs who just teach seminars because they don't give a shit are awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992290)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:18 AM
Author: Greedy Abode

cr try to take seminars with olds who don't care anymore. the fkn young profs actually make u work for the A

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992560)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:20 PM
Author: Supple party of the first part

good point. my profs seem to be very cool with different viewpoints and more interested in just having a nice discussion than imparting any serious rigor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994853)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 12:31 AM
Author: Appetizing embarrassed to the bone parlour regret

damn my school :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992297)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:23 AM
Author: Yellow territorial location macaca

except they're not worth that many credits. i'd prefer to take one 4 credit lecture class instead of two 2 credit seminars.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15992589)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 5:06 AM
Author: Poppy At-the-ready Multi-billionaire

you have to do a balance. 2 2 credit classes per semester is probably the right amount. Otherwise you'd need to take like 6 or 7 classes which isn't good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993671)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 5:14 AM
Author: aqua swashbuckling alpha

old profs don't give a fuck about attendance faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993674)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:25 PM
Author: Yellow territorial location macaca

Even that's a lot. Too much reading, especially since you're usually expected to talk in a small seminar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994903)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:30 PM
Author: irate tanning salon police squad

oh come now. you guys really can't figure out how to game it?

Just read a few pages of the reading and be sure to jump in with that info during class... then go back to web surf mode. Mission accomplished.

Last semester I took 4 seminars. 4 papers was rough at the end, but so much easier than 4 exams. Got ridiculously good grades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994946)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:31 PM
Author: Supple party of the first part

So far it seems like many seminars have light reading, and you don't even need to do the reading to contribute to the discussion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994959)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:32 PM
Author: irate tanning salon police squad

Also true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994977)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 7:00 AM
Author: floppy bistre incel people who are hurt

After 1L classes, there's no set grade distribution at my school.

Btw, even if your school does curve upper class exams, isn't the curve a B+?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15993709)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:22 PM
Author: Supple party of the first part

This is not how it works at my school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994871)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:15 PM
Author: irate tanning salon police squad

1L: under median

3L: Stone

Yeah, seminars are the way to go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994814)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:18 PM
Author: wine well-lubricated dysfunction personal credit line

Yeah, I wish I had discovered seminars, too. I am always a sucker for those "real" classes where you supposedly learn something. My grades 2L year sucked anyway, and I didn't get a SA, so I figure at this point I'm not getting a law job anyway, so it doesn't matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15994838)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 1:34 PM
Author: sapphire house

i fucking HATE seminars.... having to actually participate in these terrible bullshit classes is torture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15995007)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:31 PM
Author: Henna piazza

I tried this strategy out and ended up in a tightly curved class where 40% of the students were on law review. That ended up being my worst grade of 2L. I'm not going to risk that again. I'm sticking to core classes where I know how to pwn.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15995930)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:48 PM
Author: floppy bistre incel people who are hurt

Seminars aren't curved generally. What school do you attend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996035)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:50 PM
Author: Henna piazza

It wasn't a mandatory curve. The prof. was just hardcore about grading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996042)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:51 PM
Author: floppy bistre incel people who are hurt

What grade did you get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996048)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:52 PM
Author: Henna piazza

B+

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996051)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:53 PM
Author: floppy bistre incel people who are hurt

LOL, yea bro, that's just terrible!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996056)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 3:55 PM
Author: Henna piazza

For a non-core upper level class, it really is. That's the sort of grade I'd get if I took a core class, skipped 100% of the classes, and studied for 5 hours the night before the final.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996077)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 4:01 PM
Author: nudist dilemma

Reality!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996124)



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Date: September 8th, 2010 4:11 PM
Author: Henna piazza

You're right. Getting median grades during 2L/3L is back breaking work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#15996193)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 10:59 AM
Author: cyan national

hahaha youre so full of yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16002696)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:50 AM
Author: Henna piazza

My post was hyperbolic, obviously, but it's not much of an exaggeration. As long as you don't seriously fuck something up on an exam, you're pretty much guaranteed at least a B+. This is especially true during 2L/3L when 1/3 or more of the class has checked out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16002966)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:12 PM
Author: Supple party of the first part

Not ITE man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003114)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:24 PM
Author: Henna piazza

Slacking is probably a function of placement ITE. My school is doing okay, so there's still a decent number of students who shoot for a gentleman's B. I imagine there's more competition elsewhere, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003154)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 10:51 AM
Author: twinkling contagious crackhouse

at our school (at T25), the upper-class seminars are curved B+/A-. if there are realy very few people in a seminar (like 5), then the curve might be higher.

nevertheless, upper class exam classes also have noticeably higher curves. so a lot of us do not really go for seminars because they involve much more work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16002656)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:52 AM
Author: Vibrant pearl rigor

So a bunch of unemployed people with shitlaw 1L grades who couldn't get jerbs are now "gaming" the system by taking even more worthless crap classes that will further disable their ability to find employment, and given their grades probably mean they'll fail the bar when they can't figure out evidence or agency?

My how XO has fallen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16002982)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:55 AM
Author: twinkling contagious crackhouse

to a certain extent evidence is a far easier class than those worthless 'crap' class. evidence is not hard to figure out by yourself anyway. some poeple just dont like the curve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003000)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:56 AM
Author: Vibrant pearl rigor

fair but i'm mocking op's shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003014)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:56 AM
Author: Henna piazza

Taking classes to prep for the bar is decidedly NOT prestigious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003013)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 11:57 AM
Author: Vibrant pearl rigor

If you have shit 1L grades, you've gotta fucking hussle. And they shouldn't be trolling XO giving advice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003019)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:12 PM
Author: Supple party of the first part

OP here, I HAVE a job. 1L grades were decent. I just sort of wish I hadn't crashed my 2L GPA by taking no seminars at all, unlike everyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003108)



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Date: September 9th, 2010 12:16 PM
Author: twinkling contagious crackhouse

there's a seminar at our school. it was fully registered. then the prof sent out an email saying that we had to turn in a 3 page paper every week based on the readings. half of the class dropped out. a few people remained.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1417477&forum_id=2#16003129)