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Why don't American schools use the Oxford tutorial system?
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:28 PM Author: clear provocative philosopher-king stage Too expensive? Different educational philosophy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677577) |
Date: May 12th, 2012 5:28 PM Author: Citrine mood dilemma Because American undergrads are retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677583) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:30 PM Author: clear provocative philosopher-king stage At elite schools? I'm just surprised there aren't one or two schools that would offer this model. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677597) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:32 PM Author: Citrine mood dilemma I think one of the good LAC's has this Amherst or something maybe Williams, maybe Swarthmore |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:33 PM Author: burgundy lodge pls tell me what there is to gain from teaching intro microeconomics 1 on 1? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677620) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:34 PM Author: Citrine mood dilemma Idk Effective learning? |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:36 PM Author: burgundy lodge consider how much more it costs to educate first year retards in small groups
it's just a huge money drain for oxbridge |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:39 PM Author: Citrine mood dilemma It's probably their only selling point vs. top American schools (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677663) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: burgundy lodge maybe, but it's a total waste of money.
they're not really competing with HYP for undergrads anyway |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:47 PM Author: flatulent candlestick maker u: insecure ttt alum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677709) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:50 PM Author: burgundy lodge i can't resist the bait
fairly prestigious ug, but still kind of mad about my oxford rejection |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:52 PM Author: flatulent candlestick maker the only baiting itt is u masturbating, faggot. pwned!!!!!~ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677736) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:53 PM Author: burgundy lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677744) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:33 PM Author: nudist transparent house Swarthmore has it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677623) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:51 PM Author: Flesh Senate Black Woman gtfo really? they're brochures always impressed me when i was looking at colleges (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677729) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:59 PM Author: curious poppy trump supporter hissy fit r i g o r (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677795) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:31 PM Author: nudist transparent house My upper div classes were essentially 2-4 people tutorials/seminars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677599) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:31 PM Author: burgundy lodge because it's a massive waste of money
4 on 1s for intro or even intermediate courses - what's the point?
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:31 PM Author: 180 idiotic dog poop ticket booth too many men touching boys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677607) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:33 PM Author: curious poppy trump supporter hissy fit One of the distinctive features of a Williams education is modeled after the tutorial systems at both, Oxford and Cambridge Universities; which is rare in American higher education. Although tutorials at Williams were originally aimed at upperclassmen, the faculty voted in 2001 to expand the tutorial program.[35] There is now a diverse offering of tutorials, spanning many disciplines, including math and the sciences, that cater to students of all class years. In 2009-2010 alone, 62 tutorials are offered in 21 departments.[36] Enrollment for tutorials is capped at 10 students, who are then divided into five pairs that meet separately with the professor once a week. Each week, one of the students writes and presents a 5-7 page paper while the other student critiques it. The same pair reverses roles for the next week. The professor takes a more limited role than in a traditional lecture class, and usually allows students to steer and guide the direction of the conversation.
Student course evaluations for tutorials are typically very high. In a survey of alumni who had taken tutorials, more than 80% found their tutorials to be "the most valuable of my courses" at Williams.[37] |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:34 PM Author: light crotch the english system emphasizes producing polished speakers. the tutorials are like pressure-cooker rap sessions, that teach kids how to talk extemporaneously/eloquently, in that hyper-facile english way (like Christopher Hitchens, etc).
american system emphasizes treating everything according to the bureaucratic/business model. class/lectures are like powerpoint presentations. you acquire the "skills," the bundles of "info," and you continue to speak like a rube, because we don't do eloquence (we are too "populist"). |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:37 PM Author: burgundy lodge lol, not really.
americans are the best extemporaneous speakers/bullshiters |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:52 PM Author: light crotch no they are not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677735) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:53 PM Author: burgundy lodge nah, they are. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677747) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:56 PM Author: light crotch nah faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677769) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:03 PM Author: burgundy lodge my university (not american) was stuffed full of yanks. they can talk shit like no one else (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677832) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:05 PM Author: flatulent candlestick maker u went to a ttt. if you were at oxford u'd have seen a mass of public school faggots bred to talk in oxford union format. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677853) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:08 PM Author: burgundy lodge lol prole, vast majority of oxford students are just average schmucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677875) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:10 PM Author: flatulent candlestick maker u jelly, plus i didn't say they were smart, only that they're trained to speak a certain way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677908) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:17 PM Author: burgundy lodge oh no, they are very smart but unremarkable in person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677964) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:09 PM Author: wonderful church watch sessions from the house of commons on cspan, then watch sessions from the US senate. it's not even close. the british dudes are debating and making arguments on the fly while the americans sound retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677884) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:10 PM Author: burgundy lodge house of commons is pure comedy. they don't take that shit seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677905) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:37 PM Author: curious poppy trump supporter hissy fit It's extremely easy to be sucked into the dominant culture. It's very appealing. And the people don't look like bad people. You don't want to sit there and insult them. You try to be friends, and you are. You begin to conform, to adapt, to smooth off the harsher edges. Education at a place like Harvard is in fact largely geared to that, to a remarkable extent. I was a graduate student there. There was an organization called the Society of Fellows, which is a research outfit that selects a couple of people from all fields over the year. It was a remarkable opportunity to work. You had all the facilities of Harvard available and basically no responsibilities. Your only responsibilities were to show up for a dinner every Monday night which was sort of modelled on the Oxford-Cambridge high table. You spent the evening at the dinner with a couple of senior faculty members and other distinguished people. The purpose of that was basically socialization. You had to learn how to drink port and how to have polite conversations without talking about serious topics, but of course indicating that you could talk about serious topics if you were so vulgar as to actually do it. There's a whole set of mannerisms. In those days you had to learn how to wear British clothes. That was the appropriate affectation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677645) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:41 PM Author: nudist transparent house Ow do you like them apples. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677674) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:01 PM Author: light crotch Chomsky graduated in 1897 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677808) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:05 PM Author: curious poppy trump supporter hissy fit "in those days"
HYP definitely have a long history of oxbridge envy. it's evolved a bit since then. |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:48 PM Author: Godawful laser beams stage Come on white people, take the plunge, send your kids to where they're the minority. Because what the article misses is that those all white schools are actually the real lie. Those all white or majority white schools ill-prepare those kids for the reality that most of the world isn't white. But our system likes to make them think that white is elite and white is normal, but that's just an illusion. Explore needs white kids and other "minorities" and white kids need explore. This whole black white thing needs to be gone yesterday, but unless people will get over differences in dancing, hair styles, and slang, and create better education that reflects reality, the US will continue to slip away from the egalitarian and diverse society it should be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677711) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 6:45 PM Author: cracking hospital cumskin lol wtf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20678212) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:49 PM Author: well-lubricated shrine *reads Wikipedia article on cambridge*
*explains what's wrong with American colleges* |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 5:59 PM Author: Flesh Senate Black Woman lulz i had no fucking clue wtf it was (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20677787) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 7:24 PM Author: clear provocative philosopher-king stage I saw videos on YouTube. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20678486) |
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Date: May 12th, 2012 7:27 PM Author: maniacal place of business boistinker don't american universities have recitations? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1947045&forum_id=2#20678515) |