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:D, Your Prediction with the Individual Mandate this Month?
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Date: June 14th, 2012 5:26 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference What is it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20887917) |
Date: June 14th, 2012 5:28 PM Author: Motley range friendly grandma 2 say the court can't rule until someone's been affected by it 3 say it's legal 4 say it's illegal
Stuck down 4-3-2 |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:49 PM Author: Seedy Persian Factory Reset Button hahahahaa, you need 5 votes. the Court can't do anything by plurality. guess they don't teach you that in your basement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888369) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:54 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference Nice pointer, brother. Basic point that any 1'l would know. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888409) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:04 PM Author: Seedy Persian Factory Reset Button I don't think there will be any votes to say they don't have jurisdiction. back in march, I was really pissed off at barnett/fed soc faggots, so I was all like, "oh kennedy asked your side some tough questions too," but I listened to the argument again and it did sound like there's about a 70/30 chance they'll invalidate, 5-4. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888484) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:35 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference But don't you think your assuming that the tenor of oral arguments actually has some relationship to the actual decision-making of the Justices? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888737) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:36 PM Author: Seedy Persian Factory Reset Button yeah, I am assuming that, and it does. I listen to just about every oral argument, and occasionally I'm surprised by a vote or two when opinions come out, but not too often. Scalia's vote in Elgin this week was a bit surprising (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888749) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:43 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference Are you predicting Sotomayor will side with Arizona? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888802) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:46 PM Author: Seedy Persian Factory Reset Button oh I wasn't really paying attention, they challenged, what, 3 sections and some seemed safer than others. on the one most of the argument was about, it almost seemed like there was unanimity. verrilli was just getting ripped apart, and scalia was so hostile and, as julia would say, sardonic that verrilli just started ignoring him. anyway I'm way more interested in Alvarez and First Am. Financial, (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888821) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:47 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference how u think Alvarez will come out? Given the Court's strict first amendment adherence, I think he will win and get his conviction reversed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888828) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:14 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur which 3 do you think will want to uphold? I'm not sure RBG will. Kagan certainly will. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888553) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:23 PM Author: Seedy Persian Factory Reset Button confirmed retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888623) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:24 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur (low iq-schtick) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888637) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:35 PM Author: Seedy Persian Factory Reset Button (literally retarded schtick) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888735) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:35 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur then say something substantive faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888745) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:36 PM Author: Seedy Persian Factory Reset Button you said ginsburg might vote against the mandate. nuff said. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888753) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:37 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference impossible that Ginsburg will find against the mandate. 100% impossible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888758) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:44 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur based purely on partisan lines? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888806) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:45 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference Based on familiarity with her judicial opinions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888819) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:51 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur i think she has about a year of life left and this is going to be one of her last if not her last seminal decision. Just because she's kept comparatively quiet during oral argument (she was probably asleep) and she's gone along with expanding CC power in the past, doesn't mean it's 100% sure thing this time, like it will be with Kagan and Sotomayer, and probably Breyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888867) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:55 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference You seem dumb. She wasn't quite. Go back and read the transcripts, jackass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888899) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 8:03 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur i seem dumb? you're the guy who doesn't even have a grasp on the economics of the law. I'm the one who educated you below, fuckwad. watch your mouth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888962) |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 8:33 PM Author: Indigo razzmatazz trust fund azn u r literally retarded brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#21260733) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:37 PM Author: Motley range friendly grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888296) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:42 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference Any chance it might be upheld? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888318) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:47 PM Author: Motley range friendly grandma Sure, if Kennedy is intellectually fraudulent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888356) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:48 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference How? Comstock bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888365) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:38 PM Author: Stimulating unholy property sound barrier M
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:50 PM Author: Grizzly violent mexican menage Obamacare=niggershit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888375) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:51 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference (Mad as Fuck reptile) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888389) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:54 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur you realize obamacare is just a wealth transfer to boomers (olds on average to need more HC than youngs), right? youngs, on the left and the right, should be uniting against it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888408) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:54 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference Explain or link for elaboration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888411) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:56 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur It was devised as a plan to alleviate pressure on Medicare once the retirement deluge begins en masse. By banning discriminatory pricing and enforcing an individual mandate, premiums for olds will drop (thanks to a surge of youngs now subsidizing) which will take pressure off of medicare entitlement claims. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888433) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:57 PM Author: Dun exciting spot This (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888440) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 6:58 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference How will we be subsidizing the olds exactly? I don't see it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888448) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:06 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur With discriminatory pricing, you can charge premiums at different levels of willingness to pay. A young is not willing to pay as much as an old because of 1) budget constraints; and 2) they dont anticipate demanding that much of the service.
If a young will only pay up to 100/mo in premiums before being priced out of the market, and an old will pay 200/mo, discriminatory pricing allows the insurance firm to capture both consumers. As the retirement deluge begins, olds will be demanding more services (because they are getting older and sicker and more sedentary) and most of them will be living off of fixed incomes, impacting their budget constraints. This drives them to seek medicare vouchers to supplement their rising HC costs. Because the fed govt cant fund medicare, they need a way to drive down olds' current premiums, in order to slow down the claims on medicare.
The mandate and non-discriminatory pricing provisions, which are inseparable -- even Obama's lawyers asked for a strikedown of the latter if the former is struck, allow firms to charge the average of these two prices, $150/mo, with the govt setting a penalty higher than the spread (say a $75/mo penalty). This has effectively forces rational youngs to write $50 checks to boomers every month; all done out of the hope but not guarantee that boomers will claim less medicare vouchers and bring down the house.
I say hope and not guarantee because Obamacare, stupidly, focused on coverage instead of costs. And there are very little preventative measures and incentive-shifting (to monitor consumption, etc.) in place to ensure that underlying medicare healthcare costs dont inflate at a rate faster than claims on medicare decrease, which means long-run premiums will rise (for everyone) even more. The ACA is severely structurally flawed. |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:35 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference Thanks. Can you explain insurance exchanges and the fuss about em in the Obamacare legislation? I was reading a NY Times piece yesterday and it was a bit obscure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888744) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:39 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur i haven't read too much on it but it seems like a backdoor for an inevitable single-payer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888785) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:31 PM Author: Swashbuckling henna voyeur (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888702) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:45 PM Author: buck-toothed garnet abode 50/50 -- they either strike it down or they don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888813) |
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Date: June 14th, 2012 7:46 PM Author: magenta field athletic conference source? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#20888822) |
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Date: December 23rd, 2012 8:40 PM Author: Lime adventurous theatre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1970817&forum_id=2#22302080) |