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How do Reduce Costs in Healthcare System?
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Date: June 21st, 2012 3:57 PM Author: Mischievous Wagecucks Voyeur A common reptilian complaint directed against Obamacare is its irresponsible in cost-management. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929704) |
Date: June 21st, 2012 4:03 PM Author: ruddy tank The last year of life is where costs go nuts and the quality of life is awful. It's time for a sober discussion about the necessity of extreme care in the old. Our politics are too demagogued with rhetoric about death panels and euthanasia though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929736) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:05 PM Author: 180 Generalized Bond Brethren so, death panels, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929743) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:11 PM Author: trip mewling stage Cr solution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930153) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:26 PM Author: Bistre weed whacker area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929894) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:09 PM Author: Hairless Forum Hissy Fit stop paying doctors and hospitals so much damn money for so little work. remember that there are medicare rates for every single procedure. Just slash these by 30-40%.
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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:25 PM Author: cerise lodge Greetings, PCPs make WAY too much money for very little work. I went to a new doc w/o my insurance card one time, so I had to submit the final bill to my insurance provider later. So I got the actual "uninsured dood" bill. Bill was over $100 for a 15 minute meeting where the doc LITERALLY just wrote me a three-month refill on blood pressure medication. Not even 15minutes with doc. 5 mins of getting weighed by a nurse, having bp taken, etc; 5 minutes of sitting in cold room alone; 5 minutes of doctor saying 'hi bye here's your script' Reminder: PCPs are, on average, REALLY FUCKING DUMB. Like barely made it into med school, barely passed classes, couldn't get even a remotely decent residency, etc. It's like a Cooley Law grad billing $400/hr to spellcheck your pro se petition. |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:31 PM Author: Hairless Forum Hissy Fit Ding. PCPs are generally the ones who work the most for the least pay. They have to deal with the most people. Very few people pay the "uninsured" rates. Chances are w/ insurance that would have cost like 20 bucks.
Specialist/surgeon rates are absurd, even w/ insurance. |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:42 PM Author: emerald market trust fund vis a vis specialty providers, pcps tend to accommodate higher patient volumes, yes. with this, tho, pcps are making comparatively superficial diagnoses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930313) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:34 PM Author: emerald market trust fund Or like a plumber charging $375/hr. for snaking pipe on Sundays. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930280) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:18 PM Author: hairraiser violent chapel End fantasy of dollar one coverage. Encourage catastrophic policies. Introduced sensible market based reforms that introduce competition (e.g. end absurd prohibitions on selling insurance across state lines) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:28 PM Author: floppy amber sound barrier unleash FREEDOM! and INNOVATION and CAPITALISM to SAVE all uninsured Americans from socialist Obamacare DEATH!
- President Romney |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:29 PM Author: kink-friendly impertinent locale the state of georgia did that - it failed:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/01/georgia-cross-state-health-insurance-sales-law-a-major-bust/ |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:33 PM Author: hairraiser violent chapel You didn't actually read that article did you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20929940) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 4:37 PM Author: Concupiscible slate fanboi nix fats nix malpractice lawyers nix rent seeking medical professionals nix new innovative practices that cost 10x more than old ones but are only 1% better nix intensive end of life care, if 100,000 isn't going to save you, you're done unless you can pay out of pocket nix health insurance if you swallow more than some amount of fat per year or if you exercise less than 4 days a week |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:04 PM Author: misunderstood geriatric tanning salon Death panels
No extraordinary care over 80
No medmal damages possible
Lifetime cap of 150k
Single payer system
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:10 PM Author: ocher lascivious mother lifetime cap of $150K? that's like one trauma hawk ride or 2 years of cancer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930147) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:11 PM Author: ruddy tank I think he means pain and suffering, consortium, etc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930154) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:11 PM Author: ocher lascivious mother no i think he means bills. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930158) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:13 PM Author: Concupiscible slate fanboi maybe he meant annual, even that could do a lot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930166) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:20 PM Author: Hideous range Have every BABYBOOMER jump off their nearest bridge.
fixed. |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:20 PM Author: Clear Aromatic Stage nationalize health care (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930208) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:44 PM Author: aqua center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930323) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:35 PM Author: Erotic yellow goal in life boistinker don't fuck with it i'm applying to med $chool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1975792&forum_id=2#20930281) |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:46 PM Author: comical laser beams Increase supply of doctors. Increase supply of nurses. Increase the amount of work nurses can do. $100k yearly caps on people 80 or older. |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:47 PM Author: zippy hominid how about basic universal coverage for everyone with high deductibles
if you want extra high tech shit you have to pay out of pocket
if you want life extending type care after age 85 you have to pay out of pocket
open more med schools; lower standards; train more nurses; negotiate for lower prescription drug prices; make med mal best practices safe harbors; disincentive docs from elective practices somehow
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:49 PM Author: stimulating henna church double fault Stop subsidizing medical services. Stop regulating nurses out of jobs to protect doctors. Stop subsidizing medical schools. Require public posting of rates for services. |
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Date: June 21st, 2012 5:51 PM Author: claret sexy national jewess Create a national single payer system that covers the first $1,000 and everything over $20,000 per year. Then let people either pay for the $19,000 (if needed) or get an additional private insurance to pay for it.
The desired effect would be that health care consumers would actually know how much their care costs and would be more selective. Hopefully this would encourage competition and innovation, while not subjecting everyone with a major medical problem to bankruptcy. |