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Date: August 3rd, 2012 6:16 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse See previous. http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=1839838&mc=202&forum_id=2&PHPSESSID=4a95c6e41def7b37d4034265db071ab7
I am on emergency chargin duty while hte rest of the office at a conference. Hopefully you all can waste the rest of my day, so I can hit dat weekend. |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 3:21 PM Author: Fishy striped hyena Hey dots and commas, Im a young ADA, looking to transition to the federal level as well. What advice can you share? How are you going about looking for an AUSA job? any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. |
Date: August 3rd, 2012 6:24 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21252984) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 6:26 PM Author: Cerise Hall How many unethical prosecutors do u know?
Wh not just turn over all material over to the defense? |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 6:29 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse I don't know any unethical ones. I know lots of lazy ones, and that's where discovery problems happen.
We generally turn everything over. The only exceptions I can think of are things such as victim's address, phone numbers, etc and things like informants who have an ongoing relationship with the police. There is very specific case law on that stuff, though. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 6:40 PM Author: Cerise Hall So why is Brady even an issue? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253107) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 6:41 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse It shouldn't be, but there are always legal line-drawing questions. For example if we know about surveillance but it is not in our possession, do we have an obligation to get it from who has it and turn it over or is it the defendant's job to find it on his own? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253119) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 6:42 PM Author: Histrionic Hyperventilating Corner Windowlicker do you like your job? future career hopes? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253126) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 6:45 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse I like the work I do, but is gets harder evey day to stay. I make the same as the day I started in 2007 and my patience for that has a short shelf-life.
I wanted to be an AUSA when I first got out of law school, and am starting to apply for those jobs. Otherwise, may insurance defense, something like that. I'm not ready to completely sell out and go criminal defense yet. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 6:46 PM Author: Histrionic Hyperventilating Corner Windowlicker what do you think of the movie The Lincoln Lawyer? why do you think of criminal defense as selling out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253157) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 6:49 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse Movie was a fun story, but not remotely realistic. I'm just a point where I am ready to help make the streets more dangerous, fake indignation about police not doing DNA testig when there is a confession, etc. But my desire to stay in my current job is gong downhill fast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253182) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:05 PM Author: Charcoal provocative gaping The part where he gets the prosecutor and judge to continue the hearing because his client hasn't paid him was pretty realistic, tho. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253710) |
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Date: August 5th, 2012 1:01 AM Author: heady unhinged coldplay fan area 1-fucking-80.
In my cases, it is almost guarenteed that the attorney is going to ask for a continuance, simply so the client can cough up the necessary dough. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:02 PM Author: titillating black selfie space No cola? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253250) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:04 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse Nope. Not shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253266) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:05 PM Author: titillating black selfie space How is this possible? Have you spoken to anyone about this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253272) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:09 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse Our elected boss has to ask the county coard for more money. They are all crazy Republicans who won't raise taxes, so there is no money to be had. No one at my office has had a raise since 2007. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253304) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:04 PM Author: Flushed Orchestra Pit what do you think of the PDs in your counties, as compared to the private crim defense bar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253263) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:06 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse PD are all types. Some of them are the truest of believers and don't have to hustle to get clients, make money etc, so they are idealogues, which gets annoying. Other are just there for the government check, won't force stuff to trial, etc. Privates are usually more annoying becuase you don't know the that well, and they file all sorts of frivilous shit to justify their fees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253279) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:06 PM Author: Vigorous pistol Brother, I stand behind you. I know the frustration of not making enough money and having a constant deluge of work. I offer you this thought: those who go to insurance defense shops are infinitely more unhappy than you are. I hope you get an AUSA position. That will appeal to what you find interesting, the pace will likely be slower, and the pay much better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253274) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:08 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse Interesting. I just got done trying a case that made national news, so I'm extra pissy about the no $$$. Part of me says if I work like a mule, I should be paid accordingly. The other says I'm a whiner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253297) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:40 PM Author: amber locale nowag technically, you are paid like a mule (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253546) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:06 PM Author: Charcoal provocative gaping insurance defense unless its at a big firm that does it as part of their general commercial practice is SHIT PURE SHIT. Even then, there's an odor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253717) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:17 PM Author: smoky razzle step-uncle's house Insurance defense is annoying because the rates are low and the insurance will pay for almost anything you do regardless of how frivolous. So u get stuck doing all this bullshit make work even more so than a normal client (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253844) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:18 PM Author: Charcoal provocative gaping right, i've heard horror stories from bros. complete make work at best and outright billing fraud at worst. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253855) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:21 PM Author: smoky razzle step-uncle's house I'm staffed on one id case it is pure hell. I'm constantly told to do shit like summarize every document we have (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253873) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:29 PM Author: Charcoal provocative gaping that sounds horrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253946) |
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Date: August 4th, 2012 3:41 PM Author: Vigorous pistol Me too, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21258400) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 7:44 PM Author: Histrionic Hyperventilating Corner Windowlicker how do you feel prosecuting drug charges? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253579) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:02 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse I don't really do that anymore. I have a different specialization. It didn't bother me at the time. It still doesn't. So much other crime is fueled by drugs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253688) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:04 PM Author: Histrionic Hyperventilating Corner Windowlicker tell a story about your favorite moment during a trial (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253704) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:23 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse My favorite story would out me because of the national news thing. But a second favorite is this arrogant guy who didn't think his abuse victim would show. She did and lied for him. I impeached her with her recording. he got convicted. When they read the verdict, he threw a water bottle at the jury and yelled, "Fuck you how are you going to convict me? I got kids motherfuckers." He ran out of the courtroom and got his face planted into the sidewalk by court security. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253893) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:52 PM Author: Histrionic Hyperventilating Corner Windowlicker bad guy, huh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21254135) |
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Date: August 5th, 2012 1:03 AM Author: heady unhinged coldplay fan area Nice... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21262127) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:07 PM Author: Charcoal provocative gaping pro-legalization? The link to other crime is why I'm pro-legalization. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253721) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:20 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse Weed should be legal under all cricumstances. Hard drugs should be decriminalized in a big way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253863) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:15 PM Author: smoky razzle step-uncle's house How hard is it to cop one of these jobs for a bro with one to two yrs firm experience. How many hrs do u work per week. How are your supervisors are they serious assholes like most firm partners?
Btw I would seriously recommend going to a firm where a partner will be on your ass to squeeze every past billable out of you. It would be a rude awakening I imagine coming from a nice govt gig |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:18 PM Author: Charcoal provocative gaping the biglaw model is such shit. Too bad it is replicated down the line in private practice with less compensation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253851) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:19 PM Author: smoky razzle step-uncle's house Especially now that so many ex biglaw dudes have opened their own little mini sweatshops where they pay their associates shit but work them the same as the biglaw counterparts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253860) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:25 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse Not at all if there are openings. That's the thing about State offices. There has been a hiring freeze for the better part of 5 years.
I work 50-60, twice that if in trial. Some supers are assholes; some handsoff. It just depends on the personality. But there is a chance to get on a power trip for the wrong type of asshole. |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:50 PM Author: smoky razzle step-uncle's house Damn this doesn't sound like a very chill job at all man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21254114) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:16 PM Author: odious pontificating police squad hunting ground PROTIP: Nancy Grace is not national news. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253830) |
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Date: August 3rd, 2012 8:30 PM Author: salmon marvelous bawdyhouse I'm out doods. Thanks for killing the clock. Might check in later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2013801&forum_id=2#21253954) |
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Date: August 5th, 2012 1:13 AM Author: Ruby round eye factory reset button How important is criminal law, demonstrated interest. etc.?
I.e. can someone who's magna at T14, 1 year Biglaw, generic law civil background compete with some hotshot from the local TTT who's obviously been gunning for DA/crim law his whole life?
And I guess, is this at all the same rigid career path as private firms, where you're either entry level or 3-4 years experienced, and you're outta luck in between? |