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Friend is 2011 grad, he has already been laid off from shitlaw

I feel bad for him. He graduated solidly top 15% from a T1,...
Blathering macaca
  08/07/12
why did he get fired? it's hard to put on an eager face in s...
slippery meetinghouse regret
  08/07/12
They just didn't have the work for him. He's a great employ...
Blathering macaca
  08/07/12
60k is pretty fucking good bro. like twice what i'm making, ...
slippery meetinghouse regret
  08/07/12
He told me 60K...its possible that it was really like 50 or ...
Blathering macaca
  08/07/12
"She asked what market was, he told her 160K, she told ...
Appetizing Ape Community Account
  08/07/12
I really don't know man. I was honestly so shocked when he t...
Blathering macaca
  08/07/12
It sounds like barely anybody gets biglaw there.
Appetizing Ape Community Account
  08/07/12
class of 2011 got way fucked. i mean, some people around hi...
Blathering macaca
  08/07/12
Why didn't he offer to work hourly? Then at least he'd have...
titillating hospital
  08/07/12
I don't think it was on the table. He's getting unemploymen...
Blathering macaca
  08/07/12
He should have asked. It's no skin off the shitlaw firm's b...
titillating hospital
  08/07/12
Maybe too prideful to take such a demotion. The shitlaw fir...
Blathering macaca
  08/07/12
Shitpride cometh before the shitfall.
trip citrine sandwich
  08/07/12
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Blathering macaca
  08/07/12
people get way too attached to false loyalty. your friend...
Histrionic property round eye
  08/07/12
yeah, i'm in shitlaw and still scour job boards every day
slippery meetinghouse regret
  08/07/12
I know man. This is his biggest problem- he kinda needs a g...
Blathering macaca
  08/07/12
Fuck law. :(
Vivacious chrome prole alpha
  08/07/12
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Blathering macaca
  08/07/12
Update- friend found employment about a month ago. He has j...
Blathering macaca
  11/05/12


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Date: August 7th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: Blathering macaca

I feel bad for him. He graduated solidly top 15% from a T1, and now he's unemployed. This was after beginning work at this shit commercial debt collection firm when he was a 1L. Now he's got nothing.

The writing was on the wall, though. He should have always been looking for a new gig. He had little to no work to do for months before he got shitcanned.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279670)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 11:50 AM
Author: slippery meetinghouse regret

why did he get fired? it's hard to put on an eager face in shitlaw, i know from experience.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279673)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 11:52 AM
Author: Blathering macaca

They just didn't have the work for him. He's a great employee and had stayed with them since the beginning of 1L. They almost hired him out of pity, because they always hinted that they had a job for him. It was basically a firm with three really old partners, like in their late 60s/early 70s. There was one other associate with five years in.

His bosses seemed like pretty decent people. He never complained about them, they appreciated him and let him know that. I guess they were actually devastaed they had to let him go.

He should have never settled with this place though. He basically hitched his cart to shit law and didnt' even realize it was shit law or understand the market. When they negotiated for his starting salary, he asked some professor who has never been in private practice what he should ask for.

She asked what market was, he told her 160K, she told him 75% of that. So he actually asked for 120K from an absolute TTT shitlaw firm. They nicely told him 60K was the most he could do, and he accepted it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279679)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 11:56 AM
Author: slippery meetinghouse regret

60k is pretty fucking good bro. like twice what i'm making, and i get no bennies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279688)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 11:57 AM
Author: Blathering macaca

He told me 60K...its possible that it was really like 50 or something and he was too embarassed. I don't really know.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279695)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 12:04 PM
Author: Appetizing Ape Community Account

"She asked what market was, he told her 160K, she told him 75% of that. So he actually asked for 120K from an absolute TTT shitlaw firm."

How the fuck could someone be that clueless?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279722)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: Blathering macaca

I really don't know man. I was honestly so shocked when he told me that went down. My friend and I talked about it and laughed in absolute disbelief.

And LOL at the professor. Proof what a fucking joke law schools are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279741)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 12:11 PM
Author: Appetizing Ape Community Account

It sounds like barely anybody gets biglaw there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279763)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 12:19 PM
Author: Blathering macaca

class of 2011 got way fucked. i mean, some people around his level got it, many did not. it was completely random.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279802)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 11:53 AM
Author: titillating hospital

Why didn't he offer to work hourly? Then at least he'd have a little income and he'd have something on his resume as he looked for a new job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279682)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 11:56 AM
Author: Blathering macaca

I don't think it was on the table. He's getting unemployment at least.

Its fucked up. He's a great guy, got pretty good grades despite working at this firm part time for 2.5 years, beginning DURING 1L year.

In a way, its his fault, because he never aggresively tried to find something better when he had the chance. I know lots of people with his creds that got mid law or decent small law.

Now he has no job. He's gotten some interviews, but no bites yet, and those interviews came when he still was finishing up at shitlaw, as they gave him a full months notice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279690)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 11:57 AM
Author: titillating hospital

He should have asked. It's no skin off the shitlaw firm's back to have him as an hourly employee. Poor guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279696)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: Blathering macaca

Maybe too prideful to take such a demotion. The shitlaw firm didn't offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279711)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 12:20 PM
Author: trip citrine sandwich

Shitpride cometh before the shitfall.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279811)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 12:45 PM
Author: Blathering macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279950)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 11:58 AM
Author: Histrionic property round eye

people get way too attached to false loyalty.

your friend should have been CONSTANTLY hustling for a new job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279697)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 11:59 AM
Author: slippery meetinghouse regret

yeah, i'm in shitlaw and still scour job boards every day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279706)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 12:01 PM
Author: Blathering macaca

I know man. This is his biggest problem- he kinda needs a good job to fall in his lap. This just doesn't happen ITE.

The crazy thing is he'd make a great lawyer- I know absolute IDIOTS that are getting paid 100K plus. Fuck man it sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279718)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 12:00 PM
Author: Vivacious chrome prole alpha

Fuck law. :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21279710)



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Date: August 7th, 2012 7:20 PM
Author: Blathering macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21283065)



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Date: November 5th, 2012 10:12 AM
Author: Blathering macaca

Update- friend found employment about a month ago. He has joined an insurance defense mill, which I believe pays about 70k/year. This is actually a pay upgrade from his shitlaw debt collection firm, which only paid 50k. The bad news is that the insurance firm requires 2000 hours per year, much more than his previous firm. The good news is that he has a soft offer to join a more legitimate, larger insurance firm that pays 110K or so once they start hiring. So i am glad he is employed and hopeful he will actually land in a decent situation soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2017121&forum_id=2#21966796)