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Halp Bros--Old Law Firm Stole My Couch

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started w...
Cracking principal's office
  10/04/12
take it and make him stop you
Excitant set chad
  10/04/12
Lmao!
Hyperactive Vigorous Genital Piercing Corner
  10/04/12
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Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/05/12
what state?
sooty senate background story
  10/04/12
lol
Sapphire Beady-eyed School Cafeteria Gaping
  10/04/12
lol
Naked jap stock car
  10/04/12
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copper stage
  10/04/12
fuckin' steve
marvelous fuchsia faggot firefighter selfie
  10/04/12
shitlaw steve
Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/04/12
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Cheese-eating Windowlicker Bawdyhouse
  05/12/22
If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may hav...
Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/04/12
180
rebellious gay wizard
  10/04/12
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Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/04/12
Lol xoxo
stirring jet-lagged church building queen of the night
  10/04/12
The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitl...
electric green location
  10/05/12
Couches aren't fixtures of any type.
Jade French Coldplay Fan
  10/05/12
Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shit...
Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/05/12
This is so 180. Well done.
Puce public bath double fault
  10/05/12
tyty
Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/05/12
180
floppy meetinghouse
  10/05/12
180
internet-worthy resort
  08/22/13
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Appetizing theater stage
  05/27/17
Bigfinderskeeperslaw
Slate comical plaza cumskin
  07/19/17
180 if real, 180 if not real
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  10/05/12
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Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/05/12
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  11/28/12
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Vibrant garnet dopamine business firm
  12/06/13
180 well done.
milky exhilarant rigor brunch
  12/06/13
Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looki...
Naked jap stock car
  05/27/17
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Amethyst fortuitous meteor corn cake
  05/12/22
Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing f...
Curious ruby pit knife
  10/04/12
why do you steal from your employer bro?
Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/04/12
I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I thi...
Curious ruby pit knife
  10/04/12
sweet good luck bro
Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/04/12
thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer
Slate comical plaza cumskin
  10/04/12
It's one of his alts
Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/04/12
Flame.
galvanic ape field
  10/04/12
cr
Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
  10/04/12
You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way ...
Vivacious insecure ladyboy indian lodge
  10/05/12
Fuck yo couch! Buy another one you rich motherfucker! ...
citrine crusty piazza rigpig
  10/05/12
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Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain
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supple institution idiot
  05/27/17
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#pwned
  10/31/26
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internet-worthy resort
  12/06/13
Please sue. Best law suit ever.
Naked jap stock car
  05/27/17
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razzle vermilion volcanic crater crotch
  07/19/17
lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your...
histrionic elite digit ratio rehab
  07/19/17
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Cheese-eating Windowlicker Bawdyhouse
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お尻のほっぺた
  10/31/26


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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: Cracking principal's office

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started with this firm, I purchased a couch to nap on between 2pm and 3pm each day, schedule permitting. I was packing up my office last weekend and brought a friend along to help move the couch out. The partner happened to be there and said "not so fast, that's my couch." I calmly explained I had purchased it and brought it in to the office to nap on. He called it an "abandoned fixture" and said under some county ordinance it belonged to him. Halp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716858)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:14 PM
Author: Excitant set chad

take it and make him stop you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717732)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:50 PM
Author: Hyperactive Vigorous Genital Piercing Corner

Lmao!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719984)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain



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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: sooty senate background story

what state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716895)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:23 PM
Author: Sapphire Beady-eyed School Cafeteria Gaping

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717373)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:30 PM
Author: Naked jap stock car

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717412)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:35 PM
Author: copper stage



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:39 PM
Author: marvelous fuchsia faggot firefighter selfie

fuckin' steve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717460)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:17 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain

shitlaw steve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719624)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:18 PM
Author: Cheese-eating Windowlicker Bawdyhouse



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:46 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain

If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may have a right to the furniture. The common law rule is that whatsoever is fixed to the realty is thereby made a part of the realty to which it adheres. However, the new, prevailing rule is that tenants may remove whatever they install for the purpose of carrying on a trade (i.e. trade fixtures), provided that they can be uninstalled without injury to the premises, and that such removal is effected before they yield possession of the premises. Arguably, the couch was a trade fixture--you put it in your office for the purpose of aiding you in carrying on your trade as a lawyer. Given that you can remove it without injury to the premises, and because you haven't completely yielded possession of the premises, I think you have a colorable claim that you have a right to that couch, notwithstanding any extant ordinances. The rationale behind this rule is that it is conducive to trade and commerce. The tenant installs things for the benefit of carrying on his trade, not to enhance the landlord's realty.

You should also be aware that there are other theories that may be applied to these circumstances, depending on what jurisdiction you're in. There is the institutional theory: additions to the realty become a part of an economic unit, and therefore become the landlord's property.

I sincerely xoxohth. Let me know if you have any questions or if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717502)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:08 PM
Author: rebellious gay wizard

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717675)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718985)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: stirring jet-lagged church building queen of the night

Lol xoxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718995)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:11 AM
Author: electric green location

The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitlaw firm is some sort of coöp structured like a salon where you rent your own chair/office. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720779)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 4:26 AM
Author: Jade French Coldplay Fan

Couches aren't fixtures of any type.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720974)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:46 AM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain

Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shitlaw steve, I would bring multiple claims if I was helping OP get his couch back. The aforesaid analysis is merely a possible argument if my other more cogent arguments fail. Look at it as a sort of quasi-landlord-tenant argument, perhaps. Surely, though, there is an argument to be made under the doctrine of finders. Let’s see what that analysis would look like, shall we? The rule of finders is that the finder of property has a right to that property against all the world except the true owner or prior possessor. In this case, OP is the true owner and prior possessor. Therefore, his boss does not have a right to that property. However, bossman is claiming that OP abandoned the couch. In order for one to abandon something, there must be an act of abandonment and intent to abandon. I’ll go ahead and concede that there was an act of abandonment; there is surely an argument that there was. However, OP never intended to abandon the property, as evidenced by his return to the premises in order to retrieve said property. Therefore, the property was not abandoned. Thus, again, OP has a colorable claim that he has a right to that couch.

Again, I sincerely xoxohth. Do let me know if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721355)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:05 PM
Author: Puce public bath double fault

This is so 180. Well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722470)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:06 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain

tyty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723397)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:17 PM
Author: floppy meetinghouse

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723458)



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Date: August 22nd, 2013 11:20 PM
Author: internet-worthy resort

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#23915695)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: Appetizing theater stage



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:11 PM
Author: Slate comical plaza cumskin

Bigfinderskeeperslaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809764)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 7:07 AM
Author: Bearded parlor immigrant

180 if real, 180 if not real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721095)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:39 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723576)



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Date: November 28th, 2012 10:30 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#22130665)



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:34 AM
Author: Vibrant garnet dopamine business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579596)



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Date: December 6th, 2013 2:24 PM
Author: milky exhilarant rigor brunch

180 well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24581212)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Naked jap stock car

Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looking for here is manifestly mislaid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409172)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:24 PM
Author: Amethyst fortuitous meteor corn cake



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Curious ruby pit knife

Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing felony jail time if they added up all the office supplies I stole over the years.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718998)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain

why do you steal from your employer bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719060)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: Curious ruby pit knife

I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I think I'm kinda planning to build a yacht out of post-its.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719075)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain

sweet good luck bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719119)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Slate comical plaza cumskin

thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719117)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain

It's one of his alts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719163)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:19 PM
Author: galvanic ape field

Flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719634)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:43 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain

cr

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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:18 AM
Author: Vivacious insecure ladyboy indian lodge

You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way is a couch a fixture. In no way have you abandoned it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721248)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: citrine crusty piazza rigpig

Fuck yo couch!

Buy another one you rich motherfucker!

Darkness is! Darkness is!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722501)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 6:42 PM
Author: Trip Honey-headed Factory Reset Button Stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21725143)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: supple institution idiot



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Date: October 31st, 2026 12:34 PM
Author: #pwned



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:29 AM
Author: internet-worthy resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579568)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: Naked jap stock car

Please sue. Best law suit ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409168)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: razzle vermilion volcanic crater crotch



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:33 PM
Author: histrionic elite digit ratio rehab

lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your an employee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809893)



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Date: August 28th, 2021 12:54 PM
Author: Cheese-eating Windowlicker Bawdyhouse



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Date: October 31st, 2026 2:00 PM
Author: お尻のほっぺた (βœ…πŸ‘)



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