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Girl I know refusing to see Zero Dark Thirty because it's shrewy

She says "I don't mind the idea of the torture scenes, ...
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
This "girl" doesn't exist.
180 pervert
  01/26/13
According to Mark Owen, a SEAL on the raid, said that the CI...
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
Which is neither here nor there. Making the movie about LOO...
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
The point is that it's accurate, you idiot. Are you saying t...
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
180 and anyway, the chick had plenty of problems. she was a ...
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
The girl had major psychological problems. When a colleague ...
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
lol
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
This scene was also verbatim. She was a psycho bitch who tol...
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
how the fuck is that "psycho"? you understand the...
Offensive Stage Quadroon
  01/26/13
"The girl had major psychological problems. When a coll...
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
Twist: God killed the colleague to motivate her.
Stimulating state telephone
  01/26/13
So, religious = major psychological problems? Oh wait, th...
Hateful sickened whorehouse
  01/26/13
Yeah, religious=dumb, not psycho.
180 pervert
  01/26/13
Haven't seen the movie, but this sounds like a smart person.
Hateful sickened whorehouse
  01/26/13
Her voice sounds odd in that clip.
bronze beta shrine
  01/27/13
Which is why a lot of girls I know who don't know this aspec...
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
But she was realistic in that regard. Aspies hate a movie be...
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
But the message of the movie seemed to be that we should adm...
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
The bitch tracked Bin Laden down. That deserves admiration.
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
So she can't be both respectable and somewhat fucked up? You...
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
Most people who have done notable things are somewhat fucked...
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
People didn't respect her because she was right and they wer...
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
Well, no one I know liked the movie because the heroine was ...
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
Are you complaining about Bigelow or about the actual IRL ch...
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
The actual IRL chick. See, this is the problem with feminis...
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
So just to be clear, your problem is with women performing r...
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
Most people think that's the bigger problem in society, yes....
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
So... to repeat, this isn't about Zero Dark Thirty at all. P...
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
No, but it's just hits a bit closer to home with people I kn...
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
Portrayal of IRL in art is "feminist propaganda". ...
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
op and his friends are idiots.
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
Lot of roundabout dishonest post hoc reasoning by op to cove...
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
OP is an idiot; his "friends" don't exist. No one...
180 pervert
  01/26/13
I just wish the movie would have been made in a way that was...
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
"unlike some of my female friends who thought the movie...
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
Well, if the character of Maya is a composite based on the i...
shimmering house-broken spot foreskin
  01/26/13
you = OP. and your post is incoherent.
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
Not a composite. The real agent was a girl. Get over it.
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
Best post ITT. He seems maf that the agent was female and i...
180 pervert
  01/26/13
outed as a villager
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
I live in a major city.
lavender new version native
  01/26/13
you have the mind of a simpleton and the mother you're frien...
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
These "female friends" don't exist. It seems li...
180 pervert
  01/26/13
Seriously. I don't get this guy's problem. He's pissed off...
180 pervert
  01/26/13
its on the run. shes psychotic and extremely insecure. she...
painfully honest address partner
  01/26/13
She was immensely unlikeable. Being completely unhinged is o...
translucent sneaky criminal
  01/26/13
Why? You sound kinda insecure.
180 pervert
  01/26/13
The girl from Zero Dark Thirty wasn't a girl at all. htt...
Haunting Abusive Selfie
  01/26/13
this is so poorly written it doesn't even make sense.
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
Navy SEAL Mark Owen says it was a girl.
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
I'm seeing this too. We were discussing what movie to watch...
shimmering house-broken spot foreskin
  01/26/13
something tells me these women do not exist beyond the xo vi...
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
Are you a girl? You sound angry.
shimmering house-broken spot foreskin
  01/26/13
Not a chick. Why did you decide to switch pumos, OP?
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
Not OP. And I can smell your vadge from here, chick.
shimmering house-broken spot foreskin
  01/26/13
LOL u and OP just so happen to have the same opinion ITT and...
painfully honest address partner
  01/26/13
and in this one: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=208...
painfully honest address partner
  01/26/13
is that really OTR? wtf is her problem? is she mentally ill?
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
i have no evidence its OTR, it just makes a hell of a lot of...
painfully honest address partner
  01/26/13
...
painfully honest address partner
  06/02/19
women like this might, MIGHT exist. but they'd be a bigger p...
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
Why would they be a bigger problem? They're actually nice, ...
shimmering house-broken spot foreskin
  01/26/13
shouldn't you have signed back into the other pumo to make t...
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
Not the other pumo. What kind of beta men are you guys? ...
shimmering house-broken spot foreskin
  01/26/13
lol beta men. beta because I can handle watching a movie abo...
Primrose Turdskin
  01/26/13
oh yeah, i hear those biglaw/finance chicks have a huge prob...
painfully honest address partner
  01/26/13
THIS.
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
cr
180 pervert
  01/26/13
(OP)
180 pervert
  01/26/13
that literally is the OP: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thre...
painfully honest address partner
  01/26/13
holy shit
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
holy shit. if she's gappy you need to marry her,
Disgusting church patrolman
  01/26/13
this movie is a load of shit. OMG WOMYN WARRIORS stfu
Laughsome insane philosopher-king jew
  01/26/13
Too bad it's real.
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
too bad you're a fag
Laughsome insane philosopher-king jew
  01/26/13
(MAF rapetile)
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  01/26/13
you're the one expressing hatred towards women here. so who'...
fiercely-loyal garrison
  01/26/13
"I just think that the movie should have focused more o...
Nighttime reading party
  01/26/13
...
painfully honest address partner
  01/26/13
Yeah, needed more Coach Taylor.
Stimulating state telephone
  01/26/13
Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, CAN'T LOSE!
translucent sneaky criminal
  01/26/13
stfu OTR
painfully honest address partner
  01/26/13
Wait you're pissed just because the movie is about a woman w...
180 pervert
  01/26/13
I would agree that Bigelow gave the movie a feminine touch, ...
white vigorous national brethren
  01/26/13
OTR/GraceKelly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
Mentally impaired gaped chapel prole
  01/26/13
I find this OP quite difficult to believe.
Big azn
  01/27/13
I'm with the OP. I find these cheesy action flicks that take...
Fragrant carnelian dragon circlehead
  01/27/13
Derpa derpa. The account from the guy who actually shot Bin ...
Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask
  02/15/13
i thought something was missing from the movie, which was a ...
Big-titted thirsty orchestra pit
  02/15/13
OTR bump
painfully honest address partner
  06/02/19


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Date: January 26th, 2013 10:58 AM
Author: lavender new version native

She says "I don't mind the idea of the torture scenes, but I don't like Jessica Chastain's character. I don't want to have one of the greatest triumphs of the USA ruined by being turned into some feminist propaganda."

A lot of people apparently really did not like this movie because they were expecting some major feelgood alpha film about the USA winning the day, and got some film about how unmarried 30something shrews can do anything!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22506932)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:04 PM
Author: 180 pervert

This "girl" doesn't exist.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507736)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:04 AM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

According to Mark Owen, a SEAL on the raid, said that the CIA agent was really the driving force behind the raid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22506957)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:06 AM
Author: lavender new version native

Which is neither here nor there. Making the movie about LOOK AT WHAT SHREWS CAN DO detracts from its power. If anything they should make the operative more like Carrie from Homeland - successful in her mission, but immensely unlikeable and completely unhinged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22506965)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:07 AM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

The point is that it's accurate, you idiot. Are you saying that they should have changed history to make you happy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22506968)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:08 AM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

180 and anyway, the chick had plenty of problems. she was a work obsessed loner. the definitive shrew really.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22506970)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:11 AM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

The girl had major psychological problems. When a colleague was blown up by a double agent, she said that she was spared by God to complete the mission. She also told the SEALs that she didn't like them and had voted to just drop a bomb on Bin Laden.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22506978)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:12 AM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22506985)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:22 AM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

This scene was also verbatim. She was a psycho bitch who told SEAL Team 6 dudes to fuck off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKbpYRRwMLE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507025)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:35 PM
Author: Offensive Stage Quadroon

how the fuck is that "psycho"? you understand these "seals" are not at the top of the chainacommand, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507288)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:56 PM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

"The girl had major psychological problems. When a colleague was blown up by a double agent, she said that she was spared by God to complete the mission."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507363)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:23 PM
Author: Stimulating state telephone

Twist: God killed the colleague to motivate her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507498)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:19 PM
Author: Hateful sickened whorehouse

So, religious = major psychological problems?

Oh wait, this is froodfrood, the unhinged racist extreme far left nut. Have a nice mentally ill day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507790)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:21 PM
Author: 180 pervert

Yeah, religious=dumb, not psycho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507795)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:21 PM
Author: Hateful sickened whorehouse

Haven't seen the movie, but this sounds like a smart person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507801)



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Date: January 27th, 2013 3:28 AM
Author: bronze beta shrine

Her voice sounds odd in that clip.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22511557)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:18 AM
Author: lavender new version native

Which is why a lot of girls I know who don't know this aspect of the story end up leaving the theater disliking the movie. They don't like the central character Maya because they thought she was ultimately someone that decent people couldn't relate to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507012)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:19 AM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

But she was realistic in that regard. Aspies hate a movie because the characters aren't perfect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507016)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:21 AM
Author: lavender new version native

But the message of the movie seemed to be that we should admire Maya, that she was some sort of revered figure. Not some unlikeable shrew that no one really respected.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507021)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:22 AM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

The bitch tracked Bin Laden down. That deserves admiration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507029)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:29 AM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

So she can't be both respectable and somewhat fucked up? You'd still be complaining if they made her a Marissa Mayer type dedicated mother and wife. Either way we "should" admire her. The only way you'd be satisfied if she was a totally unsympathetic monster. Just say that it's hard to accept a pale pretty girl with a buttchin tracking down Bin Laden.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507060)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:32 AM
Author: lavender new version native

Most people who have done notable things are somewhat fucked up. Look at Lance Armstrong for shit's sake (raises a fuckton of money for cancer, cheats shamelessly). I just think that the movie should have focused more on how people didn't really respect her because she was so shrewy. It's like Bigelow tried to make her into this quasi-Ripley character. I hate female action leads for this reason.

I'm just happy so many of my female friends are in the "don't be a shrew" camp. I know some quality women.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507069)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:34 AM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

People didn't respect her because she was right and they were wrong and had to eat shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507078)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:37 AM
Author: lavender new version native

Well, no one I know liked the movie because the heroine was so unsympathetic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507088)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:36 AM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

Are you complaining about Bigelow or about the actual IRL chick? What if she actually WAS a shrivelled vagina Ripley heroine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507083)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:39 AM
Author: lavender new version native

The actual IRL chick. See, this is the problem with feminism. When women actually do heroic stuff, no one likes them or sees them as heroes. At best they see them as cautionary tales. One of my good female friends who has a young daughter says that raising a young daughter really has made her sensitive to the kind of person she wants her daughter to be and the kinds of role models she wants her daughter to be exposed to, and that this movie scared the hell out of her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507095)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:41 AM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

So just to be clear, your problem is with women performing roles like this, not with the movie portraying them doing so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507101)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:48 AM
Author: lavender new version native

Most people think that's the bigger problem in society, yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507115)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:52 AM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

So... to repeat, this isn't about Zero Dark Thirty at all. People are refusing to see it because it (presumably) accurately reflects IRL individuals who lead lives that subvert traditional gender roles. Do these people you know always avoid movies whose characters lead lives they disapprove of?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507132)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:57 AM
Author: lavender new version native

No, but it's just hits a bit closer to home with people I know who are raising very young daughters who understandably don't want their daughters getting it into their minds that Jessica Chastain's character is admirable on any sort of level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507144)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:04 PM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

Portrayal of IRL in art is "feminist propaganda". You started out saying this is a distorted picture of life and someone pushing a feminist ideology. No you're saying that, well, it might be actual IRL but IRL sucks. And you didn't make a distinction between your friends seeing it and their children seeing it. Your adult friends can't handle stuff that handles real things they dislike.

Your friends sound like idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507167)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:11 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

op and his friends are idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507184)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:12 PM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

Lot of roundabout dishonest post hoc reasoning by op to cover up his psychological distress at seeing a pretty pale girl with a butt chin find bin laden

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507187)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:11 PM
Author: 180 pervert

OP is an idiot; his "friends" don't exist. No one gives a shit about this stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507763)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:12 PM
Author: lavender new version native

I just wish the movie would have been made in a way that wasn't trying to make Chastain's character into some kind of hero. I'm fine with her being portrayed as a woman and all (unlike some of my female friends who thought the movie would have been more effective had she been played by a man) but just make her character a bit of a cautionary tale on what can happen to a girl if she focuses too much on her career. Mainstream moviegoers aren't really getting the feminist hero worship that Bigelow wanted people to get, so it would have been better just to make the movie a bit more honest that we're not supposed to sympathize with Maya or even like her or view her as some sort of hero.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507186)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:14 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

"unlike some of my female friends who thought the movie would have been more effective had she been played by a man"

CONFIRMED FLAME.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507195)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:18 PM
Author: shimmering house-broken spot foreskin

Well, if the character of Maya is a composite based on the identities of a bunch of people - men AND women - who helped find Bin Laden, it could have just as accurately been portrayed by a man as well as a woman.

Portraying the CIA operative as a woman to make some point is just gimmicky bullshit. It's right up there with making Romeo and Juliet black and white or some shit. The casting detracts from the power of the story by adding a message that shouldn't be there. The message of ZDT should be We Got Bin Laden with some moral ambiguity thrown in there about the use of torture (when is it justified, if ever), and how much does one have to give up of their life and soul to devote their lives to tracking down OBL. Instead it's Sex and the City in combat gear and dark sunglasses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507210)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:19 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

you = OP. and your post is incoherent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507218)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:58 PM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

Not a composite. The real agent was a girl. Get over it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507368)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:13 PM
Author: 180 pervert

Best post ITT. He seems maf that the agent was female and is making up lots of shit about how no one sees her as a hero.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507769)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:50 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

outed as a villager

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507125)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:57 AM
Author: lavender new version native

I live in a major city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507147)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:10 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

you have the mind of a simpleton and the mother you're friends with sounds like a huge retard. you may live in the city but you have the same archaic, ignorant perspectives as a villager.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507181)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:08 PM
Author: 180 pervert

These "female friends" don't exist.

It seems like you hate her just because she's a woman in a position of power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507758)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:06 PM
Author: 180 pervert

Seriously. I don't get this guy's problem. He's pissed off that a woman did something heroic, so he wants to change the character to make her a bitch?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507750)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:25 PM
Author: painfully honest address partner

its on the run. shes psychotic and extremely insecure. shes spent years on xo pretending to be a white guy who hates non-white, non-upper-class women with careers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507823)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:42 PM
Author: translucent sneaky criminal

She was immensely unlikeable. Being completely unhinged is overkill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507632)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:05 PM
Author: 180 pervert

Why? You sound kinda insecure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507741)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:43 AM
Author: Haunting Abusive Selfie

The girl from Zero Dark Thirty wasn't a girl at all.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2012/12/wait-what-apparently-zero-dark-thirty-character-actually-dude/60037/?oref=obinsite

Uh, so, this is weird. According to a new interview with an expert on the CIA's operation to find Bin Laden, the CIA agent that portrayed by the character Maya, a girl, in Zero Dark Thirty is actually a guy.

"The guy who was on the account from 2003 to May 1, 2011, when bin Laden was killed, and the guy who was always saying ... that bin Laden is living in the mysterious compound in Abbottabad — that guy is a guy, he's not a female," Peter Bergen told NPR. Bergen used to work for CNN, produced a TV interview with Bin Laden once, and has written four books since 2001 on the CIA's hunt for Bin Laden. If there's anyone outside of the CIA who would know, it's Bergen.

So, that's fine and everything. Creative license, and such stuff. Bergen even called it a "literary device" in his interview. But then how do we reconcile what Bergen says with, say, the Washington Post's story from last week about how the female agent Maya's based on isn't getting along with her fellow agents:

This spring, she was among a handful of employees given the agency’s Distinguished Intelligence Medal, its highest honor except for those recognizing people who have come under direct fire. But when dozens of others were given lesser awards, the female officer lashed out.

“She hit ‘reply all’ ” to an e-mail announcement of the awards, a second former CIA official said. The thrust of her message, the former official said, was: “You guys tried to obstruct me. You fought me. Only I deserve the award.”

It should be noted that government officials wouldn't confirm anything about the agent's identity for the Post's story, so there's a chance Bergen is right here. Zero Dark director Kathryn Bigelow could have changed the gender of the character for her movie. We're not sure who got which wires crossed, but it's clear someone has some explaining to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507106)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 11:49 AM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

this is so poorly written it doesn't even make sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507120)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:05 PM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

Navy SEAL Mark Owen says it was a girl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507396)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:17 PM
Author: shimmering house-broken spot foreskin

I'm seeing this too. We were discussing what movie to watch the other day and ZDT was suggested. A few of the girls (bros' girlfriends) said they didn't want to watch some girl power flick and another said that she actually objects more to the portrayal of women in the movie than the portrayal of torture in the movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507206)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:20 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

something tells me these women do not exist beyond the xo virgin pumo's mind.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507220)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:21 PM
Author: shimmering house-broken spot foreskin

Are you a girl? You sound angry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507221)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:24 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

Not a chick. Why did you decide to switch pumos, OP?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507231)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:24 PM
Author: shimmering house-broken spot foreskin

Not OP.

And I can smell your vadge from here, chick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507234)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:28 PM
Author: painfully honest address partner

LOL u and OP just so happen to have the same opinion ITT and in this one?: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2165119&mc=43&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507531)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:50 PM
Author: painfully honest address partner

and in this one: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2085453&forum_id=2#21833903

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507674)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 5:06 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

is that really OTR? wtf is her problem? is she mentally ill?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22508631)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: painfully honest address partner

i have no evidence its OTR, it just makes a hell of a lot of sense.

i think she just trolls about stuff shes insecure about. she takes things to the extreme because she wants people to jump in and and say, "no, its ok for a woman to be in a position of power and value her career!" or "no, hapa girls are hot!" or "no, classy girls with a diverse friend group are cool!" or "no, early-30s single women arent necessarily disgusting undatable trash!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22508664)



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Date: June 2nd, 2019 2:51 AM
Author: painfully honest address partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#38327031)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:21 PM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

women like this might, MIGHT exist. but they'd be a bigger problem than the IRL butt-chinned bin laden slaying beauties they detest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507222)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:23 PM
Author: shimmering house-broken spot foreskin

Why would they be a bigger problem? They're actually nice, anti-shrewy girls who don't want their daughters to grow up to be unmarried at 35 because they focused on their careers too much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507227)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:26 PM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

shouldn't you have signed back into the other pumo to make this post about your friends and their possible future daughters? they're a bigger problem because they're dumb as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507243)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:28 PM
Author: shimmering house-broken spot foreskin

Not the other pumo. What kind of beta men are you guys?

And what makes these kinds of women dumb as fuck?

All the people I know who have these objections to this movie are all college-educated people. Some are even in biglaw/finance. I don't know any uneducated people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507251)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:32 PM
Author: Primrose Turdskin

lol beta men. beta because I can handle watching a movie about a chick tracking down bin laden without experiencing anger.

you made the same dumb mistake the other pumo made - they don't want to see the movie because they don't want their daughters to see it. so they don't want to see it because they can't handle IRL. lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507271)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:21 PM
Author: painfully honest address partner

oh yeah, i hear those biglaw/finance chicks have a huge problem with the idea of careerist women! lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507484)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:23 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

THIS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507228)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:15 PM
Author: 180 pervert

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507775)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:14 PM
Author: 180 pervert

(OP)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507772)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:26 PM
Author: painfully honest address partner

that literally is the OP: http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168540&mc=15&forum_id=2#22507611

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507827)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 5:04 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22508616)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:41 PM
Author: Disgusting church patrolman

holy shit. if she's gappy you need to marry her,

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507318)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:47 PM
Author: Laughsome insane philosopher-king jew

this movie is a load of shit.

OMG WOMYN WARRIORS

stfu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507339)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:59 PM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

Too bad it's real.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507371)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 12:59 PM
Author: Laughsome insane philosopher-king jew

too bad you're a fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507376)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:05 PM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

(MAF rapetile)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507401)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:12 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal garrison

you're the one expressing hatred towards women here. so who's the real fag?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507436)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:15 PM
Author: Nighttime reading party

"I just think that the movie should have focused more on how people didn't really respect her because she was so shrewy."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507452)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:21 PM
Author: painfully honest address partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507489)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:24 PM
Author: Stimulating state telephone

Yeah, needed more Coach Taylor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507512)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:49 PM
Author: translucent sneaky criminal

Clear Eyes, Full Hearts, CAN'T LOSE!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507669)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 1:25 PM
Author: painfully honest address partner

stfu OTR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507513)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 2:04 PM
Author: 180 pervert

Wait you're pissed just because the movie is about a woman who did something heroic? Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22507733)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 5:46 PM
Author: white vigorous national brethren

I would agree that Bigelow gave the movie a feminine touch, but it makes it a better movie. It makes me wonder If it was really worth it for this woman to spend 10 years on this hunt. SHe almost certainly wasn't laid during these 10 years. And she's a real bitch by the end--arrogant, self-centered and condescending. According to quora accounts, she also denigrated her colleagues after UBL was killed when she blamed all her co-workers for having hindered her.

Despite this one success story, would you really want to work w/ her?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22508851)



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Date: January 26th, 2013 6:14 PM
Author: Mentally impaired gaped chapel prole

OTR/GraceKelly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22508976)



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Date: January 27th, 2013 2:55 AM
Author: Big azn

I find this OP quite difficult to believe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22511509)



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Date: January 27th, 2013 12:11 PM
Author: Fragrant carnelian dragon circlehead

I'm with the OP. I find these cheesy action flicks that take themselves too seriously a complete bore. They always have a misunderstood hero or some shrew who everyone underestimates. What garbage. Oh and the whole backstory of one woman finding obl is false flag flame to take the heat off the team of males that actually pinpointed his location.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22512311)



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Date: February 15th, 2013 12:35 PM
Author: Motley violet school cafeteria pocket flask

Derpa derpa. The account from the guy who actually shot Bin Laden as well as the book written by another dude on the raid both confirm that the CIA agent was a woman. Other guys rotated into and out of the Bin Laden group, but she stayed there for five fucking years to nail that motherfucker. After the raid, the Shooter gave her the magazine in the gun he used to kill Bin Laden; he also called her "awesome" and "tough".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22644755)



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Date: February 15th, 2013 12:52 PM
Author: Big-titted thirsty orchestra pit

i thought something was missing from the movie, which was a focus on how the higher ups from a bunch of CIA middlemen to Panetta and even above him probably took the reins/credit for her work unfairly.

ever see the movie Contact, where Tom Skerrett steals Judy Foster's glory, and only after he dies does she get a chance. That is a strong dynamic that was touched on in the scenes with Tony Soprano/Panetta but could have been a greater subplot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#22644834)



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Date: June 2nd, 2019 2:52 AM
Author: painfully honest address partner

OTR bump

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2168460&forum_id=2#38327034)