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Date: March 9th, 2013 2:05 AM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish "The robot economy will produce more stuff with less human labor than ever before, but because we are married to the idea that people have to have some sort of job in a free-market economy in order to deserve the right to partake of any of the goods and services produced by society, the strange result of the robot revolution will be more people living in poverty."
http://lionoftheblogosphere.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/the-robot-economy-in-forbes/ |
Date: March 9th, 2013 2:06 AM Author: saffron shrine roommate Half Sigma is a mouth breathing retard when it comes to economic issues. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22784608) |
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Date: March 9th, 2013 2:08 AM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish not really. Personally, I've been talking about the robot economy (using that term, interestingly) since about 2005.
however, he is pretty dumb about the culture of food |
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Date: March 9th, 2013 2:22 AM Author: Coral orchestra pit corn cake Spot on - society will have to fundamentally alter its concept of employment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22784636) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:37 PM Author: charcoal pea-brained elastic band persian We used to think the ultimate success was having an automated world where people would work the absolute minimum and enjoy leisure.
Now, the ultimate success is everyone having a job and getting in as many hours as possible.
What the fuck? |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:49 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish cr
One reason for this, I believe, is that the wealthy feel the need to justify their wealth with jobs, even if those jobs actually produce very little and are actually a function of their wealth. Attacks on accumulation of wealth are prevented since the wealthy point to their "hard work". |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:59 PM Author: Irradiated Toaster it's a combination of things. i heard part of the clark howard show once where he went off on a barely-controlled rant about how none of his kids will get any inheritance unless they "work hard" for a living, even though he has more than enough money to obviate any need for that. then he started talking about how work equals dignity, and how it all goes back to bringing your kills back to your cave, and how work is an end in and of itself, etc.
a lot of americans really seem to believe this. it's the whole protestant "idle hands lead to masturbation" ethos. but the problem is - in the context of a modern economy - that's a SCARCITY ethos. it's the moral framework you'd want to implement when life is a grind and resources are scant and you need everyone to pull together or else the community will starve, or your frontier colony will be overrun by apaches.
but it's just inapplicable now. it's an attribution error. it's not that the "dignity" resides in the act of working; it's a byproduct of doing things that are useful.
that's why people in makework jobs that they know to be useless are often miserable anyway. |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:03 PM Author: Talented slimy step-uncle's house Yes, because everyone should provide you with free food, TV, a house, food, entertainment, and a car. You are entitled to it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816981) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:06 PM Author: Irradiated Toaster that's scarcity-mode thinking. it only makes sense in an environment where those sorts of things are hard-fought achievements which spite the adversarial environment surrounding them. but when you've got excess, those sorts of issues don't apply in the same way.
the problem is that our economy is still structured for scarcity. combined with automation, this tends to dump more and more work on fewer and fewer employees. that's not the best way to run the future. |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:09 PM Author: Talented slimy step-uncle's house Yes, because low-skilled workers can't possibly maintain or find small ways to improve that automation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816996) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:11 PM Author: Wonderful spruce stead candlestick maker oh and machines can't do that stuff too, right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22817006) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:21 PM Author: Talented slimy step-uncle's house It cannot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22817037) |
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Date: March 15th, 2013 2:42 AM Author: Wonderful spruce stead candlestick maker Oh right, the tech will never advance to that level just because you say so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22819947) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:13 PM Author: Irradiated Toaster again, you're trapped in the "work is good because it's work" school of tautology. work is an instrument. it's nothing more than that. if our systems are developed to the point where people CAN be idle, why is that bad? it's bad because we mostly sluice our capital distribution through work and employment.
but the question is, now that this is becoming an outdated mode of doing things, how do we move beyond our old models? |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:17 PM Author: Talented slimy step-uncle's house Yes, capital is fixed. The rich has siphoned off wealth from the poor. If we just shared the pie more, everyone would be rich. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22817026) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:23 PM Author: Irradiated Toaster you seem wedded to our present-day notions of capital. as though the system we have is apotheotic or something, and there can be no other. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22817042) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 8:41 PM Author: Razzmatazz ticket booth cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880366) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:23 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish So far society is in complete denial about these changes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22817041) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 8:18 PM Author: Mischievous pink office deer antler sarcasm isn't a substitute for a well reasoned argument. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880258) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:07 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish good post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816992) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:09 PM Author: Talented slimy step-uncle's house lol no. just no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22817000) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:01 PM Author: Talented slimy step-uncle's house Yes, that explains why every labor survey shows that higher income people work far more hours than lower income people. Your IQ must be 30. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816969) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:03 PM Author: Irradiated Toaster they work longer hours for various reasons, many of them social in nature. think of long hours at the office as a sort of "preening" effort like a peacock would make, except that instead of brilliant tailfeathers, the office dweller is showing off his supposed indispensability to bosses and other workers. the amount of work the dude actually does is largely a sideshow to the social component. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816980) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:05 PM Author: Talented slimy step-uncle's house This is non-responsive, and lowered my IQ for reading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816983) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:10 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish Hemidemisemipumo is a top poaster and a scholar, you ape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22817002) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:11 PM Author: Talented slimy step-uncle's house 180 libtard schtick you're running here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22817005) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:16 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish To be fair, Half Sigma/Lion of the blogosphere (linked to in the OP) doesn't seem to be much of a liberal to me. I haven't really seen libs talk about this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22817021) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:21 PM Author: Irradiated Toaster not many people want to seriously engage those sorts of questions. it undermines way too many core moral precepts that have been embedded in western society for thousands of years. so the tendency is to make a few remarks about surface changes, then try and come up with scenarios in which our existing systems could accommodate those shifts. there is very little thinking about what happens if the system is no longer fit for purpose.
that's why eric voegelin was one of the greatest conservative political philosophers. he described this sort of thing as "gnosis," meaning that other "thinkers" would mainly try to reconcile the world with what they already believed to the world's core truths, without actually considering the basis of those truths. |
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Date: March 9th, 2013 5:52 AM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish Income taxes as a form of protection and faux generosity for the wealthy:
"Do you expect most people to live in relative or absolute poverty? The former seems inevitable, because most people already live in relative poverty and the robot revolution will make things worse. However, the top 0.01% who own all the robots might choose to distribute consumer goods to the masses, if only to undermine their revolutionary fervor. The ultra-rich will pull a B’rer Rabbit by making the proles think that the rich are being painfully-forced to provide that bounty.
Much of the world will become a kind of Detroit where nearly everyone subsists on welfare or make-work civil-service jobs and poor individuals compete for status in their neighborhoods mainly by brawling (their life goal to terrify everyone for a radius of ten or twelve blocks which will be about as far as they ever travel, and to get the pick of the local sluts). No one will starve or lack for cable TV but no one will ever go anywhere nor do anything intellectual either.
The ultra-rich and their lackeys from a rump class of technicians will live in or near Loudon County, Palm Beach, San Luis Obisbo, etc. and although they will enjoy much greater luxury than the proles, will actually be skinnier and have fewer children. Chief among the luxuries they will cling to will be simple separation from proles.
For the ultra-rich “income taxes” will simply describe their administrative scheme for distributing part of their robots’ output to the proles. After all, if you are a capitalist who owns an army of robots your income is whatever they produce, which is potentially infinite. The rich will allocate the cost of welfare schemes among themselves via the income tax, which will not touch their capital (in order not to threaten their relative status) but will make it hard for anyone else to accumulate any capital. The propaganda value of this will be immense– when wanna-be tribunes of the people denounce the robot-owning class, propagandists (hired from the technician class) will divert the proles’ anger into gloating over the high tax rates they “impose” on the rich. The rich will quietly laugh at the whole charade. The technician class will resent the taxes (which will be rigged in tandem with welfare schemes, as now, to impose a very high marginal tax rate on anyone trying to “climb out of poverty”) but pay them rather than be cast into the proles’ hell." |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 9:52 PM Author: violent international law enforcement agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880756) |
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Date: March 9th, 2013 9:41 AM Author: violent international law enforcement agency Seems accurate. IP and other capital is increasingly in fewer hands. Rising from the lower classes to join the ranks of the upper middle class is becoming more difficult by the day. I see more make-work jobs being created by government and/or the MNC's (Wallmart greeted etc). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22784875) |
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Date: March 9th, 2013 9:54 AM Author: domesticated pit gay wizard 99% of human employment is already superfluous to basic necessities that keep us alive. Instead, it is applied to pursuits and pleasures that are far beyond basic needs. Where's the basis for thinking that a bit more automation is going to fundamentally or significantly change anything? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22784881) |
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Date: March 9th, 2013 2:49 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish Imagine a world where the robots are actually better than humans at every possible job.
Also, I'm sure you've noticed how even today a large percentage of jobs are merely make-work jobs that don't actually do anything at all. |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:35 PM Author: Fishy Heaven Mediation That would be awesome. We'd fuck and play video games all day while robots drove the cost of everything to nearly zero. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816874) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:53 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish only if the politics turn out that way (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816946) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:56 PM Author: Talented slimy step-uncle's house Anyone who knows anything about technology knows this is not even close to happening. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816951) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:03 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish Of course it's not close. It still doesn't change the fact that labor is becoming less and less useful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816978) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 6:07 PM Author: Talented slimy step-uncle's house Yes, because we couldn't take more vacations or have more spa treatments or live in bigger homes. You seem economically deficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816993) |
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Date: March 15th, 2013 2:44 AM Author: Wonderful spruce stead candlestick maker Huh? You seem incoherent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22819949) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:20 PM Author: Histrionic claret stage http://www.chrisstucchio.com/blog/2012/human_vs_machine_progress.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816785) |
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Date: March 9th, 2013 4:39 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22786482) |
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Date: March 9th, 2013 5:34 PM Author: Aqua out-of-control alpha jewess yeah; the reality of the future economy is already starting to slam up against the whole bootstraps/protestant work ideology that has prevailed in america since the colonial era. it will get uglier, because this country is divided not only by age cohort, but by race, with older and whiter voters distrustful of the upcoming shiftless tan hordes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22786913) |
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Date: November 7th, 2013 6:11 PM Author: elite market yarmulke "shiftless tan hordes" = 1 fucking 80 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#24392443) |
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Date: March 10th, 2013 4:06 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22791345) |
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Date: March 11th, 2013 4:33 AM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22795591) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 4:56 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816633) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 4:57 PM Author: Walnut trip crackhouse codepig what implications will this have for Bboooooooom and subsequent beta versions? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816638) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 4:59 PM Author: alcoholic tan principal's office travel guidebook tcq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816653) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:09 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish dem iron chains of nojob (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816716) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:19 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816784) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:23 PM Author: puce startled knife lol can't wait to see fatasd union walruses who love "working' with derr hands" get pwnd by a robot, just LOL!!!"" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816804) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:31 PM Author: Indigo harsh piazza this has already been happening (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816856) |
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Date: November 7th, 2013 6:32 PM Author: exhilarant twinkling locus community account for decades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#24392539) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:33 PM Author: soul-stirring shitlib business firm http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2018857&mc=30&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816863) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:38 PM Author: Aqua out-of-control alpha jewess but will robots ever be able to write bro rock songs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816883) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 5:55 PM Author: Pearl useless brakes library i dont get it?? so like we all become simlar to oil-rich arab countries? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22816950) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 9:44 PM Author: Charismatic khaki rehab karate george20 actually doing valuable trolling service in this thread to get some good responses out of petro and fucklaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22818219) |
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Date: March 14th, 2013 9:56 PM Author: plum home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22818322) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 8:02 PM Author: chartreuse rambunctious pervert goal in life The robot economy means that we have to completely re-think the Welfare system, or else we are all fucked.
The robot economy means that while goods are abundant, labor is worthless. This is the inverse of the pre-robot economy, in which labor was valuable and goods scarce.
The robot economy results in 4 economic classes: Robot owners Robot technicians Service-providers (teachers, nurses, masseuses, etc) Everyone else
90% of people are irrelevant. The economy can produce enough goods to keep everyone fed and clothed without them. There is, in a sense, literally nothing for them to do.
That 90% must be dealt with, one way or another. Because 90% of the population will not be willing to starve. Sooner or later, starving masses will start shooting the people with food. Or just shooting.
Conservatives must realize that hard work will not make jobs magically appear. Even willing, able, intelligent, hard workers will not be able to get work because there simply is nothing for them to do. Like it or not, the Welfare State is here to stay.
Liberals have to realize that the current Welfare State is a patchwork POS which incentivises sloth and interferes with genuine entrepreneurial activity.
Critically, even though we can guarantee a basic standard of living to all citizens, we cannot guarantee all citizens an infinite standard of living, nor can we guarantee even a basic standard of living to infinite citizens.
We need some standards for how we're going to distribute resources which doesn't involve 90% of people starving, and doesn't involve stupid people who don't understand birth control overrunning the planet.
At the same time, we don't want such a system which becomes so complex and burdensome that it interferes with the economy, as our present system is doing.
My own thoughts for remedying this problem are two-fold: 1. Free universal IUDs, given to all teens, removable only on request, perhaps for a fee. This eliminates almost all 'oops' babies and ensures a certain level of responsibility and planning in parents.
2. Abolish the current tax/welfare system in favor of a sales tax + rebate. People who pay less in taxes than the rebate automatically get more money (which they can spend on more goods, since they will be more likely to consume more than to save.) The greatly simplified tax and administration will save money for small business owners, who won't have to deal with income tax bullshit anymore.
This will most likely need to be coupled with some sort of overall wealth tax like a Land Value Tax, inheritance tax, and gift tax (to prevent people from just circumventing the inheritance tax.) This to make sure that resources are optimally (as much as possible) distributed and that we don't end up with long-term wealth distribution imbalances. |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 8:24 PM Author: Apoplectic organic girlfriend IUD removable only post-marriage/civil union, absent any religious/apolitical institution. As in, you have to prove you're in a stable, monogamous, longterm, legally bound relationship before you earn the right to bring more cretins onto this gay earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880284) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 8:46 PM Author: Mischievous pink office deer antler The robot economy could potentially destabilize current class structure. Like someone said in another post, 90% of labor would be rendered obsolete and the notion that we can retrain people to work in "new tech" industries is laughable. This doesn't just apply to the dumbs but also the educated. Robots and AI are getting to the point where they can outperform humans in virtually every task.
This will result in a future where a small class of people who own the capital, resources, and robots, and the employees of companies in those fields will be the only people left. Population will shrink naturally. The current generation of poors might be provided welfare to prevent mass social instability but financial circumstances and the legal system will work to discourage their reproduction. In addition, the ubiquity of virtual distraction and birth control along with the disappearance of the family unit will also help greatly reduce population.
Those who are left will be slaves to corporations and machines. They'll be barely recognizable from a biological standpoint since they'll have some sort of AI component to their brain and nanobots coursing through their bloodstream. |
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Date: March 26th, 2013 12:50 AM Author: chartreuse rambunctious pervert goal in life "...but financial circumstances and the legal system will work to discourage their reproduction."
LOL no. Go look at some statistics on who's breeding in America. |
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Date: March 26th, 2013 5:40 AM Author: Mischievous pink office deer antler agree that the statement is dubious. but recent trends show sharper declines latina and black fertility rates (let's face it, they are the poors): http://www.prb.org/Publications/Datasheets/2012/world-population-data-sheet/fact-sheet-us-population.aspx
"...This recent drop in births among young adults could be linked to the recession. In Europe, high rates of unemployment and low levels of economic security are strongly associated with declines in fertility among young adults.7 The economic downturn may have had a similar effect on young adults' fertility in the United States."
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Date: March 25th, 2013 8:40 PM Author: Arousing splenetic chad wagecucks Looking at health care, I see a system that is subsidized so consumers don't pay full cost for most things. As a result, health care supply is chronically short of demand.
Making things "free" will very quickly make them in short supply. The only problem is that people will have grown used to the free stuff by then. Now try reverting to a free market.
There will never be a time when the supply of all goods exceeds demand. Mature markets like commodities can become supply-saturated but that is the exception rather than the rule. Demand is limitless, especially for products with novelty. |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 8:47 PM Author: Aqua out-of-control alpha jewess that doesn't really get around the robot problem. if there is huge demand for a product called the "dingus," and robots make it so that millions of dinguses can be made and distributed with minimal human intervention... what now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880395) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 8:49 PM Author: Arousing splenetic chad wagecucks Eventually the dingus inputs will rise in price as millions of dingi flood the market.
The problem of labor obsolescence and resource distribution remains. Just sayin freebies are not the answer. |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 8:59 PM Author: Mischievous pink office deer antler The Great Depression illustrated just how automation, increasing productivity and efficiency could lead to oversupply, low prices and deflation. That is the beauty of war (among other things). It destroys surplus labor and capital in the form of missiles, bombers, guns, ammunition, etc. After the war ended, new demand was needed to substitute for the war. Hence the rise of consumer society and marketing. It wasn't enough that manufacturers manufacture goods. They also had to manufacture demand for their goods. Demand is limitless only when you can convince the consumer that his material wants are limitless.
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Date: March 25th, 2013 9:02 PM Author: Arousing splenetic chad wagecucks Software is a great counter example. More than any other product it is prone to oversupply since production costs are zero. However it's a thriving market because constant innovation and novelty causes rapid obsolescence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880496) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 9:13 PM Author: Indigo harsh piazza Production costs of software are zero? WTF (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880571) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 9:15 PM Author: Arousing splenetic chad wagecucks Copy paste. I'm distinguishing those from fixed costs. Should have said running costs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880577) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 9:18 PM Author: Mischievous pink office deer antler Most producers of software use IP laws to artificially limit supply though. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by production costs are zero. Still have to pay for labor. This applies to many service sector jobs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880598) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 9:20 PM Author: Arousing splenetic chad wagecucks I once bought a laptop on Craigslist with over $5000 worth of software on it for $400 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880616) |
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Date: March 26th, 2013 6:50 AM Author: lascivious chrome tanning salon wtf want to double your money? pm me your paypal address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22882226) |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 9:11 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish Labor may not be scarce in the future, but natural resources will be (especially if global population doesn't decline). It's a difficult economic adjustment to go from a world where labor is scarce and resources are abundant (much of history) to this.
The big question is how we will allocate these scarce resources when so much of the population is useless. |
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Date: March 25th, 2013 9:16 PM Author: Arousing splenetic chad wagecucks There will have to be a cull. You can't keep useless people around forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#22880589) |
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Date: November 7th, 2013 5:56 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#24392365) |
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Date: November 7th, 2013 5:57 PM Author: rough-skinned haunted graveyard In its first year, the APOLLO project has used the supercomputer behind Watson to power the “Oncology Expert Adviser,” a program that parses and interprets massive amounts of patient information and medical literature to aid physicians, representatives said. Leukemia is the first cancer targeted by the program.
“Watson lets you take all that information in and connect to it in a way that lets experts make a better decision,” Manoj Saxena, general manager of IBM Watson, said.
http://www.texastribune.org/2013/10/18/md-anderson-enlists-ibm-supercomputer-fight-leukem/ |
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Date: November 7th, 2013 6:12 PM Author: rough-skinned haunted graveyard Take Parkdale: The mill here produces 2.5 million pounds of yarn a week with about 140 workers. In 1980, that production level would have required more than 2,000 people.
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Date: November 7th, 2013 6:24 PM Author: Nighttime Parlour Death Wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#24392506) |
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Date: November 14th, 2013 7:32 PM Author: Costumed theater stage gaping Just freeing up people to be doctors and software engineers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2201904&forum_id=2#24440012) |
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Date: November 14th, 2013 7:28 PM Author: rough-skinned haunted graveyard Apple Inc. (AAPL:US) is putting a record $10.5 billion to work in new technology -- from assembly robots to milling machines -- that consumers will never see.
To get a jump on rivals like Samsung Electronics Co. and lay the groundwork for new products, Apple is spending more on the machines that do the behind-the-scenes work of mass producing iPhones, iPads and other gadgets. That includes equipment to polish the new iPhone 5c’s colorful plastic, laser and milling machines to carve the MacBook’s aluminum body, and testing gear for the iPhone and iPad camera lens, said people with knowledge of the company’s manufacturing methods, who asked not to be identified because the process is private. http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/630036?type=bloomberg |