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Law clerk did shitty work - let it go or report it up the chain?

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Marvelous massive menage
  04/24/13
i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unles...
soggy startling kitchen skinny woman
  04/24/13
Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it?
Bossy Amber Twinkling Uncleanness
  04/24/13
just sit down with him and run through all the problems with...
razzmatazz chest-beating mediation
  04/24/13
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Marvelous massive menage
  04/24/13
Very important. What was the fuck up? If it was something...
Aggressive Macaca
  04/24/13
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Marvelous massive menage
  04/24/13
lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks
cracking primrose meetinghouse quadroon
  04/24/13
180
Aggressive Macaca
  04/24/13
is he coming on after graduation?
excitant hyperactive place of business
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Marvelous massive menage
  04/24/13
"....he should be thankful he has this opportunity.&quo...
tan mad cow disease fortuitous meteor
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Contagious fishy multi-billionaire crotch
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Marvelous massive menage
  04/24/13
How much does he get paid? How large is the firm?
Bossy Amber Twinkling Uncleanness
  04/24/13
only credited question in the entire thread
idiotic rehab
  06/18/13
I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for h...
mischievous lodge
  04/24/13
this
Umber motley sanctuary
  04/24/13
titcr
effete boiling water native
  04/24/13
180, especially this part: "Make sure he knows that ...
elite embarrassed to the bone home hissy fit
  04/25/13
i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell?
wonderful heaven coldplay fan
  06/18/13
are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. ...
Contagious fishy multi-billionaire crotch
  04/24/13
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Marvelous massive menage
  04/24/13
If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shi...
odious zippy candlestick maker psychic
  04/24/13
How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip e...
180 sticky preventive strike boistinker
  04/24/13
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Marvelous massive menage
  04/24/13
If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it i...
Coiffed aromatic property
  04/24/13
protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- ...
Contagious fishy multi-billionaire crotch
  04/25/13
I don't believe that you're a professional employment consul...
180 sticky preventive strike boistinker
  04/25/13
if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to...
Painfully honest trailer park headpube
  04/24/13
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Frisky weed whacker half-breed
  04/25/13
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Marvelous massive menage
  06/18/13
Did he have a good reputation before this? It's hard to ...
Irradiated low-t background story
  06/18/13
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Marvelous massive menage
  06/18/13
what type of firm are you at? no doobs but it's kind of ...
idiotic rehab
  06/18/13
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Marvelous massive menage
  06/18/13
gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff?
idiotic rehab
  06/18/13
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Marvelous massive menage
  06/18/13
so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potent...
idiotic rehab
  06/18/13
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Marvelous massive menage
  06/18/13
How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath wo...
bateful seedy stag film goal in life
  06/18/13
if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him ...
Balding house
  06/18/13
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Marvelous massive menage
  06/18/13
the way you described it made it seem like you told him exac...
Balding house
  06/18/13
How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish p...
Hairraiser associate
  06/18/13
Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life?
aphrodisiac pit
  06/18/13
School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn'...
Slap-happy Dog Poop Jewess
  06/18/13


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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:08 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068369)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: soggy startling kitchen skinny woman

i'd say chew him out pretty good but don't rat him out unless he fucks up again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068377)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: Bossy Amber Twinkling Uncleanness

Why don't you just bitch him out and make him redo it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068379)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM
Author: razzmatazz chest-beating mediation

just sit down with him and run through all the problems with it. you probably should have checked in with him sooner to see how he was progressing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068387)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068400)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM
Author: Aggressive Macaca

Very important. What was the fuck up?

If it was something like a SJ motion, he has no excuses. Even if the arguments are off, it should be relatively straightforward.

But if it's something obscure where 5 people in the history of the earth ever did, and he messed up, cut him some slack.

Example, once a dude asked me to draft some NY REAL PROPERTY MOTION Discharging a mortgage. There were no samples, he had no idea how to do it, and the clerk of the court was like "LOL". I had no idea what law it was based on.

I ended up doing it based on reading the CPLR and the NY Real Property Law and it took THREE filings for the judge to actually accept it.

Client was pissed it took so long but MY BAD BRO I HAD NO IDEA HOW TO DO IT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068412)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:16 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068428)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:17 PM
Author: cracking primrose meetinghouse quadroon

lol as if he cares what johnsmeyer thinks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068432)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: Aggressive Macaca

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068472)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:09 PM
Author: excitant hyperactive place of business

is he coming on after graduation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068378)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:10 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068390)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:11 PM
Author: tan mad cow disease fortuitous meteor

"....he should be thankful he has this opportunity."

You sound like a fucking boomer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068395)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: Contagious fishy multi-billionaire crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068407)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:13 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068408)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:21 PM
Author: Bossy Amber Twinkling Uncleanness

How much does he get paid? How large is the firm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068467)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:12 PM
Author: idiotic rehab

only credited question in the entire thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424545)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:14 PM
Author: mischievous lodge

I'd say chew his ass out, but do what you can to cover for him. Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068414)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:19 PM
Author: Umber motley sanctuary

this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068445)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:23 PM
Author: effete boiling water native

titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068870)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:53 AM
Author: elite embarrassed to the bone home hissy fit

180, especially this part:

"Make sure he knows that he is your bitch now"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074226)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:28 PM
Author: wonderful heaven coldplay fan

i.e., pulling a Pete Campbell?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424678)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:15 PM
Author: Contagious fishy multi-billionaire crotch

are you female? just deal with this between the two of you. i would say patiently go through it with him and make it obvious how much it sucks but without directly saying it sucks.

the best policy is to shame him in a way that makes him feel he let you down but without him feeling resentment toward you. so don't be a dick to him about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068419)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:18 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068437)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM
Author: odious zippy candlestick maker psychic

If he fucks up again though, you know what to do ---> shitcan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068455)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:20 PM
Author: 180 sticky preventive strike boistinker

How much does he get paid? Biglaw? Is this one of those ip externship deals?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068457)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 5:23 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068487)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:19 PM
Author: Coiffed aromatic property

If he gets paid a shit ton then there is no excuse. If it is $12 an hour and is drafting Motions or briefs or has some esoteric research assignment then maybe not. As you shoudld have been more on top of it. This doesn't sound like is the case though.

Sidenote: When I was a clerk, I was getting $10-15. One time, a Partner wrote "shit" on one of the briefs I drafted for him. The only real reason he told me he wrote it was because I didn't repetitively include a common phrase/piece of jargon that he had wrote in the margins a few times. I will never forget that day.

I probably would have little pity for a highly paid kid who just does shit work on petty shit.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068850)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: Contagious fishy multi-billionaire crotch

protip most people -- especially perfectionist law dorks -- will do their best whether making $15 per hour or $50 per hour. and some people may actually perform WORSE making more because they feel too stressed to be perfect given their high pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074285)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 12:14 PM
Author: 180 sticky preventive strike boistinker

I don't believe that you're a professional employment consultant and that was REMINDER at best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074327)



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Date: April 24th, 2013 6:22 PM
Author: Painfully honest trailer park headpube

if it's a small office, dont cover for him. you dont want to have to work with a bitchass like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23068867)



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Date: April 25th, 2013 11:54 AM
Author: Frisky weed whacker half-breed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23074231)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:07 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424518)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: Irradiated low-t background story

Did he have a good reputation before this?

It's hard to imagine someone doing that unless they don't care / don't respect you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424546)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:14 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424556)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:13 PM
Author: idiotic rehab

what type of firm are you at?

no doobs but it's kind of hard to get a handle on all this b/c i've never heard of a firm with a 3L clerk or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424550)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:15 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424564)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM
Author: idiotic rehab

gotcha. so this is like non-shitlaw type stuff?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424572)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:16 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424575)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: idiotic rehab

so this bro just cost himself huge since he went from potential midlaw type salary to NEVERWILLBEJERB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424583)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424599)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:17 PM
Author: bateful seedy stag film goal in life

How times have changed. Back in the old days even Cravath would ask summers to stay on as 3L law clerks who work part time. 'twas a simpler time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424581)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:19 PM
Author: Balding house

if you already knew everything he needed to do and gave him from Friday until Sunday to do it, why did it then take you so long to do it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424594)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:21 PM
Author: Marvelous massive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424614)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:24 PM
Author: Balding house

the way you described it made it seem like you told him exactly what needed to be done to fix stuff, not that he was rewriting/researching stuff from scratch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424637)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:57 PM
Author: Hairraiser associate

How did he get hired if he is seemingly too dumb to finish projects? Has he always been bad at work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424878)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:38 PM
Author: aphrodisiac pit

Do you feel any guilt you ruined this bros life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424748)



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Date: June 18th, 2013 8:51 PM
Author: Slap-happy Dog Poop Jewess

School range? If legit TTT then don't feel bad, he shouldn't have gone to law school in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2238878&forum_id=2#23424825)