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Not sure if this board still dispenses advice re law school....
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/02/13
should be sent to jail for going to LS with 4 kids. absolute...
racy pale roast beef juggernaut
  05/02/13
It's not getting paid by his employer. He wants to quit his ...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/02/13
schedule a non-confrontational intervention
racy pale roast beef juggernaut
  05/02/13
Define "New York law-type school." New York has l...
charcoal old irish cottage
  05/02/13
bro. NYLS is CLEARLY what he meant. get on the ball.
odious deep feces mexican
  05/02/13
I literally meant New York Law School, NOT NYU, but he can j...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/02/13
I say forget it then. I say that confidently.
charcoal old irish cottage
  05/02/13
If he already bombed the LSAT 4 times he absolutely should n...
comical pontificating puppy alpha
  05/02/13
What's his gpa? With a good LSAT and a good gpa he's in at a...
insane bateful site stain
  05/02/13
His g.p.a can't be more then a 3.0, if that. He has one canc...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/02/13
NO SHIT
Gaped Property Faggot Firefighter
  05/02/13
Make him read law school transparency, law school numbers, t...
Gaped Property Faggot Firefighter
  05/02/13
Where can I find the Latham article?
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/02/13
http://www.infirmation.com/bboard/clubs-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id...
Gaped Property Faggot Firefighter
  05/02/13
Wow, thanks for that. JFC. Does that shit still go on in Big...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/02/13
DONT. I mean DONT have him read this. He will just see &qu...
bright school
  05/03/13
Also, make him read Piithypike's guide on TLS. If he can't p...
Gaped Property Faggot Firefighter
  05/02/13
This the scam bloggers are the best method
spectacular adulterous stag film striped hyena
  05/02/13
LJL at this guy ever having to worry about SullCrom bag thre...
bright school
  05/03/13
He would fuck over not only his life, but his wife's life an...
yellow territorial state dingle berry
  05/02/13
Is he PAYE eligible?
comical pontificating puppy alpha
  05/02/13
What is PAYE eligible?
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/02/13
divorce
tan turdskin rehab
  05/02/13
Unfortunately enough, if this guy goes to LS that will proba...
canary talking heaven crotch
  05/02/13
UPDATE: Spoke with brother-in-law last night. Told him flat ...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/03/13
Some people just have it ingrained in their head that they w...
comical pontificating puppy alpha
  05/03/13
Yes, I already pointed him to jdunderground but he says thes...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/03/13
How is he testing in low 160's now after scoring like 150 4 ...
comical pontificating puppy alpha
  05/03/13
He says he is testing in the low 160's and I would bet he pr...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/03/13
It would seem to fit his MO (i.e., being delusional).
comical pontificating puppy alpha
  05/03/13
absolutely. he is the exact type to take an LSAT, not time h...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/03/13
ROFL. Bombing the LSAT 4 times takes this from STUPID MORON ...
sexy doctorate national
  05/03/13
Of course insane. Why not try and convince him to do a PT...
magical supple gunner
  05/03/13
He doesn't want to continue in the business field - wants to...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/03/13
Well, tell your sister-in-law (for your wife's sake) its eit...
magical supple gunner
  05/03/13
shitty flame. no one is really this stubborn and dense de...
flushed dysfunction menage
  05/03/13
You're obviously free to think it's flame or not - I don't r...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/03/13
Absolutely not. You are dooming yourself and those children...
Provocative geriatric nursing home marketing idea
  05/03/13
you obviously haven't bothered to read the op, or if you did...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/03/13
Substitute "you" for whoever is contemplating goin...
Provocative geriatric nursing home marketing idea
  05/03/13
dude, you're being obnoxious and childish. This really isn't...
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/03/13
Flame.
Provocative geriatric nursing home marketing idea
  05/03/13
Ok buddy, you got me. I'm flaming you. Happy?
erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison
  05/03/13


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Date: May 2nd, 2013 10:21 AM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

Not sure if this board still dispenses advice re law school. My brother-in-law (wife's brother) wants to quit his job and go to law school. He's married with 4 kids. He's in his early 30's. He works for a large insurance or reinsurance company as a some sort of analyst. My wife and his wife has asked me to talk to him and try to convince him not to go. He's already bombed the LSAT 4 times years ago but from what I understand the last of his scores are abotu to be erased from his record. What would xoxo say to this dude? thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23119882)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 10:22 AM
Author: racy pale roast beef juggernaut

should be sent to jail for going to LS with 4 kids. absolutely not unless he can get it paid for, a guaranteed job etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23119885)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 10:26 AM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

It's not getting paid by his employer. He wants to quit his full time job to go to law school and judging from his past LSAT scores, he'd probably end up at a New York law-type school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23119898)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 10:48 AM
Author: racy pale roast beef juggernaut

schedule a non-confrontational intervention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23119990)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:20 AM
Author: charcoal old irish cottage

Define "New York law-type school." New York has law schools of a very wide range of quality (from NYU/CLS in the top six to CUNY Law, which is completely unranked IIRC), so that doesn't narrow it down much.

Basically, it's not worth it unless he gets a scholly to a T14. Even if he gets into a top school, he'll leave with $250K in debt without a scholly unless he works during school and does a part-time program. Four kids is a lot of mouths to feed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120149)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:22 AM
Author: odious deep feces mexican

bro. NYLS is CLEARLY what he meant. get on the ball.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120161)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:23 AM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

I literally meant New York Law School, NOT NYU, but he can just as easily end up at a school like Touro, CUNY Law, Hofstra etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120163)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:24 AM
Author: charcoal old irish cottage

I say forget it then. I say that confidently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120171)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:21 AM
Author: comical pontificating puppy alpha

If he already bombed the LSAT 4 times he absolutely should not try again. If he can't get in somewhere halfway decent after 4 lsat tries he should give up and /self

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120158)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:26 AM
Author: insane bateful site stain

What's his gpa? With a good LSAT and a good gpa he's in at a good school with money. Grind it out for a year, and he can get a decent job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120178)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:27 AM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

His g.p.a can't be more then a 3.0, if that. He has one cancel, a 148, 150 and 153 but that's getting erased from his LSAC record in June.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120187)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:27 AM
Author: Gaped Property Faggot Firefighter

NO SHIT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120189)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:27 AM
Author: Gaped Property Faggot Firefighter

Make him read law school transparency, law school numbers, the SullCrom bag thread, the article about working at Latham in the boom times, and xo in general.

At least he'll know what he's getting into in the best case scenario.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120185)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:28 AM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

Where can I find the Latham article?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120192)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:38 AM
Author: Gaped Property Faggot Firefighter

http://www.infirmation.com/bboard/clubs-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001uDi

This along with the SullCrom post make for some of the most depressing reading I've ever found on this board. Like, soul crushing shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120228)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 2:50 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

Wow, thanks for that. JFC. Does that shit still go on in Biglaw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23121180)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 12:15 PM
Author: bright school

DONT. I mean DONT have him read this. He will just see "sky high salary and plush offices" and miss the rest. He will think the author is a pussy that couldn' hack it. But moreover, its bullshit to make him think he eve has a shot at that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23126790)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:29 AM
Author: Gaped Property Faggot Firefighter

Also, make him read Piithypike's guide on TLS. If he can't put in three months to study for the LSAT and get a 17x, then man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120194)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:29 AM
Author: spectacular adulterous stag film striped hyena

This the scam bloggers are the best method

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120197)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 12:08 PM
Author: bright school

LJL at this guy ever having to worry about SullCrom bag thread type stuff coming from a ttt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23126761)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:27 AM
Author: yellow territorial state dingle berry

He would fuck over not only his life, but his wife's life and the lives of his four kids, there is no way he should go to law school.

EDIT: LOL at this fucking flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120190)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 11:34 AM
Author: comical pontificating puppy alpha

Is he PAYE eligible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23120217)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 2:50 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

What is PAYE eligible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23121174)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 2:52 PM
Author: tan turdskin rehab

divorce

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23121197)



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Date: May 2nd, 2013 7:11 PM
Author: canary talking heaven crotch

Unfortunately enough, if this guy goes to LS that will probably be the result. Really wouldn't do it with those numbers (both LSATs and kids).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23122698)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 12:03 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

UPDATE: Spoke with brother-in-law last night. Told him flat out that he is likely making a very big mistake. Told him that this mistake can literally tear his family apart and destroy his finances, and all he has to do is run some simple numbers and go online to see what I'm talking about.

He looked at me as if I had two heads. He is in complete denial about the legal job market overall (shitlaw, non-existent mid-law, biglaw) thinks he will have a very good shot at biglaw coming from a tier 3 school, assuming he even gets in to such a school, and doesn't really care or know about the structural shift within biglaw re hiring/layoffs etc.

I'm trying to be a good bro-in-law and have him open his eyes a bit to see what's really going on, but he just refuses to see things realistically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23126736)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 12:09 PM
Author: comical pontificating puppy alpha

Some people just have it ingrained in their head that they won't really believe it until it gets beaten into them.

Can you point him to TLS and ask him to poast what he's thinking of doing? The kids there will tear him to shreds.

Also send him to jdunderground and Law School Transparency.

With his numbers how can he even get into a TTT? He has shitty shitty numbers and will have to pay sticker at a TTTT or something

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23126768)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 12:39 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

Yes, I already pointed him to jdunderground but he says these websites are full of losers who never had a chance at employment to begin with. I kinda just stared right at him, and almost blurted out that he is and will end up in an even worse position.

He's been studying for over two years now for the LSAT and plans to take it in June, which is when LSAC erases his old scores. He's been scoring in the low 160's on practice tests but I guarantee he will buckle under the pressure of test day and bomb it once again.

I guess what really bothers his wife and my wife, his sister, is the fact that he wants to throw away his career at his age in order to get into a uber competitive saturated legal market. He has a very decent job, pays about high 5 or low 6 figures, good benefits, 9 to 5, and the possibility of moving up the corporate ladder (I admit this takes a long time but still it's there and something worth considering) but he is hellbent on making this career change.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23126876)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:07 PM
Author: comical pontificating puppy alpha

How is he testing in low 160's now after scoring like 150 4 freaking times?

I bet you he is lying about his scores/and or not really timing properly.

If he actually gets in the 160s he could go part time for cheapish on scholly and work to save money I guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127362)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:18 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

He says he is testing in the low 160's and I would bet he probably isn't timing himself properly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127411)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:27 PM
Author: comical pontificating puppy alpha

It would seem to fit his MO (i.e., being delusional).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127454)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:29 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

absolutely. he is the exact type to take an LSAT, not time himself, score piss poor and then think he can replicate that score on a real exam, with real testing conditions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127464)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 12:18 PM
Author: sexy doctorate national

ROFL. Bombing the LSAT 4 times takes this from STUPID MORON level to CLINICALLY INSANE level

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23126804)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 12:41 PM
Author: magical supple gunner

Of course insane.

Why not try and convince him to do a PT MBA instead, which could be useful given his analyst position in (re)insurance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23126888)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 12:44 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

He doesn't want to continue in the business field - wants to be a lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23126896)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 1:03 PM
Author: magical supple gunner

Well, tell your sister-in-law (for your wife's sake) its either him or the law.

I guess you need to focus on not letting her go down with the ship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23126996)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:03 PM
Author: flushed dysfunction menage

shitty flame. no one is really this stubborn and dense

describe his motivations for attending ls and his background in more detail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127348)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:15 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

You're obviously free to think it's flame or not - I don't really care whether you do or don't. If you don't believe me, then fine, don't. Not sure what you want me to say.

W/R/T/ to his motivations and background - he's been in reinsurance for quite some time now as some sort of analyst. He says he's been dealing with some contracts and legal issues relating to work for the past 2.5 years and has met some inhouse lawyers, too, and this peaked his interest in becoming a lawyer. I don't know how reinsurance companies work or what analysts do there, or if he's telling me the truth or bs'ing me, but this is what I've been told. I politely suggested to him to get some professional insurance designation like a cpcu or some other crap but he thinks its ttt.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127400)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:26 PM
Author: Provocative geriatric nursing home marketing idea

Absolutely not. You are dooming yourself and those children to poverty by choosing law school. Tuition is at its highest and will continue to rise. The median starting salary is $48,000 for a new lawyer and you get to start 9-12 months after graduation. You have to pay for a bar review course that costs 3-5k while you are unemployed and the cannot be employed while you study for the course unless you're ALPHA (it sounds like you aren't).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127449)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:28 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

you obviously haven't bothered to read the op, or if you did, you're pretty retarded when it comes to reading comprehension.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127460)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:35 PM
Author: Provocative geriatric nursing home marketing idea

Substitute "you" for whoever is contemplating going to law school. It's still the same faggot situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127501)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:41 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

dude, you're being obnoxious and childish. This really isn't about me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127527)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:45 PM
Author: Provocative geriatric nursing home marketing idea

Flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127545)



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Date: May 3rd, 2013 2:48 PM
Author: erotic adventurous coffee pot garrison

Ok buddy, you got me. I'm flaming you. Happy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2245438&forum_id=2#23127555)