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PAYE being extended to all borrowers (not flame)

As noted above, the Administration’s FY 2014 student loan bu...
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
180
irate carnelian chad milk
  12/19/13
HOLY SHIT NOT FLAME
adventurous multi-billionaire mad-dog skullcap
  12/19/13
seemingly no one raised a stink about this during budget neg...
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
Is this real or BS? Can't open link on phone.
Azure site clown
  12/19/13
appears real
mind-boggling self-centered persian goal in life
  12/19/13
so Potus poasts or lurks here? The 2014 Budget proposes...
mind-boggling self-centered persian goal in life
  12/19/13
When would this take effect?
Azure site clown
  12/19/13
180000000000
adventurous multi-billionaire mad-dog skullcap
  12/19/13
I thought for sure this would be flame. 180 as fuck
adventurous multi-billionaire mad-dog skullcap
  12/19/13
paye sounds like a bad idea tbh
concupiscible address
  12/19/13
Explain
adventurous multi-billionaire mad-dog skullcap
  12/19/13
more interest paid?
concupiscible address
  12/19/13
(guy who doesn't understand PAYE at all)
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
didnt see the forgiveness after 20
concupiscible address
  12/19/13
...
umber trump supporter
  12/19/13
...
Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/28/13
you seem dumb
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
lol at you prole deadbeats praying for the manna to fall fro...
lavender corner degenerate
  12/19/13
(self proclaimed hardcore lib calling students "prole d...
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
"PAYE isn't even on GOP's radar screen. And even if it ...
lavender corner degenerate
  12/19/13
Also, I thought the budget already passed the house and sena...
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
It was a deal to agree on how much money the budget would be...
irradiated dragon
  12/19/13
that's right. i wasn't sure if it had passed yet. you ...
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
The real battle will be when people start applying for forgi...
Stirring duck-like point
  12/19/13
No tax bomb with PAYE or PSLF
adventurous multi-billionaire mad-dog skullcap
  12/19/13
(citation needed)
Stirring duck-like point
  12/19/13
http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&mc=60&...
bespoke abode
  12/19/13
LOL just STASH DAT YUMMY
Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/19/13
LOL you are literally the worst poster politically.
black passionate theatre fat ankles
  12/19/13
Please confirm not flame.
black passionate theatre fat ankles
  12/19/13
Uhhh...I told you suckas this was happening a long time ago....
black passionate theatre fat ankles
  12/19/13
yea, i remember that actually
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
:)
black passionate theatre fat ankles
  12/19/13
This would greatly increase my lifestyle and ability to do e...
effete potus
  12/19/13
wait, so this doesnt cap interest rates and ties payment to ...
concupiscible address
  12/19/13
Who is to say that the government won't wholesale scrap enti...
black passionate theatre fat ankles
  12/19/13
fucking welfare
red aggressive pervert
  12/19/13
wait
umber trump supporter
  12/19/13
180
Cerebral trailer park round eye
  12/19/13
pay your loans you fucking deadbeats.
Lime mood
  12/19/13
shut the fuck up earl
irate carnelian chad milk
  12/19/13
*guy whose loans are consolidated at 1%* *guy who got all...
appetizing bonkers tanning salon
  12/19/13
...
irate carnelian chad milk
  12/19/13
brother obama is the rich parent i never had
mind-boggling self-centered persian goal in life
  12/19/13
poor family and got into the good schools with financial aid...
Lime mood
  12/19/13
the difference is the fordham grad in 2006 had a 33% chance ...
appetizing bonkers tanning salon
  12/19/13
Between 1992 and 2001 my family had a combined income of les...
Lime mood
  12/19/13
...
beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native
  12/19/13
so i guess your point is that you're going to ignore the fac...
irate carnelian chad milk
  12/19/13
great advantage timing the law hiring market? You forget I ...
Lime mood
  12/19/13
You were laid off and collecting unemployment from NY +sever...
beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native
  12/19/13
relative to this board, you had it fine.
irate carnelian chad milk
  12/19/13
that's good for you, earl. you are what they call an outlier...
appetizing bonkers tanning salon
  12/19/13
...
beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native
  12/19/13
Earl deletes my post calling him a creep. Why?
beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native
  12/19/13
I didn't delete that. Your post in the other thread got del...
Lime mood
  12/19/13
Do you really think I believe you? You're a fucking lying cr...
beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native
  12/19/13
Dont really care if you believe me. If someone else is modd...
Lime mood
  12/19/13
You're a shitmod, a liar and a creep. Your pathetic denials ...
beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native
  12/19/13
Absent a bankruptcy Hail Mary, there goes any hope of contro...
Soul-stirring ape
  12/19/13
supposedly Obama is also trying to hold schools more account...
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
its the wrong approach. If he wants to bail out existing de...
Lime mood
  12/19/13
well, my opinion is that this plan is needed in the short ru...
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
millenials should not be going to grad schools except for na...
Lime mood
  12/19/13
Sorry, i mean grad school as in grad and professional school...
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
As an adjunct professor with loans I don't intend to repay a...
histrionic range patrolman
  12/19/13
Let's not make this a big debate fellas. I think the PAY...
black passionate theatre fat ankles
  12/19/13
...
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
There doesn't seem to be any debate, other than from shithea...
beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native
  12/19/13
...
Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/19/13
Lots of other folks on this board have voiced similar positi...
black passionate theatre fat ankles
  12/19/13
If my wife and I gross 150-200K and have about 130K in loans...
180 amber twinkling uncleanness
  12/19/13
Everyone is eligible bro. Question is whether it takes effec...
black passionate theatre fat ankles
  12/19/13
what the fuck is paye
insanely creepy school cuckoldry
  12/19/13
Does this have to be passed by congress? If so, it'll never ...
Spectacular brunch
  12/19/13
Yes, this is just a proposal.
Stirring duck-like point
  12/19/13
Why do u hate johnsmeyer bro? He's standing right there..
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/19/13
I would benefit from this too. No point in us pour souls ge...
Spectacular brunch
  12/19/13
Sorry bro this is a done deal.
charismatic ultramarine area
  12/19/13
nope
Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/19/13
Not a chance republicans let this go through.
Spectacular brunch
  12/19/13
Passed senate yesterday. LMAO
Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/19/13
So all that's left is for Obama to sign? YES! We're like 3 w...
appetizing bonkers tanning salon
  12/19/13
PAYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/19/13
Call me when it passes the house
Spectacular brunch
  12/19/13
The budget deal that passed in the Senate merely set the fin...
lavender corner degenerate
  12/19/13
Republicans are warning that they will not tolerate any incr...
appetizing bonkers tanning salon
  12/19/13
Republicans are in bed with big education. They will not fi...
charismatic ultramarine area
  12/19/13
What would be your expected time frame for this to go throug...
Spectacular brunch
  12/19/13
Early January at the latest.
charismatic ultramarine area
  12/19/13
Drinks on me if you are right.
Spectacular brunch
  12/19/13
Did this get passed the other day? http://www.politico.co...
black passionate theatre fat ankles
  12/23/13
Nope. House redlined it in the 11th hour.
Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/23/13
stfu
black passionate theatre fat ankles
  12/23/13
Nope/
Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/23/13
Both chambers and the President passed a bill that sets a fi...
lavender corner degenerate
  12/23/13
so, since PAYE expansion will presumable cost $$$, it's pret...
Azure site clown
  12/23/13
Yup. No way this is going to pass.
Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/23/13
not necessarily - there's a calculus to be done on the exten...
Exciting azn senate
  12/27/13
"DOE is saying that they expect paye expansion to be re...
Stirring duck-like point
  12/27/13
Put together, the Administration’s proposal to change the st...
Exciting azn senate
  12/27/13
Sounds like horseshit. Think of the money we will lose from...
Stirring duck-like point
  12/27/13
...
Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/27/13
...
fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
  12/27/13
There's a ton of variables to consider - aside from the micr...
Exciting azn senate
  12/27/13
Lol government accounting.
Lime mood
  12/28/13
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Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/27/13
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Swollen Internal Respiration
  12/30/13
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  02/08/14
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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:22 AM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

As noted above, the Administration’s FY 2014 student loan budget proposes to extend the

President’s Pay As You Earn (PAYE) Repayment initiative to all qualified borrowers.

The CCRAA of 2007 established the Income-Based Repayment (IBR) plan, which capped

monthly loan repayments to help make them affordable based on borrowers’ income and family

size. All Stafford, Grad PLUS, and Consolidation Loans made under either the Direct Loan or

Federal Family Education Loan programs are eligible. Non-Federal loans, loans currently in

default, and Parent PLUS Loans are not eligible for the IBR plan. The IBR program lowers

monthly payments for borrowers who have high loan debt and modest incomes, but it may

increase the length of the loan repayment period, accruing more interest over the life of the loan.

Under CCRAA, monthly payment amounts under IBR were set at 15 percent of a borrower’s

discretionary income, can never be more than the amount required under the 10-year standard

repayment plan, and any outstanding balances remaining after 25 years of IBR repayments are

forgiven.

To further ensure that student debts are manageable, in 2010, SAFRA reduced monthly

payments in IBR from 15 percent to 10 percent, and reduced the maximum length of repayment

from 25 years to 20 years, after which any remaining balance is forgiven. SAFRA makes these

more generous benefits available for new borrowers beginning July 1, 2014. In October 2011,

the Administration announced an initiative—Pay As You Earn—to accelerate these features for

qualified borrowers who were new borrowers as of October 1, 2007, and had received a Direct

Loan disbursement on or after October 1, 2011. Qualified borrowers could apply to participate

starting in December 2012.

The Budget proposes to extend this PAYE plan, starting in FY 2014, to all qualified borrowers

regardless of when borrowers obtained their loans, or became new borrowers, thereby

harmonizing various income-based repayment options available to borrowers.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/budget14/justifications/s-loansoverview.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672737)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:24 AM
Author: irate carnelian chad milk

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672751)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:27 AM
Author: adventurous multi-billionaire mad-dog skullcap

HOLY SHIT NOT FLAME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672776)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:29 AM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

seemingly no one raised a stink about this during budget negotiations. probably because gov't makes a huge profit on student loans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672782)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:28 AM
Author: Azure site clown

Is this real or BS? Can't open link on phone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672779)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:28 AM
Author: mind-boggling self-centered persian goal in life

appears real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672781)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:28 AM
Author: mind-boggling self-centered persian goal in life

so Potus poasts or lurks here?

The 2014 Budget

proposes to extend this plan to all qualified borrowers beginning in FY 2014, regardless of when

borrowers obtained their loans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672780)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:30 AM
Author: Azure site clown

When would this take effect?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672789)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:32 AM
Author: adventurous multi-billionaire mad-dog skullcap

180000000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672809)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:36 AM
Author: adventurous multi-billionaire mad-dog skullcap

I thought for sure this would be flame. 180 as fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672844)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:46 AM
Author: concupiscible address

paye sounds like a bad idea tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672897)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:47 AM
Author: adventurous multi-billionaire mad-dog skullcap

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672906)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:58 AM
Author: concupiscible address

more interest paid?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673001)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:01 PM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

(guy who doesn't understand PAYE at all)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673014)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:08 PM
Author: concupiscible address

didnt see the forgiveness after 20

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673077)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:44 PM
Author: umber trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673298)



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Date: December 28th, 2013 11:23 AM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24725139)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:49 AM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

you seem dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672918)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:55 AM
Author: lavender corner degenerate

lol at you prole deadbeats praying for the manna to fall from the sky. This is one area where I agree with the GOP. The amount outstanding on education loans is now greater than credit card debt. Now we have to give a giant handout to idiots who didn't understand how compounding interest works? Anyway, the President's budget will never pass the House. Extending Paye is a bargaining chip that will quickly be traded away so that spending won't be cut for a constituency that actually votes (olds).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672972)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:57 AM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

(self proclaimed hardcore lib calling students "prole deadbeats", why)

PAYE isn't even on GOP's radar screen. And even if it is, they won't cut from a sympathetic group (students). They need to pick their battles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24672992)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 11:59 AM
Author: lavender corner degenerate

"PAYE isn't even on GOP's radar screen. And even if it is, they won't cut from a sympathetic group (students). They need to pick their battles."

Lol at this. For the GOP it's all about that final budget number. PAYE will be sacrificed early so that neither party will go after any sacred cow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673004)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:01 PM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

Also, I thought the budget already passed the house and senate and is just waiting to be signed by the president. am i wrong on that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673011)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: irradiated dragon

It was a deal to agree on how much money the budget would be, not how to allocate it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673055)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:08 PM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

that's right.

i wasn't sure if it had passed yet. you think anyone will take issue with the student loan modifications?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673086)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:06 PM
Author: Stirring duck-like point

The real battle will be when people start applying for forgiveness of loans that ballooned to $600K over 20 years. The Tax Bomb looms large.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673056)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:07 PM
Author: adventurous multi-billionaire mad-dog skullcap

No tax bomb with PAYE or PSLF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673073)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:10 PM
Author: Stirring duck-like point

(citation needed)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673103)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:22 PM
Author: bespoke abode

http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&mc=60&forum_id=2#24673073

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673952)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:46 PM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration

LOL just STASH DAT YUMMY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673310)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:10 PM
Author: black passionate theatre fat ankles

LOL you are literally the worst poster politically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673099)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:03 PM
Author: black passionate theatre fat ankles

Please confirm not flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673031)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:08 PM
Author: black passionate theatre fat ankles

Uhhh...I told you suckas this was happening a long time ago.

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2251973&mc=147&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673082)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:11 PM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

yea, i remember that actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673110)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:13 PM
Author: black passionate theatre fat ankles

:)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673122)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:10 PM
Author: effete potus

This would greatly increase my lifestyle and ability to do entrepreneurial shit. Would save me like 15k per year right now, of after tax income, so I'd be getting a 20k or so raise, pay less than half as much for twice as long. Fucking hell yes, please.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673102)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:13 PM
Author: concupiscible address

wait, so this doesnt cap interest rates and ties payment to 10% of income.... who is to say this program will even last the 20 years needed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673127)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:25 PM
Author: black passionate theatre fat ankles

Who is to say that the government won't wholesale scrap entire entitlement programs that people acted in reliance upon?

I've got a bridge to sell you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673200)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:23 PM
Author: red aggressive pervert

fucking welfare

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673600)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 12:43 PM
Author: umber trump supporter

wait

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673294)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:55 PM
Author: Cerebral trailer park round eye

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673778)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:26 PM
Author: Lime mood

pay your loans you fucking deadbeats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673615)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:27 PM
Author: irate carnelian chad milk

shut the fuck up earl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673621)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:27 PM
Author: appetizing bonkers tanning salon

*guy whose loans are consolidated at 1%*

*guy who got all the breaks in life: rich parents, good genes, good schools at the right times*

*guy who makes 350K*

fuck you, earl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673624)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:27 PM
Author: irate carnelian chad milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673627)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:30 PM
Author: mind-boggling self-centered persian goal in life

brother obama is the rich parent i never had

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673642)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:37 PM
Author: Lime mood

poor family and got into the good schools with financial aid and loans because I was poor.

I didn't have SAT or LSAT tutors or classes.

I dont think taking out $200K in loans to go to Fordham was any smarter then than it is now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673683)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:42 PM
Author: appetizing bonkers tanning salon

the difference is the fordham grad in 2006 had a 33% chance at biglaw and and an 80-90% chance at something paying more than $75k. now? lol, mom's basement.

and how poor were you exactly? my parents made $45k combined. student loans were my only way out and it turned out to be a bullshit promise. don't give me that shit about being a deadbeat. unlike boomer administrators i wasn't the one trying to rip anyone off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673713)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:51 PM
Author: Lime mood

Between 1992 and 2001 my family had a combined income of less than $30,000 probably closer to $25,000.

I got an almost full ride to go to high school and stanford, which I am eternally grateful for. Which is why I donate money now to my HS and Stanford and not to those greedy NYU pricks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673756)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:57 PM
Author: beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673785)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:00 PM
Author: irate carnelian chad milk

so i guess your point is that you're going to ignore the fact that you've consolidated your loans at a better-than-free-money rate, ignore the great advantage you had by timing the law hiring market, and so on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673793)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:07 PM
Author: Lime mood

great advantage timing the law hiring market? You forget I was laid off and unemployed for 7 months and had to work a much lower paying job for over a year before trying to get back in the game. I am better off than a 2009 grad getting laid off with zero experience sure, but lets not act like I am a boomer partner making 800,000 having never billed more than 1400 hours a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673840)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:10 PM
Author: beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native

You were laid off and collecting unemployment from NY +severance while playing basketball in LA, chilling in Hawaii and boogey-boarding with whokebe. Shut the fuck up already you disingenous creep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673860)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:07 PM
Author: irate carnelian chad milk

relative to this board, you had it fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674174)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:06 PM
Author: appetizing bonkers tanning salon

that's good for you, earl. you are what they call an outlier. you of all people should have some empathy for others who weren't as lucky.

finally, i'll just note that fordham in 2006 really didn't cost $200k. this mortgage-sized debt issue is really just a millennial thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673830)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:56 PM
Author: beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673781)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:11 PM
Author: beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native

Earl deletes my post calling him a creep. Why?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673866)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:15 PM
Author: Lime mood

I didn't delete that. Your post in the other thread got deleted, but you should know better than that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673887)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:17 PM
Author: beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native

Do you really think I believe you? You're a fucking lying creep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673906)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:18 PM
Author: Lime mood

Dont really care if you believe me. If someone else is modding you because they think you are spamming or think you are a shithead I cant help that. I just care about outing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673917)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:20 PM
Author: beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native

You're a shitmod, a liar and a creep. Your pathetic denials are laughable.

And only 1 post I made could possibly be construed as outing, and that was because of the thread title and because everyone already knows your name, dumbfuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673929)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:31 PM
Author: Soul-stirring ape

Absent a bankruptcy Hail Mary, there goes any hope of controlling education costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673648)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:33 PM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

supposedly Obama is also trying to hold schools more accountable and limiting federal funding to those schools that can't comply with those requirements. i think these are probably pretty lax and obviously not enough, but it's the right idea

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673661)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:39 PM
Author: Lime mood

its the wrong approach. If he wants to bail out existing deadbeats, whatever that's not a huge deal. Setting this up as an ongoing plan encourages shitmillenials with nothing better to do to maximize their dead beat status which is stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673690)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:44 PM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

well, my opinion is that this plan is needed in the short run to allow people to go to graduate school.

this also needs to be coupled with reduced federal funding to certain/all schools based on their allocation of costs, expected student outcome, and other factors. then, once schools don't receive enough federal student loans dollars, tuition costs will eventually go down and plans like PAYE may not be necessary.

The problem as it stands now is that grad school is unaffordable for all but the already rich, and students shouldn't be kept out just because they aren't rich. This is why PAYE is currently necessary. They gov't fubared the system, which is what led to PAYE being necessary.

I agree that keeping it as an ongoing plan, without more, only encourages bad behavior from schools. Fed gov't needs to set up stringent conditions on continued receipt of student loan dollars and/or set certain limits on tuition. Then they could still keep PAYE, but then costs would/should remain relatively constant. Right now, there's still no incentive to keep costs down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673731)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 1:53 PM
Author: Lime mood

millenials should not be going to grad schools except for narrow exceptions - i.e. funded PHD programs or good professional schools with a strong chance of a high paying job.

Nobody should be getting a useless masters degree now in anything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673768)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:01 PM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

Sorry, i mean grad school as in grad and professional schools.

useless masters should be culled in the longterm through enacted restrictions on availability of fed loans due to costs as they relate to expected outcomes and availability of other programs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673799)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:00 PM
Author: histrionic range patrolman

As an adjunct professor with loans I don't intend to repay and a trust fund I say huzzah for black Nixon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673794)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:25 PM
Author: black passionate theatre fat ankles

Let's not make this a big debate fellas.

I think the PAYE supporters can acknowledge that this policy will cause tuition to keep going up, enrich useless boomer academics, and incentivize people to waste time, money and resources on useless education. It's not ideal. It would be better if tuition was like 10k and we could pay for it with a summer job like boomers did. A better solution to that end would be to stop loans altogether and allow bankruptcy, forcing higher education to offer degrees that people can actually pay for.

On the other hand PAYE haters should realize that the current situation demands a different approach in the short term. The government fucked everyone over by offering loans and enabling tuition to be so high. Law schools fucked people over by lying. The market fucked over T14 grads who went from 80% biglaw to 40%. You can't make debtors pay money that they don't have. In any other segment of lending, everyone would declare bankruptcy on their 200k debt. For thousands of years, bankruptcy has been considered a sound economic and social practice. No entity should be going around making idiotic loans that don't make sense--if you do that, expect to take a hit. However, suddenly allowing bankruptcy may seem like an unfair windfall in this case, so with PAYE you are still making them pay for 20 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673974)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:27 PM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier
Subject: cr



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24673983)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:30 PM
Author: beady-eyed fiercely-loyal ceo native

There doesn't seem to be any debate, other than from shithead earl.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674005)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:42 PM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674065)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:56 PM
Author: black passionate theatre fat ankles

Lots of other folks on this board have voiced similar positions in the past, but yeah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674116)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:57 PM
Author: 180 amber twinkling uncleanness

If my wife and I gross 150-200K and have about 130K in loans are we eligible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674121)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:01 PM
Author: black passionate theatre fat ankles

Everyone is eligible bro. Question is whether it takes effect or is helpful to you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674151)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 2:59 PM
Author: insanely creepy school cuckoldry

what the fuck is paye

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674138)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:05 PM
Author: Spectacular brunch

Does this have to be passed by congress? If so, it'll never pass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674166)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:08 PM
Author: Stirring duck-like point

Yes, this is just a proposal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674176)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:10 PM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier

Why do u hate johnsmeyer bro? He's standing right there..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674187)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:15 PM
Author: Spectacular brunch

I would benefit from this too. No point in us pour souls getting excited for something that's not happening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674220)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:14 PM
Author: charismatic ultramarine area

Sorry bro this is a done deal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674210)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:14 PM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration

nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674213)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:15 PM
Author: Spectacular brunch

Not a chance republicans let this go through.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674216)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:16 PM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration

Passed senate yesterday. LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674221)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:22 PM
Author: appetizing bonkers tanning salon

So all that's left is for Obama to sign? YES! We're like 3 weeks away from sweet, sweet PAYE relief.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674263)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:23 PM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration

PAYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674264)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:30 PM
Author: Spectacular brunch

Call me when it passes the house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674322)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:39 PM
Author: lavender corner degenerate

The budget deal that passed in the Senate merely set the final budget number. It was lower (by about 10%) than what the final number in the administration's budget and higher than Ryan's budget. Thus, there will have to be things that the Dems cut out of their budget in order to reach the agreed upon number.

"The budget agreement only solves part of the problem. While it sets spending levels, it doesn't actually allocate the money and doesn't specify how the money can be spent.

That battle will begin immediately.

Appropriations Committee members must agree before January 15 -- the deadline set by Congress in October for a new spending plan to be in place -- on how to divvy up the money.

For instance, Republicans will want more money for the military. Democrats will want more money for Head Start programs."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/18/politics/budget-congress-stability/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674376)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:41 PM
Author: appetizing bonkers tanning salon

Republicans are warning that they will not tolerate any increase in funding for administering the troubled healthcare program.

Democrats hope to maintain or add small amounts of money for the program they say will provide insurance for millions of previously uninsured people.

As is the case with all spending bills in a deeply divided Congress, there are plenty of other disagreements besides the Obamacare funding level.

Among the most difficult will be money for the Internal Revenue Service, the nation's tax collector; funds for western wildfire fighting and for the Yucca Mountain, Nevada, nuclear waste repository.

Separate battles also could be waged over policy proposals that House Republican leaders are likely to attach to the funding bill.

These could include forcing the Obama administration to approve a controversial Keystone oil pipeline from Canada to the U.S. Gulf of Mexico.

There also could be moves to stop the Environmental Protection Agency from enforcing carbon emissions regulations that the coal industry hates and to block federal money for building a California high-speed train.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/18/us-usa-fiscal-idUSBRE9BF1FW20131218

Not mentioned: PAYE. YNY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674394)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:18 PM
Author: charismatic ultramarine area

Republicans are in bed with big education. They will not fight this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674246)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:38 PM
Author: Spectacular brunch

What would be your expected time frame for this to go through?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674364)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:40 PM
Author: charismatic ultramarine area

Early January at the latest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674381)



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Date: December 19th, 2013 3:42 PM
Author: Spectacular brunch

Drinks on me if you are right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24674407)



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Date: December 23rd, 2013 1:43 PM
Author: black passionate theatre fat ankles

Did this get passed the other day?

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/12/house-budget-deal-vote-101091.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24698290)



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Date: December 23rd, 2013 1:45 PM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration

Nope. House redlined it in the 11th hour.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24698304)



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Date: December 23rd, 2013 1:50 PM
Author: black passionate theatre fat ankles

stfu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24698344)



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Date: December 23rd, 2013 1:52 PM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration

Nope/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24698368)



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Date: December 23rd, 2013 2:08 PM
Author: lavender corner degenerate

Both chambers and the President passed a bill that sets a final number that the budget must meet. This final number is less than the President's budget and more than the GOP's budget. Congress is now hashing out how they reach the final number. They have until the second week in January.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24698464)



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Date: December 23rd, 2013 2:39 PM
Author: Azure site clown

so, since PAYE expansion will presumable cost $$$, it's pretty much dead in the water?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24698690)



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Date: December 23rd, 2013 2:48 PM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration

Yup. No way this is going to pass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24698755)



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Date: December 27th, 2013 12:58 PM
Author: Exciting azn senate

not necessarily - there's a calculus to be done on the extent that paye will encourage new borrowers/create new demand, how new demand will impact tuition, the rates the new borrowers will get vs lending opportunity cost, the expected default/forgiveness rate and amounts of new borrowers given expected tuition, the expected conversion rate of old borrowers to paye, the loss of revenue from converted old borrowers, and the expected default/forgiveness rate and amount of old pre-2007 borrowers who wont default if given paye but otherwise would default if not given paye.

DOE is saying that they expect paye expansion to be revenue neutral.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24720837)



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Date: December 27th, 2013 12:59 PM
Author: Stirring duck-like point

"DOE is saying that they expect paye expansion to be revenue neutral."

Where are you getting this? This makes no sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24720842)



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Date: December 27th, 2013 1:02 PM
Author: Exciting azn senate

Put together, the Administration’s proposal to change the student loan interest rate structure and extend the Pay As You Earn repayment plan to all qualified student borrowers is budget cost neutral and, thereby, provides a long-term, sustainable solution to ensure students have the certainty they need to plan for the cost of attending college in a fiscally-responsible manner.

http://www2.ed.gov/about/overview/budget/budget14/justifications/s-loansoverview.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24720855)



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Date: December 27th, 2013 1:06 PM
Author: Stirring duck-like point

Sounds like horseshit. Think of the money we will lose from Johnsmeyer alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24720878)



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Date: December 27th, 2013 1:09 PM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24720894)



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Date: December 27th, 2013 1:12 PM
Author: fantasy-prone violet main people sound barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24720911)



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Date: December 27th, 2013 1:14 PM
Author: Exciting azn senate

There's a ton of variables to consider - aside from the micro ones I listed above, there's also the greater policy goal of having more people succeed at starting their own businesses (and people need free cash to do so)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24720920)



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Date: December 28th, 2013 11:24 AM
Author: Lime mood

Lol government accounting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24725149)



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Date: December 27th, 2013 10:54 AM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24720253)



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Date: December 30th, 2013 11:46 AM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24736617)



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Date: February 8th, 2014 8:47 PM
Author: Swollen Internal Respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#24980466)



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Date: February 15th, 2014 12:13 PM
Author: Galvanic haunted graveyard legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2446384&forum_id=2#25023095)