Should I semi-retire next year or take major promotion offered?
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Date: September 8th, 2014 4:19 PM Author: Pale ticket booth
WARNING: HUMBLE BRAGGING. SENSITIVE/ANGRY POSTERS MAY WISH TO AVOID THIS THREAD.
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Many of y'all know I'm trying to retire from full-time corporate work early next year. I won't have much by XO standards (I'm projecting maybe $350k total savings/investments) at that time, but I'm through with working insane hours and being at the behest of a company. I've got decent freelance income which I can easily grow and use to support myself. It'll be a fraction of what I make now and I won't be saving much, but I've calculated that if I just allow my investments to continue compounding, I should hit $2MM sometime in my early 50s, or so. Plus, I'm not really concerned about having all of the fancy trappings many of you want, and would be fine living in Colombia or somewhere else with low COL.
The thing is, I just got offered what in essence would be the biggest promotion of my life - one that would set me up for some great things in my work. I'd be an ingrate to not be extremely excited and not jump all over this. To be honest, though, I'm just not feeling it. I don't want the pressure, the long hours, and most of all, I don't want to derail the efforts I've made to semi-retire next year. I had my heart set on this new, easier lifestyle.
What do I do? Take the promotion and quit after 1 year? Not take it at all and retire right after my annual bonus (they'll be mega pissed if I do this)? Double down on mega-shrewing and focus 100% on career for the next several years with the promotion?
Anyhow, honest advice is welcome. I think all of you have had your chance to insult and mock me to your heart's content by now, so for the purposes of this thread, please limit the nastiness.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26288956)
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Date: September 8th, 2014 5:47 PM Author: Avocado Fighting Cruise Ship Becky
This. Especially smart people. Being smart doesn't mean you should get a job that pays crazy money and requires you to work 80hrs/wk. Being smart means you can take a job that pays decent money that requires you to work 40hrs/wk, but since you're smart, you can do the job in 20 and still look like a good employee. That's why working remotely is 180.
I work remotely a ton, and when I'm not lawyering around, I'm helping with the actual grunt-level work of the company, building it up. But since I'm smart (like most people on xo), I can do crazy shit in half the time it takes anyone else, so I spent a ton of time at home reading, singing, etc. It's so cot damn 180.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26289490) |
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Date: September 8th, 2014 5:50 PM Author: Avocado Fighting Cruise Ship Becky
Thanks. Now MY post is going to sound like humblebragging, but bear with me: I am legit friends with a number of celebrities (actor, couple musicians, director, creative type nominated for Oscar, etc) through a series of just utter dumb luck and never not networking. You know what I've discovered about them? Their lives are equally boring as fuck compared to mine. That is to say, only as boring as we're willing to let it be, since once you reach a sweet spot with income, the thing you run low on is time, not money.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26289517) |
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Date: September 9th, 2014 9:26 AM Author: Pale ticket booth
There are one of 2 possible outcomes in two years:
1)I flame out exhausted & stressed, pissing off everyone who entrusted me with this responsibility and burning huge bridges.
2)I do well, and am golden handcuffed even more tightly to this career path.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26293736) |
Date: September 8th, 2014 4:33 PM Author: Mewling Roommate
You and I have a not dissimilar future. Take the promotion.
You can always leave the better paying job in the future but if you turn this down now, you can't get it back very easily
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26289014) |
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Date: September 8th, 2014 4:40 PM Author: Mewling Roommate
The extra 2-3 years will make a large difference in total net worth.
Only way I'd advise to decline the promotion would be if there was some other life opportunity you would be giving up (e.g., kids)
If nothing like that hangs in the balance, accept the offer.
As I said, you can always quit the job if you really hate it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26289066) |
Date: September 8th, 2014 4:40 PM Author: Startled Offensive Macaca
You're talking about what this would do to "your career" while at the same time you say you want to retire soon and regain your life?
That doesn't make a lot of sense. If you still care about your career, then don't quit and work on your career despite long hours and responsibilities.
If you care about having time for yourself and freedom, you can't care about your career at the same time.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26289058) |
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Date: September 8th, 2014 4:54 PM Author: Heady parlour karate
If you have 350k invested you can reasonable conservatively expect 4% return.
Once interest rates go up, eventually you'll be able to put a lot of that in long term CD's paying 6% or more.
Even with less freelance income, like 2k, you still can easily survive in Colombia where I imagine you would not even spend 1.5k a month assuming guys are buying your drinks/dinners
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26289164) |
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Date: September 8th, 2014 4:57 PM Author: Pale ticket booth
That's standard for major corporate clients/publications.
I was an editor of several major financial sites, so I know all the commissioning editors.
People who are truly famous writers get like $1000+ an article from corporates
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26289180) |
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Date: September 9th, 2014 9:24 AM Author: Pale ticket booth
I have never made that much freelancing, and never said I did.
I said I usually make $2500-3000, but could double that if I went f/t freelance in order to make 5-6k.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26293718)
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Date: September 8th, 2014 4:44 PM Author: Heady parlour karate
If you are tired of working the credited answer is to find a rich older guy, marry him, live off him, and then divorce pwn him. I am serious- you have a choice and option that no man has.
If you can get decent freelance income while being semi retired in Colombia then just do that. Working is shit. You won't remember the faggot promotion you passed on when you are 60 plus years old. Don't listen to all these aspies who have been brainwashed by this shit society
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26289095) |
Date: September 8th, 2014 5:18 PM Author: appetizing geriatric space
Also no offense, how the fuck are you engaged? It seems this mystical fiance plays no role at all in any of the life/moving/career decisions you want to make every 3 months.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26289294)
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Date: September 8th, 2014 5:57 PM Author: Rambunctious french chef
r u planning on kids soon
if ur making quite a bit already an extra 50k is chump change since ur marginal tax rate is like 50%
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26289556) |
Date: September 8th, 2014 11:35 PM Author: mentally impaired indian lodge
Take the promotion. Even if you only do it for a couple of years you'll have established yourself at that higher level of seniority in case you ever want to go back and get a job.
Plus you're only 34 and $350K really isn't a big nest egg to semi-retire on. Even another $50-100K is going to make a big difference plus give you some insulation against an adverse life event that forces you to dip into your savings.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26291861) |
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Date: September 9th, 2014 9:22 AM Author: Pale ticket booth
It isn't worth it to me. I want to enjoy what remains of my relative youth.
IF money grows scarce, I might return to f/t work in my 40s.
The biggest problem I see with this is turning down a career path that might make me one of the most powerful people in my industry by the time I'm 40. I've had a VP title before and am not impressed by that or by the extra money. The interesting work this path affords me, powerful position and visibility would be 180, though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26293713) |
Date: September 9th, 2014 11:51 AM Author: Pale ticket booth
Alright, I'm leaning toward taking it. The promotion should put me at about $250k all-in the first year, and hopefully closer to $275-300 the next, so I'll be able to save another $150-200k, or so in the next couple of years. I HAVE to bail after that, though, because I need to have kids in 2-3 years, and my hours won't allow for it. Well, it's that or I get a full-time nanny or have my kid raised by my family in Colombia.
Fuck. None of this sounds appealing. I don't really *need* the money and doubling down on this lifestyle nauseates me.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2668837&forum_id=2#26294423) |
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