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Think i fucked my career by clerking

HYS -->1 year biglaw -->COA & Dist court in second...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
should copped dat scotus bro
Maniacal Fanboi
  09/24/14
sounds like you aren't a very good lawyer
Mind-boggling doobsian hunting ground nowag
  09/24/14
how could anyone tell? I've only practiced for 1 year.
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
1 year is enough
Mind-boggling doobsian hunting ground nowag
  09/24/14
well, like most biglaw associates after 1 year, i don't know...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
word gets around
titillating kitty cat
  09/24/14
I can tell from the OP.
Arrogant curious church building cumskin
  09/24/14
This did not happen because the market is iNsAnE right now. ...
motley at-the-ready locale
  09/24/14
Bro, I'm a 4th year that has practiced for 1 year. what the...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
Why did you do the second clerkship? You can lateral afte...
motley at-the-ready locale
  09/24/14
in retrospect it was a mistake. I bought into the "you ...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
Clerking is 99 percent not a wrong move. Sucks if it was fo...
Arrogant curious church building cumskin
  09/24/14
i mean it's not totally a one.wrong.move situation because I...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
that's incorrect, over
Arrogant curious church building cumskin
  09/24/14
tons of my classmates seem to have done it, even the litttig...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
ummm that sounds pretty awesome. a 2 year vacation with guar...
Nubile boyish institution mediation
  09/24/14
this is a 3L flame thread by an insane prestige whore applyi...
Arrogant curious church building cumskin
  09/24/14
cr. jumped in too fast.
Nubile boyish institution mediation
  09/24/14
nobody's applying to clerkships as a 3L at this time. timel...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
this is tru. judges are hiring incoming 2Ls now to clerk upo...
Nubile boyish institution mediation
  09/24/14
No one wants third year litigators. If he was BLS to lower ...
Flesh haunted graveyard
  09/24/14
at least I could go back to the first firm. Now I just gott...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
5th year is ideal lateral time bro.
Arrogant curious church building cumskin
  09/24/14
maybe so bro, but I find it hard to believe that one additio...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
It will, but litigation is very market and specialty depende...
Flesh haunted graveyard
  09/24/14
what specialties?
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
You're obviously a shitty applicant. You did 1 year of bigla...
Splenetic Costumed Rehab
  09/24/14
Why is the "hadn't worked in before" relevant?
naked filthy boltzmann
  09/24/14
I also find it odd that apparently his first year of biglaw...
naked filthy boltzmann
  09/24/14
I think going back to original firms is key from what I've s...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
Summer & start at NYC biglaw 1 year later disappear to ...
Splenetic Costumed Rehab
  09/24/14
that's fair. I guess I just don't see it as being *THAT* muc...
naked filthy boltzmann
  09/24/14
NYC SA --> double flyover --> CA biglaw is still quite...
Splenetic Costumed Rehab
  09/24/14
Yea I hear you - I just know lots of people (c/o 2012) that ...
naked filthy boltzmann
  09/24/14
yup.
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
Try to specialize in something. Shitigation is your problem...
bull headed razzmatazz hall codepig
  09/24/14
...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
...
Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part
  09/24/14
just come in as a second year
Bat-shit-crazy demanding spot love of her life
  09/24/14
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Brilliant Bat Shit Crazy Senate
  01/27/15


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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:00 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

HYS -->1 year biglaw -->COA & Dist court in secondary city (e.g., boston, baltimore, atlanta, etc.)

Spent all spring/summer applying to firms and didn't get any bites. Had to go back to my original firm, which I didn't want to do - both because its a miserable place to work and because it's on the wrong coast. I can't lateral immediately, because that looks weird, and by the time I wait a year, I'll be a 5th year, which is starting to get a little too old to lateral.

Got fucked right in the pussy. One.wrong.move.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26385935)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:01 AM
Author: Maniacal Fanboi

should copped dat scotus bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26385940)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:01 AM
Author: Mind-boggling doobsian hunting ground nowag

sounds like you aren't a very good lawyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26385941)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:03 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

how could anyone tell? I've only practiced for 1 year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26385952)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:09 AM
Author: Mind-boggling doobsian hunting ground nowag

1 year is enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26385992)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:11 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

well, like most biglaw associates after 1 year, i don't know shit about shit - so it's certainly possible. at least my current employer didn't notice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386008)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:11 AM
Author: titillating kitty cat

word gets around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386000)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:24 AM
Author: Arrogant curious church building cumskin

I can tell from the OP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386082)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:11 AM
Author: motley at-the-ready locale

This did not happen because the market is iNsAnE right now. No chance HLS and COA don't land you multiple V25's.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386006)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:12 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

Bro, I'm a 4th year that has practiced for 1 year. what the fuck are firms supposed to do with me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386017)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:21 AM
Author: motley at-the-ready locale

Why did you do the second clerkship?

You can lateral after 6-12 months back at the firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386069)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:22 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

in retrospect it was a mistake. I bought into the "you can never go wrong by clerking" bullshit they pushed at my school. I also thought it would be more interesting than another year of biglaw- and was right about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386074)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:24 AM
Author: Arrogant curious church building cumskin

Clerking is 99 percent not a wrong move. Sucks if it was for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386086)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:29 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

i mean it's not totally a one.wrong.move situation because I am gainfully (albeit unhappily employed), had 2 chill years where I got in excellent shape and fucked lots of women, and got a nice clerkship bonus. But I do think I would have had more options to move around (and especially to move cross-country) had I stayed at my firm and never clerked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386108)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:33 AM
Author: Arrogant curious church building cumskin

that's incorrect, over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386128)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:34 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

tons of my classmates seem to have done it, even the litttigators.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386135)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:40 AM
Author: Nubile boyish institution mediation

ummm that sounds pretty awesome. a 2 year vacation with guaranteed jerb waiting for you and 4th year salary plus clerkship bonus. wrt to lateraling, not sure how much it makes up for lacking that RIGOROUS BIGLAW LITIGATION EXPERIENCE that 2nd-3rd years have, but i presume you're a good writer at this point (you'd have to be) and it's a solid list of credentials.

clerking was the best year of my life since college, btw. lol at mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386163)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:41 AM
Author: Arrogant curious church building cumskin

this is a 3L flame thread by an insane prestige whore applying to clerkships

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386172)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:42 AM
Author: Nubile boyish institution mediation

cr. jumped in too fast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386179)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:44 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

nobody's applying to clerkships as a 3L at this time. timeline's changed man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386191)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 8:03 PM
Author: Nubile boyish institution mediation

this is tru. judges are hiring incoming 2Ls now to clerk upon graduation, or at least some federal Circuit Court judges are. fucking weird.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26390589)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:13 AM
Author: Flesh haunted graveyard

No one wants third year litigators. If he was BLS to lower V100 tranny he would have V25s pounding down his door.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386022)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:19 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

at least I could go back to the first firm. Now I just gotta figure out how to leave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386062)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:23 AM
Author: Arrogant curious church building cumskin

5th year is ideal lateral time bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386079)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:26 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

maybe so bro, but I find it hard to believe that one additional year at a firm is going to make me that much more attractive when I got 0 interest off the clerkship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386097)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:54 AM
Author: Flesh haunted graveyard

It will, but litigation is very market and specialty dependent right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386230)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:58 AM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

what specialties?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386249)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 11:11 AM
Author: Splenetic Costumed Rehab

You're obviously a shitty applicant. You did 1 year of biglaw, where you developed no useful skills. Then you clerked for 2 years in a market you don't want to work in and hadn't worked in before, and apparently also learned no useful skills (or couldn't communicate them). Now you're applying to biglaw firms who don't know you from Adam and want to show up and take home a 4th year paycheck (plus bonus!) when you act like just another idiot 2nd year. Color me shocked that random firms aren't beating down your door.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26387591)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 11:39 AM
Author: naked filthy boltzmann

Why is the "hadn't worked in before" relevant?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26387729)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 11:48 AM
Author: naked filthy boltzmann

I also find it odd that apparently his first year of biglaw makes all the difference. There are lots of two-clerkship (in random markets) people running around, they all get hired as third-years. Maybe they are mostly going back to their original firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26387776)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 6:46 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

I think going back to original firms is key from what I've seen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26390201)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 6:51 PM
Author: Splenetic Costumed Rehab

Summer & start at NYC biglaw

1 year later disappear to Atlanta to clerk

2 years later mass mail west coast biglaw

Of course this strategy doesn't work. Recruiters see somebody without ties or a connection from his clerkship who ran away from his firm after a year, and assume he either got pushed out or can't cut it. Clerkships are a great credential if you leverage them well. Clerking in a random non- coastal market you don't want to practice in as a way to swap east coast biglaw for west coast biglaw is just a terrible strategy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26390229)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 6:56 PM
Author: naked filthy boltzmann

that's fair. I guess I just don't see it as being *THAT* much different than lots of people I know who did SA in NYC + Flyover Dct + Flyover COA immediately after graduating.

And given that so many judges (everywhere - not just NYC) hire for a year out these days, it just seems like his pattern should be pretty common.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26390259)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 7:06 PM
Author: Splenetic Costumed Rehab

NYC SA --> double flyover --> CA biglaw is still quite a challenge. I don't know why lawyers think they can act like mercenaries, move all over the country and not get dinged as flight risks or drifters. I guarantee you OP didn't summer on the west coast and didn't take a west coast bar prior to applying. Gibson Dunn's LA office really doesn't need a 4th year licensed in NY with local experience in Des Moines and Cleveland. Frankly OP should be thankful his NYC firm took him back AND paid him a bonus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26390305)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 7:09 PM
Author: naked filthy boltzmann

Yea I hear you - I just know lots of people (c/o 2012) that did something very similar to that.

Edit: I also am not sure the 'mercenary' thing applies to clerkships given how common it is to end up in the middle of nowhere - but I may have also bought into the clerkship bullshit thrown out by my school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26390328)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 9:55 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part

yup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26391354)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 2:01 AM
Author: bull headed razzmatazz hall codepig

Try to specialize in something. Shitigation is your problem, not the clerking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26386269)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 1:46 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26388330)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 6:45 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Casino Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26390198)



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Date: September 24th, 2014 8:02 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy demanding spot love of her life

just come in as a second year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#26390582)



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Date: January 27th, 2015 4:43 PM
Author: Brilliant Bat Shit Crazy Senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2682668&forum_id=2#27198191)