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Girlfriend cheated. what do?

been dating for about 9 months -- she blacked out and made o...
Painfully honest tanning salon
  02/22/15
yeah, you gotta move on for a myriad of reasons
peach dysfunction community account
  02/22/15
2 chicks at the same time
Fragrant hilarious national sex offender
  02/22/15
Yeah. This is why chicks shouldn't really be going out and g...
Ruddy misanthropic spot toaster
  02/22/15
don't necessarily think this is true in all cases.
peach dysfunction community account
  02/22/15
If you can't trust a girl not to cheat on you everytime she ...
Clear location selfie
  02/22/15
I trusted her. didn't think it was a big deal since she's ve...
Painfully honest tanning salon
  02/22/15
Clearly your trust was misplaced. Sounds like you already br...
Clear location selfie
  02/22/15
Everytime she has a drink =/= blackout drunk. Sorry, but ...
Ruddy misanthropic spot toaster
  02/22/15
Holy fucking LOL if you believe this
Clear location selfie
  02/22/15
RSF is right on the money here. Don't buy into the aspie fla...
peach dysfunction community account
  02/22/15
Is "blacked out" new millennial slang for making o...
Razzmatazz national security agency
  02/22/15
180
Razzle Tank Old Irish Cottage
  02/22/15
!
Infuriating faggotry nowag
  02/22/15
brilliant combination of bbc and turned out
Amber zombie-like macaca dilemma
  02/23/15
dump describe her reaction
Nofapping Stubborn Wrinkle
  02/22/15
If she was drunk, then she couldn't consent, and was therefo...
Abnormal Clown
  02/22/15
...
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  02/22/15
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translucent karate piazza
  02/22/15
Lol
Multi-colored pit mood
  02/22/15
...
Orchid pocket flask heaven
  02/22/15
tyft
beta plaza masturbator
  02/22/15
...
stirring whorehouse stain
  02/22/15
where were you?
Fragrant hilarious national sex offender
  02/22/15
different event
Painfully honest tanning salon
  02/22/15
different places on a Sat. night , making out with another d...
Fragrant hilarious national sex offender
  02/22/15
apparently not
Painfully honest tanning salon
  02/22/15
get back in the game asap. it's easier than ever to do this ...
Fragrant hilarious national sex offender
  02/22/15
thanks d00d
Painfully honest tanning salon
  02/22/15
Anal. Dump.
vivacious chrome church building volcanic crater
  02/22/15
>she blacked out Lol, no she didn't.
lime glittery windowlicker
  02/22/15
cr. probably not tbh
Painfully honest tanning salon
  02/22/15
how does she know if she was blacked out?
laughsome field psychic
  02/22/15
hmmmmmm scientists???
Orchid pocket flask heaven
  02/22/15
Cr
Curious Awkward School Ape
  02/22/15
Good response. She's now your ex-girlfriend. If you haven't ...
Hideous French Range Mother
  02/22/15
Girl who gets black-out drunk is no bueno anyway dood. Just ...
hateful sienna step-uncle's house crotch
  02/22/15
how'd she tell you?
bateful state
  02/22/15
Ask her if you can clean out the creampie next time.
Demanding concupiscible box office therapy
  02/22/15
if not flame, be European about it. mistakes happen, don't l...
harsh floppy business firm degenerate
  02/22/15
Cr.
Odious space death wish
  02/22/15
Is it possible for you to fuck her ass one last time? At lea...
indecent corner partner
  02/22/15
Revenge porn
salmon casino
  02/22/15
No need to be a butthurt child about it. Just block, ignore ...
Clear location selfie
  02/22/15
Wasn't a serious answer
salmon casino
  02/22/15
...
beady-eyed copper round eye locale
  02/22/15
...
beady-eyed copper round eye locale
  02/22/15
(jjc actually blank bumping his own post without even changi...
Clear location selfie
  02/22/15
It certainly could be on xoxo
Clear location selfie
  02/22/15
...
beady-eyed copper round eye locale
  02/22/15
Lol, you are a fantastically mentally ill loser :) Still mad...
Clear location selfie
  02/22/15
Lol at xo getting so up in arms because of a little drunken ...
Odious space death wish
  02/22/15
cr I'm shocked at the anti-intellectual attitudes here.
irradiated faggot firefighter house
  02/22/15
...
heady fighting halford
  02/22/15
(intellectual)
beta plaza masturbator
  02/22/15
(cuck who feels SECURE and PROUD watching Darnell pleasure h...
lime glittery windowlicker
  02/22/15
The point is that if you can't trust her not to do this then...
peach dysfunction community account
  02/22/15
Use this as leverage to get something you want--anal, 3some,...
Odious space death wish
  02/22/15
This is actually the credited response. Or just do an open r...
tantric zippy bawdyhouse
  02/22/15
You are not going to be able to fuck 20 year old girls In 20...
olive motley fanboi haunted graveyard
  02/23/15
Why not? I'm pushing 40 and I have very little difficulty fi...
tantric zippy bawdyhouse
  02/23/15
what is poly
Racy Plum Gaming Laptop Chapel
  02/23/15
You are morally obligated to fuck her best friend or sister.
Infuriating faggotry nowag
  02/22/15
If you didn't witness everything, chances are she did much w...
aggressive public bath
  02/22/15
I'd say getting fingered on the dance floor out at the bar i...
low-t shrine jewess
  02/23/15
...
Racy Plum Gaming Laptop Chapel
  02/23/15
Yeah, cr. It's over.
stirring whorehouse stain
  02/22/15
Break up with her. /thread.
boyish narrow-minded jap
  02/22/15
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fiercely-loyal deer antler keepsake machete
  02/22/15
...
fiercely-loyal deer antler keepsake machete
  02/22/15
Slide
heady fighting halford
  02/23/15
It's nice of you to wish her well. Moving on sounds like the...
Soul-stirring buck-toothed foreskin locus
  02/23/15
:) what do? do the pumo! http://pumo.ytmnd.com
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  02/23/15


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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:07 PM
Author: Painfully honest tanning salon

been dating for about 9 months -- she blacked out and made out with another guy at a bar

already deleted number. not planning on doing anything crazy. will wish her well with her future and move on. credited?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369072)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:08 PM
Author: peach dysfunction community account

yeah, you gotta move on for a myriad of reasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369074)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:08 PM
Author: Fragrant hilarious national sex offender

2 chicks at the same time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369077)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:10 PM
Author: Ruddy misanthropic spot toaster

Yeah. This is why chicks shouldn't really be going out and getting drunk when they're in relationships, and moreso that you shouldn't be in serious relationships with them while they are young enough that this is happening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369084)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:11 PM
Author: peach dysfunction community account

don't necessarily think this is true in all cases.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369092)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:13 PM
Author: Clear location selfie

If you can't trust a girl not to cheat on you everytime she has a drink then you shouldn't be dating. JFC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369108)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: Painfully honest tanning salon

I trusted her. didn't think it was a big deal since she's very social...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369114)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:16 PM
Author: Clear location selfie

Clearly your trust was misplaced. Sounds like you already broke up, so it's done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369128)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:16 PM
Author: Ruddy misanthropic spot toaster

Everytime she has a drink =/= blackout drunk.

Sorry, but there are almost no girls staying completely faithful at 2 am after 7 drinks in a dance club with everyone grinding and making out around them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369129)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:20 PM
Author: Clear location selfie

Holy fucking LOL if you believe this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369157)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:21 PM
Author: peach dysfunction community account

RSF is right on the money here. Don't buy into the aspie flame on this bort. Still, OP needs to dump this bitch if he hasn't already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369163)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: Razzmatazz national security agency

Is "blacked out" new millennial slang for making out with a black bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369115)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:21 PM
Author: Razzle Tank Old Irish Cottage

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369533)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:51 PM
Author: Infuriating faggotry nowag

!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369708)



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Date: February 23rd, 2015 3:04 PM
Author: Amber zombie-like macaca dilemma

brilliant combination of bbc and turned out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27376962)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:14 PM
Author: Nofapping Stubborn Wrinkle

dump

describe her reaction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369117)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:15 PM
Author: Abnormal Clown

If she was drunk, then she couldn't consent, and was therefore raped. She will need your support in the coming months.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369123)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:18 PM
Author: Crusty mental disorder stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369144)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:22 PM
Author: translucent karate piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369175)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:37 PM
Author: Multi-colored pit mood

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369270)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:28 PM
Author: Orchid pocket flask heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369578)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:42 PM
Author: beta plaza masturbator

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369655)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 3:11 PM
Author: stirring whorehouse stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369778)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:16 PM
Author: Fragrant hilarious national sex offender

where were you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369126)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:17 PM
Author: Painfully honest tanning salon

different event

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369130)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:21 PM
Author: Fragrant hilarious national sex offender

different places on a Sat. night , making out with another dude. doesn't sound like a strong relationship.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369165)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:24 PM
Author: Painfully honest tanning salon

apparently not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369193)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:27 PM
Author: Fragrant hilarious national sex offender

get back in the game asap. it's easier than ever to do this now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369211)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:20 PM
Author: Painfully honest tanning salon

thanks d00d

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369526)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:17 PM
Author: vivacious chrome church building volcanic crater

Anal.

Dump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369132)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:18 PM
Author: lime glittery windowlicker

>she blacked out

Lol, no she didn't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369143)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:19 PM
Author: Painfully honest tanning salon

cr. probably not tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369150)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:20 PM
Author: laughsome field psychic

how does she know if she was blacked out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369156)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:29 PM
Author: Orchid pocket flask heaven

hmmmmmm scientists???

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369579)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:21 PM
Author: Curious Awkward School Ape

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369166)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:25 PM
Author: Hideous French Range Mother

Good response. She's now your ex-girlfriend. If you haven't already, let her know maturely and clearly that it's over. Move on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369197)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:38 PM
Author: hateful sienna step-uncle's house crotch

Girl who gets black-out drunk is no bueno anyway dood. Just move on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369276)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 1:39 PM
Author: bateful state

how'd she tell you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369278)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:28 PM
Author: Demanding concupiscible box office therapy

Ask her if you can clean out the creampie next time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369575)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:30 PM
Author: harsh floppy business firm degenerate

if not flame, be European about it. mistakes happen, don't lose your shit if she's worth it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369595)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:41 PM
Author: Odious space death wish

Cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369643)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:35 PM
Author: indecent corner partner

Is it possible for you to fuck her ass one last time? At least get a good blow job out of it.

Then toss her to the curb.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369622)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:36 PM
Author: salmon casino

Revenge porn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369626)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:41 PM
Author: Clear location selfie

No need to be a butthurt child about it. Just block, ignore and move on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369644)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:44 PM
Author: salmon casino

Wasn't a serious answer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369664)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:45 PM
Author: beady-eyed copper round eye locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369670)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:50 PM
Author: beady-eyed copper round eye locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369701)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 3:27 PM
Author: Clear location selfie

(jjc actually blank bumping his own post without even changing monikers)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369846)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:54 PM
Author: Clear location selfie

It certainly could be on xoxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369718)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:57 PM
Author: beady-eyed copper round eye locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369732)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:59 PM
Author: Clear location selfie

Lol, you are a fantastically mentally ill loser :) Still mad I GAPED you jjc you psychotic NOWAG dork? Before you claim not to be jjc, here's the link to the threads started by that pumo: http://www.json999.com/xo2/threads.php?a=....%2C...%2C....%2C%2C%2C......%2C......%2C....%2C%2C%2C....%2C. LOLOLOL you pathetic loser.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369740)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:42 PM
Author: Odious space death wish

Lol at xo getting so up in arms because of a little drunken making out. You guys are all incredibly insecure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369654)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:45 PM
Author: irradiated faggot firefighter house

cr I'm shocked at the anti-intellectual attitudes here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369666)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 3:24 PM
Author: heady fighting halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369828)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:47 PM
Author: beta plaza masturbator

(intellectual)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369688)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 3:03 PM
Author: lime glittery windowlicker

(cuck who feels SECURE and PROUD watching Darnell pleasure his girlfriend with his superior BBC)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369747)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 3:27 PM
Author: peach dysfunction community account

The point is that if you can't trust her not to do this then how could you trust her enough to share your life with her?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369845)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:44 PM
Author: Odious space death wish

Use this as leverage to get something you want--anal, 3some, poly, pee play, whatever you're into.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369659)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 10:08 PM
Author: tantric zippy bawdyhouse

This is actually the credited response. Or just do an open relationship. Yes, she might take some BBC now. But trust me bro, it will be worth it in about 15-20 years. Your wife will be wrinkled, gray, and fat, and nobody will want to fuck her, least of all you. But if you're a reasonably successful dude, you will have no problem slaying 20-year-old pussy. Or you can just fuck escorts. Personally I'd be very happy to let my gf take some BBC now if I can slay 20-year-old pussy for the rest of my life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27372625)



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Date: February 23rd, 2015 5:14 AM
Author: olive motley fanboi haunted graveyard

You are not going to be able to fuck 20 year old girls In 20 years you idiot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27375105)



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Date: February 23rd, 2015 1:07 PM
Author: tantric zippy bawdyhouse

Why not? I'm pushing 40 and I have very little difficulty finding girls in their early 20's who are willing to fuck me. Sure, age will be a deal breaker for many of them, but there are plenty of girls who love it when a successful older guy takes them to dinner at a fancy restaurant or takes them on a weekend vacation. You just need to have money/prestige, be reasonably good looking, and not totally aspie. And you can always fuck escorts even if you are ugly/aspie. The only men who are opposed to open relationships are betas who would never be able to get pussy outside their main relationship anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27376357)



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Date: February 23rd, 2015 3:02 PM
Author: Racy Plum Gaming Laptop Chapel

what is poly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27376954)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 2:53 PM
Author: Infuriating faggotry nowag

You are morally obligated to fuck her best friend or sister.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369714)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 3:12 PM
Author: aggressive public bath

If you didn't witness everything, chances are she did much worse. Women have knack for releasing tiny snippets of info and seeing how you respond. She probably blew him in the bathroom or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369780)



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Date: February 23rd, 2015 1:40 PM
Author: low-t shrine jewess

I'd say getting fingered on the dance floor out at the bar is also likely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27376516)



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Date: February 23rd, 2015 3:02 PM
Author: Racy Plum Gaming Laptop Chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27376955)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 3:12 PM
Author: stirring whorehouse stain

Yeah, cr. It's over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369783)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 3:12 PM
Author: boyish narrow-minded jap

Break up with her.

/thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27369784)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 4:33 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal deer antler keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27370114)



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Date: February 22nd, 2015 4:35 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal deer antler keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27370120)



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Date: February 23rd, 2015 1:12 PM
Author: heady fighting halford

Slide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2814923&forum_id=2#27376386)



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Date: February 23rd, 2015 1:13 PM
Author: Soul-stirring buck-toothed foreskin locus

It's nice of you to wish her well. Moving on sounds like the right choice.

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Date: February 23rd, 2015 1:17 PM
Author: startling pisswyrm

:) what do?

do the pumo!

http://pumo.ytmnd.com

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