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Date: August 20th, 2017 8:56 AM Author: Spectacular Location Minor increase in scope and size of operations announced with great fanfare (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030215) |
Date: August 20th, 2017 8:58 AM Author: pea-brained brindle community account Spoiler: no one cares (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030219) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:01 AM Author: Spectacular Location I wonder why Americans give the government a pass for how badly we fucked up in Afghanistan. Nobody seems to pay attention to it for some reason (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030222) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:08 AM Author: ocher apoplectic ticket booth Or Iraq, or Libya, or for that matter Korea or basically everywhere else we send troops because our army is run by incompetent politicians and not generals.
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:09 AM Author: costumed racy step-uncle's house i think it has something to do with their having been broad agreement that the start of our involvement there was necessary. the taliban needed to go, so its seen as more of a just conflict than say iraq for example. it is getting a little ridiculous 15 years on that the place is just as fucked up as ever, but i reckon people ignore it mostly due to the complexity of the situation, the vague idea that we broke it so we have a responsibility to hold it together and the fact that there are more egregious examples of american interventionism to complain about, i.e. the iraq debacle
gotta think people will start asking more questions as we're approaching the two decade mark in afghanistan tho |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:13 AM Author: ocher apoplectic ticket booth LJL at the "complexity" of the situation. You do understand that the entire Afghan adventure is just a giant exercise is corruption, right? They spent $2 trillion over 15 years on a a country with a population of 34 million. That is $57,700 per person in a country with a per capita median annual wage of +/- $700. Just by giving every man woman and child in Afghanistan a check for $57,000 we could have turned it into a modern functional society. Instead we gave the money to Lockheed Martin and Raytheon for killing machines at insane markup to be used against illiterate cave dwellers. LJL.
We spend $4k per Afghan per year on trying to kill them. LJL. Just give them the money and watch the country develop. |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:14 AM Author: Spectacular Location Lmao at giving 57,000 to every citizen resulting in a functional society in that shithole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030241) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:16 AM Author: costumed racy step-uncle's house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030246) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:19 AM Author: ocher apoplectic ticket booth It would certainly prevent the 80% of unemployed young men from pulling guns at every opportunity because they would be too busy playing Halo or some such shit. Money solves these conflicts. You know how we really won in Chechnya? We turned the Chechens into farmers. They all grow grapes now and farm chickens instead of killing people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030252) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:20 AM Author: pea-brained brindle community account No it wouldn't. It would end up in the hands of a few corrupt government officials and every Afghan would have 10 Motorola flip phones. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030255) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:23 AM Author: ocher apoplectic ticket booth Good. It would give the proles their circus and cement an elite and end literal anarchy. What drives extremist movements is unemployment. Give the proles males age 14-27 something to do and there are no more extremists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030261) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 10:35 AM Author: beady-eyed coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030477) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:15 AM Author: costumed racy step-uncle's house not sure why im replying to a flamebot, but this misses the point entirely. afghanistan is complex, there are many warring factions, its not simply a question of there being a good side and a bad side. this causes most observers just to ignore the whole thing rather than to be outrages about our mismanagement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030244) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:17 AM Author: ocher apoplectic ticket booth Yeah, this is nonsense. Afghanistan is series of city states each controlled by different ethnic groups. This is neither a historically unique phenomena or particularly complex. In the North you have Tajiks and Uzbeks and in the South you have Pashtuns. The Tajiks and Uzbeks are loyal to Tajikistan and Uzbekistan and go back and forth and guess what -- they all speak Russian and work for the FSB. The Pashtuns are savage and just need killing. That's about the complexity of the whole thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030249) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:24 AM Author: Spectacular Location I suppose this simplicity is why Russia's occupation went so swimmingly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030268) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:31 AM Author: ocher apoplectic ticket booth It did for the first 6 years and then the US started funding and arming the opposition. Great power proxy wars are very different thing to what you are facing now. The Soviets faced virtually no opposition from 1979-1984. Virtually all of their casualties were from 1984 onwards when the US got involved. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030289) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:13 AM Author: Spectacular Location Hopefully you're right.
I also think it spanning three administrations helps give it political cover. Sure, a Dem could say the Republicans fucked it all up when they were in charge (or vice versa), but Americans don't hear details. |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:13 AM Author: pea-brained brindle community account Because we nownfivht fhese small scale limited wars without any meaningfully sacrsfice by the general population or elites.
No real increase in taxes, no sacrifice in consumption, only an extremely small (<3%) of the population serves in the military.
We are now essentially like Rome - fighting small wars in Gaul and Brittania that don't affect the decadent populace back home. |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:15 AM Author: Spectacular Location I hate that shit. A lot of Americans have sacrificed a lot for Afghanistan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030245) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:18 AM Author: pea-brained brindle community account "A lot" relative to the whole population? "A lot" relative to previous conflicts?
It hasn't impacted the whole population in a meaningful way.
I was there, I know people who were killed. You can bet your ass they and their families sacraficed, but the vast majority of Americans haven't sacrificed shit for wars like Afghanistan (and even Iraq). |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:22 AM Author: Spectacular Location I know. That's why I hate how it's essentially ignored. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030260) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:32 AM Author: pea-brained brindle community account Oh, yeah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030293) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:42 AM Author: jet marvelous friendly grandma market truth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030313) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:23 AM Author: jet marvelous friendly grandma market part of the virtue signaling culture. they complain about it to be morally superior, but they don't really care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030265) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:51 AM Author: French Filthy Idea He Suggested I think we should cease all operations in Afghanistan but I'll keep my mouth shut shut because I'm unwilling to do anything about it and don't want to signal any virtue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030337) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:02 AM Author: ocher apoplectic ticket booth 5000 more troops into the grinder thus guaranteeing 2000 more fucked up lives and PTSD cases. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030224) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:03 AM Author: Spectacular Location 5,000 wouldn't surprise me. What about embedment with blue uniforms? I vote yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030225) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 11:42 AM Author: pea-brained brindle community account Those embedment programs are a disaster. The goddamn Afghan police are more likely to shoot our troops than the Taliban/haqqani. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030755) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 9:51 AM Author: French Filthy Idea He Suggested Sad! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030342) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 10:15 AM Author: flickering slimy plaza 10,000 additional troops to stabilize the poppy fields for Trump's new line of pharmaceuticals, "Trumpium" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030419) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 10:29 AM Author: Slippery Chocolate Senate Ladyboy Maybe he'll pull us out. Trump is nothing if not a showman. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030461) |
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Date: August 20th, 2017 11:19 AM Author: Lime Splenetic Brunch Literally going to hand the entire war off to a reconstituted Blackwater. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3706592&forum_id=2#34030623) |