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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:26 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck so why does xo oppose abortion again? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245415) |
Date: September 19th, 2017 5:27 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret I value human life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245420) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:27 PM Author: bearded slimy corner dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245425) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:29 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck wouldn't, er, that principal encourage you to take the opposite position?
(Blacks are human--but they take lots and lots of human life) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:30 PM Author: Charismatic maize community account digit ratio Re-read OP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245438) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:30 PM Author: smoky brethren Don't you think it's kinda weird to value an embryo the same as an infant? Isn't that deeply counter-intuitive at some level?
Not a philosophical argument, just a question. |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:31 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret No, also don't misrepresent abortion being something only done to embryos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245450) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:33 PM Author: smoky brethren Would you agree with me that an orangutan's life is worth more than a fly's life, and that a normal human's life is worth more than a braindead human's life?
Btw, I'm not on-board with late term abortions, I just think there is a short period at the beginning of the pregnancy where the fetus does not have rights. |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:33 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck moving too fast there little bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245464) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:34 PM Author: smoky brethren Just let him answer the question dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245469) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:33 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret I believe their worth is not measurable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245467) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:34 PM Author: smoky brethren Weird. I think any reasonable person would have to save the ape over the fly, given the choice.
And any reasonable person would have to save the functioning human over the braindead car accident victim on life support, given the choice. |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:37 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret That's a thought based on limited perception and understanding,
But if you have a point to make then make it |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:38 PM Author: smoky brethren I feel like you can accept the uncontroversial premises above without committing yourself to the pro-choice position, but you just don't want to be a good sport here and argue honestly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245521) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:40 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck eh, someone's just lying. Guess there's not much to the antiabortmo position, if they have to rely on lies. Huh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245545) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:45 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret Yes i am being evasive because i dont want to play 20 questions by someone thinking they are leading me intellectually to some conclusion and would rather just thwart that smugness. If you want to connect the dots in a single post starting from this questuin go ahead assuming I am reasonable and accept your reasonable proposals. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245605) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:40 PM Author: Charismatic maize community account digit ratio u revealed him as the pumo he is- dumb or evasive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245548) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:41 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret Please go forward and explain the conclusion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245552) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:42 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck (Guy whose reasoning cant withstand basic socratic inquiry) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245564) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:45 PM Author: Charismatic maize community account digit ratio there is no conclusion- u are incapable of weighing the things b/c of dogmas explain your mental blockage |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:47 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245621) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:47 PM Author: smoky brethren https://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/1995----03.htm
If you acknowledge that lives are ordinarily valued in proportion to mental activity and intelligence, then it's hard to see how something that is effectively braindead should take priority over another person's bodily autonomy.
Once a fetus develops past a certain point, its life may deserve priority over the mother's bodily autonomy, but up until that point, it seems like abortion should be permitted. |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:54 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret Then I would ask you, would killing the fly be justified if it would with near certainty become an organism with equal or greater mental ability, assuming that is the value of life which I don't accept per se. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245664) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:57 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck first, does the fly impose a risk or cost on another organism of significantly greater mental ability before it reaches your hypothetical state? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245696) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:00 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret Assume it posed a high frequency of minor, de minimus costs with the low probability of significant existential costs, which the host organism also imposed on a preceeding organism in order to reach the level of mental ability and righteous justification for being (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245713) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:03 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck "Assume it posed a high frequency of minor, de minimus costs with the low probability of significant existential costs,"
de minimus--I think this officially "begs the question"
"which the host organism also imposed on a preceeding organism in order to reach the level of mental ability and righteous justification for being"
how is this part at all relevant?
But to answer your question, if the costs were "de minimus"--you know what that means, right? I have a whole roster of clients who would disagree that the costs are de minimus --but yes, if de minimus then fly should not be aborted. |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:05 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret Are you referring to costs with raising the child or the physical health risks and inconvenience to the mother while pregnant, I was assuming the second.
And dont discount the ethical implications of requiring nuturing from a provider in order to be in the postion to now say I don't think its right for me to provide |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:07 PM Author: smoky brethren The health risks, pain, and inconvenience of carrying the child to term. The other stuff is irrelevant to me.
If we could painlessly extract the embryo from the mother and grow it in an artificial womb, I would be pro-life with the exception of Down's syndrome babies and other dysgenics.
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736841&mc=1&forum_id=2 |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:09 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck this is my response as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245769) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:09 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret Then we have an irreconcilable difference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245771) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:15 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck You undervalue costs to mother, which is what I've said all along antiabortmos do. And your dogma prevents you from seeing the contradiction in your own position. The only way to balance out the equation is to discount moms value as a person. |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:21 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret My position is simple. Anything short of death or greivous bodily injury posed by the pregnancy does not ethically justify terminating it, which I equate with terminating a human life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245852) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:22 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck simple well its simple all right. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245864) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:25 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret The truth always is my man (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245898) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:15 PM Author: Vermilion dog poop Why exactly should we discount future mental activity and intelligence in weighing the value of an unborn life? After all, it's generally considered worse to kill a toddler than a middle-aged person, despite the middle-aged person being "smarter."
Calling an embryo "braindead" is also fucking baffling. The key word there is "dead;" a person who is braindead is never waking up. That's not the case with an ordinary unborn human. |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:16 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck Then call it neurologically low-level, if that's your beef. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245828) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 9:36 PM Author: smoky brethren The argument is that we should discount future mental activity of non-persons to some degree, not future mental activity in general. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34247183) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:35 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck So if I kill your orangutan I don't owe you jack shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245475) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:35 PM Author: smoky brethren tcq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245479) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:39 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret The value of the life is distinct from the property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245525) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:41 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck so do I owe you something or not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245551) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:42 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret If I owned an orangtun that I paid for you would owe me it's value is dollars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245558) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:43 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck What if you just had the orangutan for free. Someone gave it to you. and then I killed it. Same thing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245577) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:45 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245608) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:46 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck So if an orangutan was gifted to you and I went out and shot it I wouldn't owe you anything? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245617) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:49 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret No. I could in theory seek the fair market value of the orangutan of I had the intention if selling it, but me in my honest world view, no. Please proceed as if you expected me to say yes, and explain what you think I could ask for in this situation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245638) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:54 PM Author: smoky brethren What if the orangutan freely roamed onto your property, perhaps lured by bananas?
And then decided to chill for a bit and eventually become a member of your family? |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:56 PM Author: hyperactive chrome location regret Then I wouldnt ask for any value to compensate it being killed I would seek retribution through action of the person who killed it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245691) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:54 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck I think my point is made, little fella. |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:12 PM Author: Vermilion dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245789) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 11:20 AM Author: mewling milky hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34250281) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:29 PM Author: smoky brethren Who was it that said that abortion is the only effective anti-poverty program that the government has ever devised? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245432) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:30 PM Author: Charismatic maize community account digit ratio Xo Margaret Sanger? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245447) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:31 PM Author: smoky brethren link to the quote? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245453) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:38 PM Author: bearded slimy corner dingle berry she's basically responsible for most of the quotes on abortion as a tool to control populations of the poor and by poor she 100% meant brown and black people. she'd fit in just fine on xo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245520) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:37 PM Author: bearded slimy corner dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245506) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 11:16 AM Author: Appetizing cheese-eating toilet seat church Whoever they were, they were dead on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34250257) |
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Date: September 20th, 2017 11:18 AM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34250262) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:34 PM Author: hairless resort puppy we should be giving black women mandatory implanons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245472) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:36 PM Author: smoky brethren I would give the Hispanic ones hysterectomies first. They breed more, so they wind up being more dysgenic overall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245491) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:45 PM Author: Umber Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245603) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:08 PM Author: smoky brethren Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245762) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:16 PM Author: Charismatic maize community account digit ratio google.com (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245820) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:21 PM Author: Umber Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245858) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 9:40 PM Author: smoky brethren 180. Israel is so fucking far ahead of every other developed country on earth in terms of immigration and population replacement and xoxo autists only complain about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34247197) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 9:43 PM Author: hairless resort puppy those lasted 3 months. implanon is multiyear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34247204) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 9:46 PM Author: Umber Property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34247219) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 5:45 PM Author: mind-boggling bossy kitty cat cruise ship Anti abortion was tcr until western civilization was overrun with apes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245599) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:10 PM Author: smoky brethren Eh, you're assuming that intelligent people make use of it more than poor dysgenics and I do not think that is the case.
I'm pro-life with zero exceptions for rape or maternal health if both parents have > 110 IQs and the baby is normal. |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:06 PM Author: fluffy crimson mexican If libs would just give in the pro-life movement they could have the demographics to elect Obamas, Kamalas, and Cory's from now til the end of time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34245752) |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 6:21 PM Author: razzmatazz topaz nursing home cuck yep. but you know, we value human life.
FWIW, if babies could be regularly decanted and grown in jars, then I would be opposed to abortion in most cases. |
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Date: September 19th, 2017 9:46 PM Author: Violet rehab international law enforcement agency *buckswild (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3736801&forum_id=2#34247218) |