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Seeking general advice for my trip: Rome > Florence > Venice

leaving nov 5, honeymoon. there for 10 nights.
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/25/17
Renting a car?
Crawly Abnormal School Cafeteria
  10/25/17
no, just doing trains -- flying into rome and out of milan. ...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/25/17
I would do 5 nights in Rome, 3 in Florence, 2 in Venice. ...
disgusting crystalline lay
  10/25/17
yeah, i'm not planning to spend any real time in milan. we a...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/25/17
I'd go 5/2 Rome v Venice because I think there is so much mo...
disgusting crystalline lay
  10/25/17
hmm, i'll think about that.
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/25/17
Kind of depends what time you arrive and leave on the travel...
disgusting crystalline lay
  10/25/17
yeah. i think that will be the deciding factor. we've alre...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/25/17
I wouldn't. He's probably going to spend 95% plus of his ti...
disgusting crystalline lay
  10/25/17
I wouldn't rent a car there again either the tolls are pure ...
Crawly Abnormal School Cafeteria
  10/25/17
True especially after coming from Germany where its free or ...
disgusting crystalline lay
  10/25/17
yeah, the highway tolls blew my mind last time i was over th...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/25/17
You haven't driven till you've been on a good German autobah...
disgusting crystalline lay
  10/25/17
found that setting google maps to avoid tolls worked well. m...
Amber fanboi
  10/26/17
What we used to do was set our lunchtime or end of day desti...
disgusting crystalline lay
  10/26/17
...
Amber fanboi
  10/26/17
I found italy really boring and the people were awful. Every...
Crawly Abnormal School Cafeteria
  10/25/17
The main tourist sights are stupidly overcrowded during summ...
disgusting crystalline lay
  10/25/17
Many people seem to manage just fine.
Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap
  10/26/17
the only touristy spot i've been to in italy was pisa, and i...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/25/17
where did you go in italy?
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/26/17
I loved Italians.
Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap
  10/26/17
Rome is crowded because it's full of cool shit. I assume you...
Fiercely-loyal twinkling uncleanness international law enforcement agency
  10/26/17
yeah, in rome will focus on mother church and old roman shit...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/26/17
St. Peters is not the only church worth visiting in Rome. Ma...
Fiercely-loyal twinkling uncleanness international law enforcement agency
  10/26/17
...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/26/17
...
at-the-ready bawdyhouse laser beams
  10/26/17
consider day in Siena on the way to Florence.
Amber fanboi
  10/26/17
Wish I had done this.
Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap
  10/26/17
TCR
at-the-ready bawdyhouse laser beams
  10/26/17
worth a stop on the train on the way to florence? or would ...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/26/17
it's an hour and a half train ride from Florence. Can just m...
Amber fanboi
  10/26/17
Learn basic Italian before you go. It's not hard and Italian...
Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap
  10/26/17
i took a half assed semester during college and did spanish ...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/26/17
This reminds me of a funny story about my husband. When we ...
disgusting crystalline lay
  10/26/17
man you are annoying
Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap
  10/26/17
yeah, but his little amount retained is usually good enough ...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/26/17
Wow what a funny story
orange mewling plaza trump supporter
  10/26/17
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mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  10/26/17
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odious alcoholic stead newt
  05/31/18
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emerald indecent field
  05/31/18
In retrospect, I was a little mean to 29 and wish that I had...
Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap
  05/31/18
...
Brindle toilet seat den
  05/31/18
Nice. Sounds like you'll be fine.
Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap
  10/26/17
Regardless if you’re an artmo or not, see the Galleria Borgh...
at-the-ready bawdyhouse laser beams
  10/26/17
What are some (if any) cr tours in Venice? Spending 2 days i...
grizzly bisexual people who are hurt affirmative action
  06/22/18
"tours" are u oriental?
bateful drunken theater stage hairy legs
  06/22/18
2 days is probably too much in venice just do 1 day, just...
glittery zombie-like base
  06/22/18
That was originally the plan, but circumstances now call for...
grizzly bisexual people who are hurt affirmative action
  06/22/18
honestly, just get away from the main drag (train station to...
jade sick juggernaut
  06/22/18
Thank you.
grizzly bisexual people who are hurt affirmative action
  06/22/18
this is good advice. venice is much more bearable when you ...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  06/22/18
the vaporetto is the way to go, gondola rides are a huge fuc...
mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth
  06/22/18
Tyvm
grizzly bisexual people who are hurt affirmative action
  06/22/18


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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:07 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

leaving nov 5, honeymoon. there for 10 nights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523621)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:26 AM
Author: Crawly Abnormal School Cafeteria

Renting a car?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523653)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:27 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

no, just doing trains -- flying into rome and out of milan. would maybe rent a car for a side trip but doubt we have the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523656)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:30 AM
Author: disgusting crystalline lay

I would do 5 nights in Rome, 3 in Florence, 2 in Venice.

Milan is quite an interesting city in its own right but not nearly at the same level as the other two and since the international airport is way out of the city you don't need to go into the city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523664)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:33 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

yeah, i'm not planning to spend any real time in milan. we actually did two nights there this past march, when we got rained out on the back end of a mont blanc ski trip.

right now i'm leaning towards 4/3/3.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523668)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:35 AM
Author: disgusting crystalline lay

I'd go 5/2 Rome v Venice because I think there is so much more to see in Rome (and several good daytrips) than in Venice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523673)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:41 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

hmm, i'll think about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523686)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:42 AM
Author: disgusting crystalline lay

Kind of depends what time you arrive and leave on the travelling days too. Two nights could be anything from only one full day to almost three.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523691)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:44 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

yeah. i think that will be the deciding factor. we've already got rome booked, but everything else is still pretty much up in the air (best thing about traveling in november vs say september).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523694)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:29 AM
Author: disgusting crystalline lay

I wouldn't. He's probably going to spend 95% plus of his time in the three inner cities and the last thing you want or need is a car in an Italian city. Just go by train.

I wouldn't rent a car unless you were doing a driving holiday across the Italian countryside visiting lots of small towns and historical/scenic sites. Even then you need to be a reasonably confident driver able to cope with a stick shift and maniacal Italian drivers on narrow roads.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523663)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:35 AM
Author: Crawly Abnormal School Cafeteria

I wouldn't rent a car there again either the tolls are pure rape

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523672)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:36 AM
Author: disgusting crystalline lay

True especially after coming from Germany where its free or the countries where you can just buy one autobahn pass for unlimited driving during your stay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523674)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:40 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

yeah, the highway tolls blew my mind last time i was over there. pretty great roads though. and <3 autogrill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523683)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:41 AM
Author: disgusting crystalline lay

You haven't driven till you've been on a good German autobahn on a quiet Sunday.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523687)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: Amber fanboi

found that setting google maps to avoid tolls worked well. more scenic drives and no tolls. also automatically avoids the downtown no car areas in towns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530429)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:31 AM
Author: disgusting crystalline lay

What we used to do was set our lunchtime or end of day destination in the GPS and then just drive in that general direction taking whatever detours seemed interesting.

That way the GPS is always calculating the best legal route from where you are to your destination which is really helpful in Italian towns which are usually a maze of narrow, one-way and blocked off streets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530473)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:33 AM
Author: Amber fanboi



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:37 AM
Author: Crawly Abnormal School Cafeteria

I found italy really boring and the people were awful. Everything is commoditized and sterile. Just way too much tourism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523677)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:40 AM
Author: disgusting crystalline lay

The main tourist sights are stupidly overcrowded during summer but by now they won't be so bad. And how can you go through life never having seen Rome?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523682)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:25 AM
Author: Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap

Many people seem to manage just fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530423)



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Date: October 25th, 2017 4:42 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

the only touristy spot i've been to in italy was pisa, and i had a pretty good time for the four hours i was there.

(been to la spezia, cagliari, and salerno a bunch of times each. and milan once this year for a couple days.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34523690)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:22 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

where did you go in italy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530395)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap

I loved Italians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530427)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:26 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal twinkling uncleanness international law enforcement agency

Rome is crowded because it's full of cool shit. I assume you have at least some level of interest in Roman history and medieval and Renaissance art, right? Otherwise LOL this may be a miserable vacay for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530431)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:29 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

yeah, in rome will focus on mother church and old roman shit and drinking.

florence the usual art stuff, venice the usual

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530453)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:30 AM
Author: Fiercely-loyal twinkling uncleanness international law enforcement agency

St. Peters is not the only church worth visiting in Rome. Make sure to check out St. John Lateran and Maria Maggiore. They're both old as shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530464)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:35 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:59 AM
Author: at-the-ready bawdyhouse laser beams



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:29 AM
Author: Amber fanboi

consider day in Siena on the way to Florence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530451)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:32 AM
Author: Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap

Wish I had done this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530488)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:55 AM
Author: at-the-ready bawdyhouse laser beams

TCR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530656)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 1:24 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

worth a stop on the train on the way to florence? or would i have to spend the night?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530841)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 7:57 AM
Author: Amber fanboi

it's an hour and a half train ride from Florence. Can just make a day trip out of it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34531866)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:33 AM
Author: Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap

Learn basic Italian before you go. It's not hard and Italians are poor English speakers. It saved my ass a couple of times there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530505)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:38 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

i took a half assed semester during college and did spanish in high school, so we usually get by in both italy and spain.

GF is near fluent in french though which is great when we're there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530537)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:41 AM
Author: disgusting crystalline lay

This reminds me of a funny story about my husband. When we go to Eastern Europe I usually do all the translating because I speak Slovenian fairly well (which means I can get the gist of other Slavic languages) and I did 6 years of German in school which is a very common second language there.

So when we go to France he's all "now I can translate because I did French in HS" and I ask "how many years?" and he says "two" and I respond "I did five years of French". LOL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530559)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:51 AM
Author: Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap

man you are annoying

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530617)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:53 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

yeah, but his little amount retained is usually good enough for the basics: pronunciation, sentence structure, basic nouns/verbs, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530634)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 2:59 AM
Author: orange mewling plaza trump supporter

Wow what a funny story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34531165)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 3:05 AM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34531191)



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Date: May 31st, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: odious alcoholic stead newt



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Date: May 31st, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: emerald indecent field



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Date: May 31st, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap

In retrospect, I was a little mean to 29 and wish that I had been even meaner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36160307)



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Date: May 31st, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Brindle toilet seat den



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:55 AM
Author: Swashbuckling business firm mad-dog skullcap

Nice. Sounds like you'll be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530657)



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Date: October 26th, 2017 12:57 AM
Author: at-the-ready bawdyhouse laser beams

Regardless if you’re an artmo or not, see the Galleria Borghese

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#34530676)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: grizzly bisexual people who are hurt affirmative action

What are some (if any) cr tours in Venice? Spending 2 days in august.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291900)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: bateful drunken theater stage hairy legs

"tours" are u oriental?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291906)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: glittery zombie-like base

2 days is probably too much in venice

just do 1 day, just do a gondola ride so your gf can take photos, just do some walking around and just do never go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291907)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:13 PM
Author: grizzly bisexual people who are hurt affirmative action

That was originally the plan, but circumstances now call for 2. What about a boat ride to Burano and other little islands?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291928)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: jade sick juggernaut

honestly, just get away from the main drag (train station to rialto to Doge Palace) and wander to the outskirts of Venice. it's really peaceful and the architecture is lovely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291944)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: grizzly bisexual people who are hurt affirmative action

Thank you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36291999)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

this is good advice. venice is much more bearable when you wander away from all the super touristy areas.

buy a vaporetto pass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36292396)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: mauve organic girlfriend ticket booth

the vaporetto is the way to go, gondola rides are a huge fucking scam. only people i saw on them on my trip were asian tourists with selfie sticks and gaudy designer clothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36292387)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 5:52 PM
Author: grizzly bisexual people who are hurt affirmative action

Tyvm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3774025&forum_id=2#36292982)