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why do people consider catholicism strange and exotic?
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Date: December 18th, 2017 12:36 PM Author: Provocative Incel Chapel i was raised vaguely catholic by parents who were not at all serious about religion (we went to church very infrequently, sometimes not for years at a time). i did go to catholic school briefly, and i was 'confirmed.' but it was all pretty ho hum. there was no kind of crazy occult aspect to any of it. we just went to a boring church service, sang a couple hymns, listened to a bland and inoffensive sermon by an old man, went home. i don't get why people think this is a crazy religion. yeah, there are crazy people who take the religion far afield, but there are crazy Episcopalian sects too. |
Date: December 18th, 2017 12:50 PM Author: stimulating digit ratio I'm not aware of anybody that thinks this about papists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949023) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 12:52 PM Author: swashbuckling cruel-hearted stage gunner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949037) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 12:54 PM Author: Cobalt Titillating Senate Trump Supporter what you see in the here and now is not representative of catholicism historically. follow the TLM communities and you get a very different picture and you get to see why catholics were and are considered strange and exotic. the deeper you go, the more of a mystical practice is becomes. at the superficial level, it's actually very boring. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949051) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 12:57 PM Author: Diverse piazza dysfunction I don't think that many ppl do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949058) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:01 PM Author: Olive Indian Lodge Lettuce Popular Catholicism has some interesting elements that are definitely not akin to WASP episcopalian beliefs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garabandal_apparitions |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:02 PM Author: magenta roommate french chef wow interesting! *farts* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949087) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:04 PM Author: Milky multi-billionaire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949104) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:07 PM Author: Cobalt Titillating Senate Trump Supporter if people want to get some examples. look into "our lady of fatima" and "padre pio" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949116) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:11 PM Author: Olive Indian Lodge Lettuce I like Garabandal because I think that is the one where the visionaries were said to have levitated and walked on their hands and stuff. OLF is pretty cool too with the sun spinning and the prophecies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949154) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:25 PM Author: Cobalt Titillating Senate Trump Supporter add medjugorie (which i think and most traditionalists is a fraud). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949258) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 5:50 PM Author: Comical Big-titted Kitty Cat Athletic Conference Fatima literalist truthers are really hard to imagine before you meet one, but they're out there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34951522) |
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Date: January 12th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: Metal crusty business firm round eye ROME IS STILL HIDING THE THIRD SECRET (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#35141666) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:09 PM Author: crimson karate haunted graveyard Let me break it down for you:
- Body and blood of Christ. For Catholics, the bread and wine isn't symbolic, you're supposed to believe the priest is actually converting that each time they do the eucharist.
- Celibacy. Other religions, including Eastern Rite Catholics, think that is messed up and leads to rapey priests (it does).
- The obnoxious level of robes and adornments. Catholics are over the fucking top when it comes to all the attire and gilding. Other religions are far more chill in that regard.
- The rite of confession is seen as creepy.
- Catholics seem a bit obsessed with any of the sexual sins, particularly masturbation and birth control. The masturbation one in particular gets brought up fairly early (~middle school) and I think non-Catholics (rightly) see that as both entirely impractical as well as just plain screwed up to guilt kids over.
- Oh, the role of Mary and virgin birth; I think Catholics ratchet this one up a lot more than Protestants.
- Papal infallibility.
- A bit esoteric, but the notion of performing exorcisms and demonic possession; Catholics downplay that stuff but it's "in there" within the church and still believed/practiced.
I could go on, but those are the quick ones I know stand out as big Catholic red flags. |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:16 PM Author: Provocative Incel Chapel so basically, there is no good reason. this list is a big nothing. if they were sacrificing roosters or something, ok. |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:20 PM Author: crimson karate haunted graveyard Sure, if you consider grown men who can't jack off, wearing lacy dresses, listening to 12 year olds confess jacking off to the victorias secret catalog, and turning wine into blood a big nothing... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949225) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:24 PM Author: Cobalt Titillating Senate Trump Supporter i love of all this. this is why being catholic is 180. but with that said...people totally misunderstand papal infallibility.
it literally does not mean what people think it does. it's been exercised, if i remember correctly, seven times in nearly 2000 years. people tend to not understand how the sensus populum/sensus fidelium/papal infallibility work together.
but that's a small note. being catholic is 180 million. |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:33 PM Author: crimson karate haunted graveyard If I believed in Christianity, and I took out the Orthodox religions (russian, greek, armenian) from the conversation, I'd say Catholics overall are the most "legit" form of Christianity. Most of the Protestant religions are either backwards in their interpretation of the old testament (e.g. Southern Baptists) or quick to sell out to politically correct trends. Religion should be about beliefs which if they move at all, move extremely slowly. The rate at which many Protestant religions bend over and take it in the ass from women and gays is embarrassing. It's fine to trend in that direction over time, but a lot of them RUSH to adopt moral ambiguity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949330) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:58 PM Author: frisky locus Protestantism is rightfully dying. Lol at those faggots. It's like they change policy based on a Twitter polls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34950698) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:40 PM Author: fragrant submissive internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949388) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:38 PM Author: Hairraiser heaven "The obnoxious level of robes and adornments. Catholics are over the fucking top when it comes to all the attire and gilding. Other religions are far more chill in that regard."
(guy who has never been in post-V2 parish)
Even in Rome herself, you'll see some cheap new altar with a childish felt cloth on it right in the middle of some 170 baroque excrescence, with a projector screen nearby so you can put up transparencies of shitty folk music. |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:39 PM Author: Cobalt Titillating Senate Trump Supporter brutal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949379) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:52 PM Author: Hairraiser heaven it's brutal caring, man :(
(I know you know this) |
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Date: January 12th, 2018 3:16 PM Author: Poppy awkward pozpig party of the first part You missed the biggest one: belief in saints is polytheism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#35141678) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:10 PM Author: Hairraiser heaven some people think Catholicism is exotic because many ARE COUNTRY Protestants have basically folk-knowledge of Catholicism: they pray to saints and Mary, have weird rituals, go to confession, have monastics, etc.
of course if they went to a typical American Catholic parish and saw how relentlessly gay and bland everything is now, they'd just think it was excessively organized Presbyterianism. |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:41 PM Author: fragrant submissive internal respiration I do wonder a bit where these super bland lame Catholic parishes are because every one that I have regularly attended has been INTENSE and ORTHODOX, even if many of the parishioners are NOT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949399) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:44 PM Author: Hairraiser heaven dude it's everywhere. while I've been to 180 Latin Mass trad parishes, the norm is just depressing. I will go to Catholic parishes when traveling if I can't get to an Orthodox parish just because I feel like I should at least sit in church on Sunday mornings, and I almost always regret it. I even went to a ByzCath parish once where the iconostasis was reduced to nothing and there was a lisping Irish priest surrounded by altar girls. and don't get me started about EMHCs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949435) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:46 PM Author: Cobalt Titillating Senate Trump Supporter that's painful to hear. i pretty much only go TLM now because of scandal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949451) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:45 PM Author: Cobalt Titillating Senate Trump Supporter there is a parish by me that has a late "last chance mass" at 7pm on sunday where i heard some INSANITY during the homilies and the prayers of the faithful
the straw that broke the camel's back---the week's readings were the 10 virgins. pastor said you want to be the foolish virgins who had nothing because--obviously--they gave everything away like you were supposed to. i sat there and looked at as many faces as i could. no one noticed.
i told my regular pastor at my TLM and he said "if you are in a predicament like that. just pray for the man and mail his bishop. but i would advise you to never go there again as it is a risk of scandal". |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:53 PM Author: Hairraiser heaven yes, that is good advice. I never step into the same disaster twice, either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949516) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:48 PM Author: Hairraiser heaven if I had encountered 180 trad Catholicism first, I'd probably be Catholic and endure the fact that the vast majority of the church isn't like that, and in fact, wants to destroy it. but as it was, every time I would go to a Catholic mass there was a shocking lack of decorum that struck me as almost blasphemous. it's one thing when Methodists go all goofy— they don't believe in the Real Presence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949471) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:55 PM Author: fragrant submissive internal respiration It's interesting, because I grew up with a parish that had all the things you're complaining about (and still does). But the priests we had were always 180 and were always lurching the parish to greater levels of devotion and old-fashionedness, so it didn't bother me as much.
Now I'm probably becoming a full TLMmo because my nearest parish offers it as the 9:30 mass on Sundays so I really have no excuse not to go. |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:03 PM Author: Hairraiser heaven yeah I think the situation is totally different if you're born to it anyhow. I don't think the current situation really gives anyone great answers to religious dilemmas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949589) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:04 PM Author: fragrant submissive internal respiration What were you born into, if I might ask? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949594) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:08 PM Author: Hairraiser heaven nothing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949628) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:21 PM Author: fragrant submissive internal respiration Pictorial monikers and adult conversion from secularism to Eastern Orthodoxy - The XO Story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949748) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 3:02 PM Author: Hairraiser heaven I was a teenager, but still cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34950055) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:06 PM Author: Cobalt Titillating Senate Trump Supporter bully...it's the mass of the ages.
mine is full of old irish who weathered the storm and supported the church with their own money. when the diocese took their church from them, they bought a house and renovated it. they took their school from them. they built a classical school house. now it's them and their children and grandchildren and this hodgepodge of young families who will support it. there is this great video that kinda nails it down. this is our inheritance and it was stolen from us. but its here and it's waiting for you. this is it. this belongs to us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eHP7xIAVHM |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 1:46 PM Author: aggressive dilemma roast beef Jews lack self-awareness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949448) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:00 PM Author: Self-absorbed aphrodisiac cuckold catholicism is objectively pretty fucking weird, dude.
i was raised catholic. catholics especially have some really strange hangups about sex. especially the women... |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:02 PM Author: Milky multi-billionaire sex is evil you stupid fuckin idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949581) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:07 PM Author: Floppy Umber Office The XO Stylebook prefers "sex=poison." HTH. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949620) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:03 PM Author: fragrant submissive internal respiration CANON X.-If any one saith, that the marriage state is to be placed above the state of virginity, or of celibacy, and that it is not better and more blessed to remain in virginity, or in celibacy, than to be united in matrimony; let him be anathema. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949590) |
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Date: January 12th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: Lime disturbing coffee pot Such anathema! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#35141725) |
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Date: December 18th, 2017 2:00 PM Author: crimson karate haunted graveyard lol @ TTTLM. Jesus spoke Aramaic and wasn't Italian or fucking Irish (the US-centric view of Christianity), you should be going to a proper Maronite church to get the real deal from a Priest who isn't sexually repressed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3832988&forum_id=2#34949575) |