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Apparently Engineer/STEM shortage is a myth created to lower wages
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:35 PM Author: domesticated lay any truth to this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791591) |
Date: April 8th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle twinkling temple blood rage Wouldn't a shortage increase wages? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791596) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: Navy Galvanic Stage it would, but telling everyone there's a shortage would lower wages (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791625) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle twinkling temple blood rage Why?
Edit: -I see, the thread is a reference to h1b programs. |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: beady-eyed iridescent theatre It's the one path to decent money without incurring massive debt, of course they want to (((shut it down))) by importing as many Pradeeps as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791599) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: insanely creepy gaming laptop coffee pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791691) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:37 PM Author: Crusty point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791901) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:39 PM Author: arousing violent toaster resort i hate all those artificially created shortages used to decrease prices (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791600) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: painfully honest hot stead The perception of the shortage is what's being used as an impetus to decrease prices there, hotshot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791637) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: insanely creepy gaming laptop coffee pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791692) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: Dark factory reset button 100% true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791614) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:48 PM Author: domesticated lay are you a STEM major? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791639) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: copper french immigrant I believe this was before the shortage was President. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791623) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:49 PM Author: painfully honest hot stead told yall. it's glorified machinist work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791645) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:49 PM Author: crystalline dashing psychic brunch Not sure, I still get constant recruiter calls and emails asking me to jump ship for a $20k raise and I'm already vastly overpaid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791647) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:50 PM Author: domesticated lay major? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791654) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: crystalline dashing psychic brunch Mechanical but work in an unrelated industry due to some simulation work I've done there. I basically only work 3 to 5 hours a week and spend the rest of the time traveling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791665) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: domesticated lay how would you rank civil/electrical/mech for jobs now and in the future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791673) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: crystalline dashing psychic brunch high end EE is going to be tops forever, although you'll see some wage depression at the low end of the market since they're easily replaced by chink/turdbots
Civil will be replaced by AI in 20 years or less, so hang a shingle if you have your stamp and start a small firm doing subcontracts to megafirms while you still can.
Mech should be the same to slightly better at all levels. |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: domesticated lay do two year engineering technologists get decent jobs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791743) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: crystalline dashing psychic brunch Probably much more secure than some engineers, since they're on the plant floor and actually understand the practical aspects of production and design. A good technician can make a bad design work, and a bad tech can fuck up a good design just as easily. Definitely not a bad field to get into for people who can't hack a 4 year school. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791899) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:52 PM Author: domesticated lay can they maek 70-80k with OT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791995) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: crystalline dashing psychic brunch Starting. Not even kidding, lots of them are pulling down more than engineers in the office because of OT and travel per diems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792195) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 4:02 PM Author: domesticated lay Why did i take Econ? Why do avg people go into Law? For fuck sakes HS counselors are failing people in life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792770) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 4:43 PM Author: contagious sick affirmative action stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35793066) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 4:54 PM Author: crystalline dashing psychic brunch Nothing says you are stuck in econ now. Drop in, relive your glory years and pwn some young cunnus while setting yourself up for a career instead of just a job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35793157) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 9:03 PM Author: domesticated lay did you stop at Mech undergrad? Or, do you have masters, jd, etc? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35794899) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 9:05 PM Author: crystalline dashing psychic brunch UG, this site saved me from going to Lawl School. I dropped out of engineering freshman year and went polisci for 2 years then saw the light and now bank a chill $90k in a tertiary market with a company car and sick bennys. Will probably do a night school MBA in the next 2-3 years just because company will pay for it, then cop a promotion to management. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35794910) |
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Date: April 16th, 2018 9:13 PM Author: domesticated lay how many more years did it take to do mech degree after 1 year eng dropout to 2 years polisci? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35855193) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 12:29 AM Author: domesticated lay what 2 year engineering technology degree would you recommend to a bro? can you rank them please? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35929351) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:40 PM Author: motley athletic conference Lots of lower-level design work is going to go away. CIvil is fucked the hardest long term. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791923) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: domesticated lay did not know this. good info here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791997) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: 180 garnet crackhouse What kind of simulation? You went mech —> CS basically? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791898) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: crystalline dashing psychic brunch Fluid mechanics with non-newtonian fluids. I went into basically chem eng, but with little to no knowledge of actual chemistry. I just troubleshoot on site but have enough knowledge that I can program simulations of what's happening and why something is fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791906) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: 180 garnet crackhouse Sounds hard. I only know of "Oobleck".... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792249) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 6:02 PM Author: Diverse Skinny Woman Kitchen Future for patent law? should I go back to engineering? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35793651) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 9:02 PM Author: crystalline dashing psychic brunch No idea, I have never dealt with IP lawyers yet. My friend got one of his designs patented and his F500 company only gave him a $500 bonus ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35794893) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: painfully honest hot stead Recruiters just dump you in the mosh pit with all of the other resumes they're harvesting. People who do actually get back in touch with these idiot recruiters are being asked how many decades of experience they have with Lisp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791660) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: Multi-colored Bright Azn Space Yes
https://spectrum.ieee.org/at-work/education/the-stem-crisis-is-a-myth |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:02 PM Author: domesticated lay damn. this is from 2013 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791718) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:05 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle twinkling temple blood rage Great paragraph:
The nature of STEM work has also changed dramatically in the past several decades. In engineering, for instance, your job is no longer linked to a company but to a funded project. Long-term employment with a single company has been replaced by a series of de facto temporary positions that can quickly end when a project ends or the market shifts. To be sure, engineers in the 1950s were sometimes laid off during recessions, but they expected to be hired back when the economy picked up. That rarely happens today. And unlike in decades past, employers seldom offer generous education and training benefits to engineers to keep them current, so out-of-work engineers find they quickly become technologically obsolete. |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 1:15 PM Author: Drunken fanboi Remember Sandra Bland of BLM fame? Both her (working a temporary glorified RA job at her college) and the cop who pulled her over had STEM degrees. Not flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35791772) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: 180 garnet crackhouse Well, both were "agriculture" majors, so... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792252) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: self-absorbed forum hominid so they had STEAM degrees, not STEM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792288) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: 180 garnet crackhouse STEAM seems like such flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792405) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 3:06 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle twinkling temple blood rage They're great on TEAMS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792428) |
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Date: April 8th, 2018 3:32 PM Author: Jet Property a STEAM degree? Choo! Choo! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3942741&forum_id=2#35792557) |