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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
comical balding dragon
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
Bearded Lascivious Azn Locale
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Deranged yapping boltzmann indian lodge
  06/15/18
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tan trailer park marketing idea
  06/15/18
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tan trailer park marketing idea
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
hairraiser hunting ground
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
Mahogany Duck-like Field
  10/06/21
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comical balding dragon
  02/12/22
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Echoes of Wisdom
  08/12/25
they have no debt as I understand it
slippery concupiscible resort
  06/15/18
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tan trailer park marketing idea
  06/15/18
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Impressive Amber Sex Offender
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
slippery concupiscible resort
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
Aqua useless brakes
  06/15/18
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Disrespectful white temple
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
tan trailer park marketing idea
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
titillating digit ratio hairy legs
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
Pale newt pozpig
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
Domesticated state community account
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
hairraiser hunting ground
  06/15/18
sounds 180
slippery concupiscible resort
  06/15/18
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Disrespectful white temple
  06/15/18
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Impressive Amber Sex Offender
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
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Impressive Amber Sex Offender
  06/15/18
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Domesticated state community account
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Impressive Amber Sex Offender
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Jet-lagged mischievous dopamine crackhouse
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
comical balding dragon
  10/06/21
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comical balding dragon
  01/18/25
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I hate being a lawyer and want to die
  08/12/25
omg 260k where do they get off
carmine wrinkle forum
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
comical balding dragon
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Idiotic queen of the night
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
comical balding dragon
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Idiotic queen of the night
  06/15/18
Explain
comical balding dragon
  06/15/18
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comical balding dragon
  06/16/18
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comical balding dragon
  09/04/18
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Jet-lagged mischievous dopamine crackhouse
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
nighttime cerebral corner
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
supple frisky sneaky criminal
  06/15/18
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comical balding dragon
  02/12/21
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Impressive Amber Sex Offender
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comical balding dragon
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
Gaped flesh parlor
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
ruby shaky clown
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
comical balding dragon
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
violent citrine rigor
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
comical balding dragon
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
violent citrine rigor
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
comical balding dragon
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Vigorous Giraffe
  02/12/21
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bearded famous landscape painting wagecucks
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
Gaped flesh parlor
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Vigorous Giraffe
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
Trip chest-beating den fat ankles
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Vigorous Giraffe
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
Trip chest-beating den fat ankles
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
ruby shaky clown
  02/12/21
lol no
histrionic home cuck
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
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comical balding dragon
  06/29/21
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comical balding dragon
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  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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  10/06/21
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comical balding dragon
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: comical balding dragon

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Bearded Lascivious Azn Locale

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Deranged yapping boltzmann indian lodge

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: tan trailer park marketing idea



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: tan trailer park marketing idea



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: hairraiser hunting ground

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: Mahogany Duck-like Field

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: comical balding dragon



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:15 PM
Author: Echoes of Wisdom ((zurich is stained))



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: slippery concupiscible resort

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: tan trailer park marketing idea



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Impressive Amber Sex Offender



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: slippery concupiscible resort

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Aqua useless brakes

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Disrespectful white temple



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: tan trailer park marketing idea

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: titillating digit ratio hairy legs

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: Pale newt pozpig

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Domesticated state community account

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: hairraiser hunting ground

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: slippery concupiscible resort

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Disrespectful white temple



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Impressive Amber Sex Offender



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: racy volcanic crater ceo

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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: tan trailer park marketing idea



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Deranged yapping boltzmann indian lodge



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Impressive Amber Sex Offender



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Impressive Amber Sex Offender

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: Domesticated state community account



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Jet-lagged mischievous dopamine crackhouse



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Impressive Amber Sex Offender



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Jet-lagged mischievous dopamine crackhouse



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: comical balding dragon

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231447)



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Date: January 18th, 2025 10:31 PM
Author: comical balding dragon



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Date: August 12th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: I hate being a lawyer and want to die



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: carmine wrinkle forum

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: comical balding dragon

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Idiotic queen of the night

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: comical balding dragon

Eat my dick nigger lover

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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Idiotic queen of the night

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: comical balding dragon

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: comical balding dragon



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: comical balding dragon



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Jet-lagged mischievous dopamine crackhouse



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: nighttime cerebral corner

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: supple frisky sneaky criminal

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: comical balding dragon



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: bearded famous landscape painting wagecucks



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Impressive Amber Sex Offender



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: comical balding dragon



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: Gaped flesh parlor

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: ruby shaky clown

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: comical balding dragon

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: violent citrine rigor

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: comical balding dragon

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: violent citrine rigor

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: comical balding dragon

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Vigorous Giraffe

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: bearded famous landscape painting wagecucks



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: Gaped flesh parlor

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Vigorous Giraffe

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: Trip chest-beating den fat ankles

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Vigorous Giraffe

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: Trip chest-beating den fat ankles

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: ruby shaky clown

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: histrionic home cuck

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: beady-eyed parlour

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: comical balding dragon



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: comical balding dragon



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Primrose soul-stirring double fault roast beef

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: comical balding dragon



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