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GOOD NEWS: IMMIGRATION CRACKDOWN & TAX CUT SPUR WAGE GROWTH!!!
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:11 AM Author: Unhinged Chapel Lol jk! During our booming economy the American worker actually saw his wages DECREASE over the past year:
"From June 2017 to June 2018, real average hourly earnings decreased 0.2 percent, seasonally adjusted."
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/realer.nr0.htm
(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457743) |
Date: July 19th, 2018 6:20 AM Author: hyperventilating senate Thats unfortunate but how would increasing illegal immigration help increase wages. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457744) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:28 AM Author: Unhinged Chapel It probably doesn't, but immigration is not what is causing the vanishing middle class. There's some evidence that it can cause modest wage growth (immigration works on both demand and supply side people often forget) but it's largely a wash.
The point is that we should be dedicating political capital to ideas that may actually help solve the problem instead of this giant distraction. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457746) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:31 AM Author: beta pungent school cafeteria cuckold lmao, myopic shitlib. immigration has as much to do with culture and safety as it does with economics
it is in no way a "distraction" (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457747) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:35 AM Author: Unhinged Chapel True there's the typical racist reasons, which you're right definitely is what really drives anti immigration, but we've seen that Trump and his alt right followers love to conflate it with the general economic plight of American workers (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457749) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:43 AM Author: beta pungent school cafeteria cuckold safety and culture are racist now, shitlib? (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457752) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:49 AM Author: Unhinged Chapel "Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous." The idea that there's some distinct American culture not inclusive of latin stuff is absurd. And the idea that immigrants have some sort of special higher propensity for crime is equally absurd. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457754) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:54 AM Author: light cracking locale skinny woman brown people are violent. Look at brown people countries -- ghettos and poverty. Third world people are what make a country third world. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457757) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: excitant piazza halford Don't be disingenuous. The key is they're POOR AS DIRT illegals, of course they're going to drag culture and safety down. Look at public schools in California ffs. Would be the same if millions of white chavs poured in (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458605) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:22 AM Author: beta pungent school cafeteria cuckold Lmao (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458623) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:26 AM Author: Aquamarine church building This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458645) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: chocolate library deer antler How are people still taking him seriously (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458677) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: Diverse mahogany national security agency gay wizard Because he's right.
Sorry you are a racist tard (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458957) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: chocolate library deer antler Compelling argument (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36459010) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: Bat shit crazy generalized bond (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458672) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: Diverse mahogany national security agency gay wizard Bigoted, actually. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458962) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: chocolate library deer antler “the idea that immigrants have some sort of special higher propensity for crime is equally absurd.”
Obviously depends on where they’re from, how skilled they are and what population you’re comparing them to (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458674) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:34 AM Author: Abnormal Parlor Nowag (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458690) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: Multi-colored travel guidebook This is the most infuriating post I’ve ever read on here. Scary that people think like this. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458683) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: Tripping stage trump supporter Don't ever go on reddit. Libs do this constantly. Everything is a dog whistle; they can't ever take a person's words as they were intended if that person doesn't fit their ideology. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458735) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Diverse mahogany national security agency gay wizard Translation:
He's right, but I still want to hide behind the facade of caring about "culture" and "safety" so that my friends won't know that I'm a racist piece of shit. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458967) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:29 PM Author: Tripping stage trump supporter That would be the retarded shitlib translation, yes. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36461530) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: Crimson background story lol gtfo (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458686) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:40 AM Author: low-t police squad ratface Weak flame (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458724) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Tripping stage trump supporter I love how libs just choose their own definition of words when trying to shoehorn statements into their deranged worldview. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458728) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:09 PM Author: citrine rigpig (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458912) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: Diverse mahogany national security agency gay wizard "Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
"Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
"Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
"Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
"Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
"Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
GOT DAMN, this is cr (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458953) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:38 AM Author: dashing double fault university Trump hasnt stopped illegal immigration, just reduced it (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457750) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: Alcoholic jet-lagged institution Promises made
Promises kept (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458607) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:25 AM Author: Abnormal Parlor Nowag (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458640) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: Sable Sinister Becky Thats because everyone is working 2 jobs (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458659) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:39 AM Author: Tripping stage trump supporter Is it maybe because more people are getting jobs instead of being unemployed, thus dragging down the average by adding more below-average workers (who may be replacing some undocumented workers who were earning even less, but not being counted so not dragging down the average?)
Or are employers actually decreasing wages? That seems kind of unlikely due to increased competition for labor, but I've only spent about two minutes looking at numbers. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458718) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: Unhinged Chapel This is of nonsupervisory positions. Supervisory positions have had 0.2 percent increase. But basically everyone is stagnant. The entire corporate tax cut went to shareholders not labor. Terrible terrible policy (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458898) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:12 PM Author: Tripping stage trump supporter It being nonsupervisory positions would seem to support my poast, no?
If poors didn't have jobs before and are now reentering the labor force in low paying jobs (some of which may have previously been held by undocumented people etc), they'd bring down the average. People in supervisory positions making more money also supports the idea that employees have more leverage. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458929) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Unhinged Chapel Why would they bring the avg down? In a good economy usually new employees make more than their counterparts because wages are sticky for existing employees.
But anyway supervisory of 0.2 is not a win. That's stagnant wages. There's really no room here to claim wages are actually getting a boom but the stats don't reflect it. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458971) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Tripping stage trump supporter I don't know about what you allege usually happens in a "good" economy to unskilled entry level workers, but I'm suggesting that the low tier workers finally getting jobs after more competent people have been working and improving their track record throughout the recession might indeed bring down the average, especially if some of the people formerly in those jobs are promoted to supervisory positions (many of which would also be low paying for supervisory positions as they're entry level supervisory positions.)
It looks to me like we're growing the pie, largely by hiring for more low wage jobs. That sounds better and less expensive and more productive than these people not having jobs. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36459107) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: charcoal wrinkle son of senegal the drain they have on public services is the real problem.
libs wanting completely open boarders along with govt funded healthcare, massive increases in education spending, increased welfare, free college, ubi, and all the other handouts is what's really insane. or they simply want to destroy america and replace it with a 3rd world welfare state paid for by middle class cucks with no other options. (https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458999) |