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GOOD NEWS: IMMIGRATION CRACKDOWN & TAX CUT SPUR WAGE GROWTH!!!
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:11 AM Author: Charcoal pistol Lol jk! During our booming economy the American worker actually saw his wages DECREASE over the past year:
"From June 2017 to June 2018, real average hourly earnings decreased 0.2 percent, seasonally adjusted."
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/realer.nr0.htm
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:20 AM Author: infuriating motley site alpha Thats unfortunate but how would increasing illegal immigration help increase wages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457744) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:28 AM Author: Charcoal pistol It probably doesn't, but immigration is not what is causing the vanishing middle class. There's some evidence that it can cause modest wage growth (immigration works on both demand and supply side people often forget) but it's largely a wash.
The point is that we should be dedicating political capital to ideas that may actually help solve the problem instead of this giant distraction. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:31 AM Author: metal unholy yarmulke area lmao, myopic shitlib. immigration has as much to do with culture and safety as it does with economics
it is in no way a "distraction" |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:35 AM Author: Charcoal pistol True there's the typical racist reasons, which you're right definitely is what really drives anti immigration, but we've seen that Trump and his alt right followers love to conflate it with the general economic plight of American workers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457749) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:43 AM Author: metal unholy yarmulke area safety and culture are racist now, shitlib? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457752) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:49 AM Author: Charcoal pistol "Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous." The idea that there's some distinct American culture not inclusive of latin stuff is absurd. And the idea that immigrants have some sort of special higher propensity for crime is equally absurd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457754) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:54 AM Author: irradiated senate marketing idea brown people are violent. Look at brown people countries -- ghettos and poverty. Third world people are what make a country third world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457757) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: very tactful forum Don't be disingenuous. The key is they're POOR AS DIRT illegals, of course they're going to drag culture and safety down. Look at public schools in California ffs. Would be the same if millions of white chavs poured in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458605) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:22 AM Author: metal unholy yarmulke area Lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458623) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:26 AM Author: Fear-inspiring liquid oxygen This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458645) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: aromatic market How are people still taking him seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458677) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: sticky razzle-dazzle french chef queen of the night Because he's right.
Sorry you are a racist tard |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: aromatic market Compelling argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36459010) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: grizzly soul-stirring nursing home pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458672) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: sticky razzle-dazzle french chef queen of the night Bigoted, actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458962) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: aromatic market “the idea that immigrants have some sort of special higher propensity for crime is equally absurd.”
Obviously depends on where they’re from, how skilled they are and what population you’re comparing them to |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:34 AM Author: Histrionic piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458690) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: drab vivacious temple This is the most infuriating post I’ve ever read on here. Scary that people think like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458683) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: Frozen mood pit Don't ever go on reddit. Libs do this constantly. Everything is a dog whistle; they can't ever take a person's words as they were intended if that person doesn't fit their ideology. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458735) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: sticky razzle-dazzle french chef queen of the night Translation:
He's right, but I still want to hide behind the facade of caring about "culture" and "safety" so that my friends won't know that I'm a racist piece of shit. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:29 PM Author: Frozen mood pit That would be the retarded shitlib translation, yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36461530) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: Tantric exciting newt lol gtfo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458686) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:40 AM Author: insanely creepy mahogany blood rage candlestick maker Weak flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458724) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Frozen mood pit I love how libs just choose their own definition of words when trying to shoehorn statements into their deranged worldview. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458728) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:09 PM Author: onyx flickering school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458912) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: sticky razzle-dazzle french chef queen of the night "Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
"Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
"Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
"Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
"Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
"Culture" is just shorthand for "I don't like brown people." "Safety" is shorthand for "brown people make me nervous."
GOT DAMN, this is cr |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:38 AM Author: Bistre Lascivious Internal Respiration Trump hasnt stopped illegal immigration, just reduced it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36457750) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: Purple codepig Promises made
Promises kept |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:25 AM Author: Histrionic piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458640) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: Racy indecent step-uncle's house boiling water Thats because everyone is working 2 jobs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458659) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:39 AM Author: Frozen mood pit Is it maybe because more people are getting jobs instead of being unemployed, thus dragging down the average by adding more below-average workers (who may be replacing some undocumented workers who were earning even less, but not being counted so not dragging down the average?)
Or are employers actually decreasing wages? That seems kind of unlikely due to increased competition for labor, but I've only spent about two minutes looking at numbers. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: Charcoal pistol This is of nonsupervisory positions. Supervisory positions have had 0.2 percent increase. But basically everyone is stagnant. The entire corporate tax cut went to shareholders not labor. Terrible terrible policy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030016&forum_id=2#36458898) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:12 PM Author: Frozen mood pit It being nonsupervisory positions would seem to support my poast, no?
If poors didn't have jobs before and are now reentering the labor force in low paying jobs (some of which may have previously been held by undocumented people etc), they'd bring down the average. People in supervisory positions making more money also supports the idea that employees have more leverage. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Charcoal pistol Why would they bring the avg down? In a good economy usually new employees make more than their counterparts because wages are sticky for existing employees.
But anyway supervisory of 0.2 is not a win. That's stagnant wages. There's really no room here to claim wages are actually getting a boom but the stats don't reflect it. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Frozen mood pit I don't know about what you allege usually happens in a "good" economy to unskilled entry level workers, but I'm suggesting that the low tier workers finally getting jobs after more competent people have been working and improving their track record throughout the recession might indeed bring down the average, especially if some of the people formerly in those jobs are promoted to supervisory positions (many of which would also be low paying for supervisory positions as they're entry level supervisory positions.)
It looks to me like we're growing the pie, largely by hiring for more low wage jobs. That sounds better and less expensive and more productive than these people not having jobs. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Angry marvelous brunch telephone the drain they have on public services is the real problem.
libs wanting completely open boarders along with govt funded healthcare, massive increases in education spending, increased welfare, free college, ubi, and all the other handouts is what's really insane. or they simply want to destroy america and replace it with a 3rd world welfare state paid for by middle class cucks with no other options. |