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Can we have a non-unhinged discussion re Cohens plea & trump

Cohen pled guilty to a felony and said he committed the crim...
spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part
  08/21/18
What did Cohen *actually* say in court? Are there any transc...
infuriating private investor feces
  08/21/18
Lmao TSINAH
hateful brindle parlor
  08/21/18
Are you really an atty or do you just play one pretend?
Bistre market
  08/21/18
All I have is fake news cnn quoting what he said in court an...
spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part
  08/21/18
This guy asks all the right questions
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
...
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
Is failing to disclose a $130,000 payment a constitutional &...
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
That is the question. Is what Cohen said trump did even a vi...
spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part
  08/21/18
Of course not. It's not a crime just to TELL someone to do ...
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
Cohen paid out of pocket while not being an official member ...
unholy toaster
  08/21/18
I heard it comes down to "official membership." I...
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
1/10
unholy toaster
  08/21/18
...
Bistre market
  08/21/18
you're not really this dumb are you? please tell me ur not ...
aromatic fiercely-loyal karate
  08/21/18
What felony did Cohen commit at Trump's direction
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
Is campaign finance violation a felony? That is the one he s...
spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part
  08/21/18
Obama committed that one in 2008
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
Obama did this repeatedly in both 2008 and 2012. That's why...
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
Good one!
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
I'm assuming that he did this because you said he did, and y...
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
If my wife leaves me and my children for Darnell in order to...
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
You already are bro. Most posters assume your HYS magna due...
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
But is it the requisite level of keen intellect and analysis...
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
No, it's punishable by a fine.
maroon patrolman old irish cottage
  08/21/18
not the crime we are discussing
Bistre market
  08/21/18
Yes literally the same crime
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
According to dirty harry conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor ...
hateful brindle parlor
  08/21/18
...
Bistre market
  08/21/18
No one knows and it's not in the indictment. All fake.
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/michael...
Bistre market
  08/21/18
Is this similar to John Edwards?
dark hospital
  08/21/18
Edwards was an order of magnitude worse.
spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part
  08/21/18
You mean the recipient of the money was a magnitude uglier.
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
4th circuit has a jury instruction that that’s relevant to g...
spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part
  08/21/18
non-unhinged? gb2/TLS/, faggot!
thriller roommate
  08/21/18
So Cohen pled to bank and tax fraud. what is the actual a...
chest-beating bronze space
  08/21/18
Yes that's my read
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
Yea and that is what I think is a big hole. Trump likely did...
spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part
  08/21/18
Libs?
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
*libs eerily silent as various legal giants run shit on xo*
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&fo...
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
...
Bistre market
  08/21/18
He can argue that....
hateful brindle parlor
  08/21/18
who has the burden of proof?
chest-beating bronze space
  08/21/18
Prosecutor. Timing, Cohen's testimony, and the known and pot...
hateful brindle parlor
  08/21/18
Didnt cohen already say he didnt have a recording?
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
The recording that was released at minimum shows knowledge ...
hateful brindle parlor
  08/21/18
Are we talking about impeachment? Because that's the only t...
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
They were going to impeach him no matter what. Even if he cu...
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
Can we please try to keep this thread somewhat hinged?
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
You didn’t think Dems were going to impeach him if they took...
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
They need something to base it on.
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
They're going to base it on a campaign finance violation tha...
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
He’s just dumb
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
Try re-reading the thread slowly
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
Maybe you should?
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
Ok, let me make it plain. There is no threat of criminal ...
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
I completely agree with you. Your position was unclear from ...
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
Obstruction obviously
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
lolwut? Based on what?
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
Yeah, seriously!
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
lol your done here
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
I can only hope you're being purposefully obtuse
aromatic fiercely-loyal karate
  08/21/18
...
Bistre market
  08/21/18
LJL
aromatic fiercely-loyal karate
  08/21/18
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  08/21/18
Im gay
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  08/21/18
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silver charismatic locus
  08/21/18
No one knows, and there's no way to find out. Whatever you ...
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
this thread is not ur best work
Learning disabled sweet tailpipe
  08/21/18
lol I know
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
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Fragrant impressive indian lodge digit ratio
  08/21/18
lol im dying here bro
Bistre market
  08/21/18
Yes, except that apparently Cohen is willing to testify that...
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
sounds like it hinges on whether cohen has a recording or ev...
chest-beating bronze space
  08/21/18
I mean, we're talking about Senators making the call, so I'm...
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
...
infuriating private investor feces
  08/21/18
you'd have to be an idiot to believe that Trump wasn't in so...
Learning disabled sweet tailpipe
  08/21/18
Does influencing the election have to be the primary motivat...
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
idk
Learning disabled sweet tailpipe
  08/21/18
Cot dammit where are our xo election law SCHOLARS!?
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
should be easy to find a out on Lexis whether the intent to ...
Know-it-all Sanctuary
  08/21/18
Ljl at xo2018 having Lexis access
silver charismatic locus
  08/21/18
Then do it for me already
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
Well I was wrong, it's taken longer than five minutes and I'...
Know-it-all Sanctuary
  08/21/18
Libs sobbing, mewling at their television screens
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
...
hot hilarious bawdyhouse stock car
  08/21/18
Tyft Libs done here
hot hilarious bawdyhouse stock car
  08/21/18
I think the issue is that Cohen made the initial payment wit...
Vivacious drab area place of business
  08/21/18
Yeah, even Obama's former White House Counsel has said the c...
Stimulating theatre roast beef
  08/21/18
Shit like this is why I’m glad in my country you just kill d...
medicated rough-skinned genital piercing depressive
  08/21/18
Reading is hard, but here guise: https://www.washingtonpost....
concupiscible pistol toilet seat
  08/21/18
Man what would we do without you
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
Oh but that's from the Washington Post. We should just disr...
Bistre market
  08/21/18
No thats how Democracy Dies
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
...
silver charismatic locus
  08/21/18
[QUOTE] "I participated in this conduct ... for the pr...
infuriating private investor feces
  08/21/18
Jesus you're dense
hateful brindle parlor
  08/21/18
Scary to think he’s someone’s attorney
Transparent sinister property
  08/21/18
I just want to know what Cohen actually said in open court. ...
infuriating private investor feces
  08/21/18
seems very fishy I agree!!
Know-it-all Sanctuary
  08/21/18
oh shit!
Know-it-all Sanctuary
  08/21/18
Obviously some FEC violation isn’t a HC&M. But what’s th...
clear house-broken stag film
  08/21/18
Let's just keep investigating him forever. Eventually we'll ...
Thirsty red famous landscape painting
  08/21/18
maybe a hawaii judge will find that writs of assistance don'...
infuriating private investor feces
  08/21/18
I think you're right, but "he probably did some even mo...
metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo
  08/21/18
...
costumed irradiated faggot firefighter boistinker
  08/21/18
Cohen said "Pussy"
Dun Razzle Stage
  08/21/18
Seems not
Provocative gold native macaca
  08/21/18


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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part

Cohen pled guilty to a felony and said he committed the crime at the direction of trump.

Getting past the gloating of obeezy/wlmas, if Cohen cooperates could this not provide evidence of high crimes and misdemeanors?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658397)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: infuriating private investor feces

What did Cohen *actually* say in court? Are there any transcripts? All we have are his attorney's tweets about what he said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658401)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: hateful brindle parlor

Lmao TSINAH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658423)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: Bistre market

Are you really an atty or do you just play one pretend?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658432)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part

All I have is fake news cnn quoting what he said in court and I don’t know where they are getting it

Presumably it was open to the public and someone was there who heard him say it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658434)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

This guy asks all the right questions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658487)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658531)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

Is failing to disclose a $130,000 payment a constitutional "high crime [or] misdemeanor?"

Candidates fail to disclose stuff all the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658478)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part

That is the question. Is what Cohen said trump did even a violation of felony campaign finance laws in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658499)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

Of course not. It's not a crime just to TELL someone to do a crime. Stupid libs/courts/Mueller don't even know the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658526)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:40 PM
Author: unholy toaster

Cohen paid out of pocket while not being an official member of the campaign. That's why Mueller referred the case to another USA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658541)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

I heard it comes down to "official membership." It's right there in the statutes and laws and different stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658547)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: unholy toaster

1/10

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658558)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Bistre market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658553)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: aromatic fiercely-loyal karate

you're not really this dumb are you? please tell me ur not a lawyer or even a law student.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658607)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

What felony did Cohen commit at Trump's direction

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658407)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:27 PM
Author: spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part

Is campaign finance violation a felony? That is the one he said he did at trumps direction according to news articles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658414)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

Obama committed that one in 2008

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658428)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

Obama did this repeatedly in both 2008 and 2012. That's why he was indicted for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658498)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

Good one!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658509)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

I'm assuming that he did this because you said he did, and you're widely regarded as a top poster who knows a lot about history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658520)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

If my wife leaves me and my children for Darnell in order to smoke crack can I also be a top poster?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658528)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:40 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

You already are bro. Most posters assume your HYS magna due to your keen analysis and insight.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658540)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

But is it the requisite level of keen intellect and analysis to marry someone who loves crack more than her kids?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658551)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: maroon patrolman old irish cottage

No, it's punishable by a fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658444)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: Bistre market

not the crime we are discussing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658463)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

Yes literally the same crime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658476)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: hateful brindle parlor

According to dirty harry conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor is a felony

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658494)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: Bistre market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658568)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

No one knows and it's not in the indictment. All fake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658513)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:31 PM
Author: Bistre market

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/08/michael-cohen-guilty-plea-trump-campaign-finance/568054/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658451)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: dark hospital

Is this similar to John Edwards?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658460)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part

Edwards was an order of magnitude worse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658466)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

You mean the recipient of the money was a magnitude uglier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658502)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part

4th circuit has a jury instruction that that’s relevant to guilt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658536)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: thriller roommate

non-unhinged? gb2/TLS/, faggot!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658483)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: chest-beating bronze space

So Cohen pled to bank and tax fraud.

what is the actual accusation about trump? that he made an illegal campaign contribution to himself by spending $100K to pay a whore with his own money to protect himself - but because he was campaigning, we assume that protecting your reputation and influencing the campaign is one and the same?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658505)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

Yes that's my read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658515)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: spectacular cream affirmative action party of the first part

Yea and that is what I think is a big hole. Trump likely did not do it to influence an election because he does this stuff all the time when not running for office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658518)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

Libs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658527)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

*libs eerily silent as various legal giants run shit on xo*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658562)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658563

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658570)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Bistre market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658571)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: hateful brindle parlor

He can argue that....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658529)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: chest-beating bronze space

who has the burden of proof?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658532)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: hateful brindle parlor

Prosecutor. Timing, Cohen's testimony, and the known and potentially other recordings. But thats academic anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658546)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

Didnt cohen already say he didnt have a recording?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658556)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: hateful brindle parlor

The recording that was released at minimum shows knowledge

They were also discussing poll numbers the moment before.....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658586)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

Are we talking about impeachment? Because that's the only threat (for now). Not going to indict a sitting president.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658567)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

They were going to impeach him no matter what. Even if he cured cancer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658575)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

Can we please try to keep this thread somewhat hinged?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658596)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

You didn’t think Dems were going to impeach him if they took they house? Thats been obvious for a while now. They’ve been openly planning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658606)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

They need something to base it on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658615)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

They're going to base it on a campaign finance violation that Obama's was guilty of in 2008? Is that your non-unhinged premise?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658629)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

He’s just dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658634)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

Try re-reading the thread slowly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658635)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

Maybe you should?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658646)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

Ok, let me make it plain.

There is no threat of criminal indictment while Trump is president.

I think it is highly-unlikely that, even if Democrats win the House in November, Trump will be impeached based on this campaign finance violation charge.

If he is impeached, I think concepts like "burden of proof" are distorted, since we are talking about elected Senators making the decision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658663)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

I completely agree with you. Your position was unclear from this subthresd until now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658674)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

Obstruction obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658631)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

lolwut? Based on what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658638)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

Yeah, seriously!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658653)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

lol your done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658534)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: aromatic fiercely-loyal karate

I can only hope you're being purposefully obtuse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658617)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: Bistre market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658545)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: aromatic fiercely-loyal karate

LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658608)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:53 PM
Author: Chartreuse tantric locale wagecucks

Your honor, move to offer the Guys in my High School Defense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659586)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: 180 garrison jew

Im gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658519)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: silver charismatic locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658851)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

No one knows, and there's no way to find out. Whatever you do, do not read any articles or other "journalism" about this because it will all be lies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658535)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Learning disabled sweet tailpipe

this thread is not ur best work

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658563)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

lol I know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658580)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: Fragrant impressive indian lodge digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658640)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Bistre market

lol im dying here bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658584)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

Yes, except that apparently Cohen is willing to testify that Trump's intent was to influence the election.

So it looks like Trump knowingly committed a campaign finance violation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658555)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:45 PM
Author: chest-beating bronze space

sounds like it hinges on whether cohen has a recording or evidence of trump saying "please pay this money to influence the election" versus - pay the whore and make this go away.

Not sure how far Cohen's testimony alone goes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658589)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:46 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

I mean, we're talking about Senators making the call, so I'm not sure how much this is just going to be based on evidence, if it even gets that far.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658600)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: infuriating private investor feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658610)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Learning disabled sweet tailpipe

you'd have to be an idiot to believe that Trump wasn't in some sense hoping to "influence the election" .

That being said, impeachments are political trials not legal ones. Unless the Dems somehow parlay this into a supermajority this is all academic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658651)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

Does influencing the election have to be the primary motivation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658672)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:58 PM
Author: Learning disabled sweet tailpipe

idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658688)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

Cot dammit where are our xo election law SCHOLARS!?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658751)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: Know-it-all Sanctuary

should be easy to find a out on Lexis whether the intent to influence the election has to be the sole, or even primary, purpose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658764)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: silver charismatic locus

Ljl at xo2018 having Lexis access

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658859)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

Then do it for me already

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659295)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: Know-it-all Sanctuary

Well I was wrong, it's taken longer than five minutes and I'm bored now. Can't find anything definitive, but John Edwards won this exact case by claiming the funds were to protect his reputation. So perhaps that answers it. Would be interesting to see the jury instructions in that case, but I'd be surprised if the government had to prove that the sole intent was to help the election.

Edit: And shocklingly, those instructions are available:

The government does not have to prove that the sole or only purpose of the money was to influence the election. People rarely act with a single purpose in mind. On the other hand, if the donor would have made the gift or payment notwithstanding the election, it does not become a contribution merely because the gift or payment might have some impact on the election. Nor does it become acontribution just because the donor knew it might have some influence on the election and found that acceptable, if the donor’s real purpose was personal or otherwise unrelated to the election

https://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2012/05/jury-instructions-at-john-edwards-trial-123887

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659396)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:55 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

Libs sobbing, mewling at their television screens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659605)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 10:12 PM
Author: hot hilarious bawdyhouse stock car



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659697)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: hot hilarious bawdyhouse stock car

Tyft

Libs done here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659700)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: Vivacious drab area place of business

I think the issue is that Cohen made the initial payment with his own money (and was then reimbursed by Trump). If Trump just paid the money I imagine it’s a fuzzier issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658557)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: Stimulating theatre roast beef

Yeah, even Obama's former White House Counsel has said the campaign finance laws are ambiguous and it would be difficult to prosecute under the rules as written.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658576)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:44 PM
Author: medicated rough-skinned genital piercing depressive

Shit like this is why I’m glad in my country you just kill dudes and never litigate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658588)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: concupiscible pistol toilet seat

Reading is hard, but here guise: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trumps-longtime-lawyer-michael-cohen-is-in-plea-discussions-with-federal-prosecutors-according-to-a-person-familiar-with-the-matter/2018/08/21/5fbd7f34-8510-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html?sw_bypass=true&utm_term=.c5203f6ed73b

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658645)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

Man what would we do without you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658654)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Bistre market

Oh but that's from the Washington Post. We should just disregard it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658655)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

No thats how Democracy Dies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658664)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: silver charismatic locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658865)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: infuriating private investor feces

[QUOTE]

"I participated in this conduct ... for the principal purpose of influencing the election," [Cohen] said.

...

But Cohen said Tuesday that Trump repaid him the money for the purpose of influencing the campaign.

[/QUOTE]

So which one is it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658699)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: hateful brindle parlor

Jesus you're dense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658719)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:04 PM
Author: Transparent sinister property

Scary to think he’s someone’s attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658721)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: infuriating private investor feces

I just want to know what Cohen actually said in open court. Every media outlet is guilty of editorializing these stories to fit the narrative they're pushing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658774)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: Know-it-all Sanctuary

seems very fishy I agree!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659007)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:07 PM
Author: Know-it-all Sanctuary

oh shit!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658741)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: clear house-broken stag film

Obviously some FEC violation isn’t a HC&M. But what’s the chance trump’s illegal activity was limited to this minor shit? He doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy who worried about committing crimes if it meant winning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658659)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: Thirsty red famous landscape painting

Let's just keep investigating him forever. Eventually we'll find something!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658681)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: infuriating private investor feces

maybe a hawaii judge will find that writs of assistance don't violate the fourth amendment

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658750)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: metal mildly autistic twinkling uncleanness ceo

I think you're right, but "he probably did some even more shady shit" isn't exactly news or a basis for impeachment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658696)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: costumed irradiated faggot firefighter boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36660190)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: Dun Razzle Stage

Cohen said "Pussy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36658723)



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Date: August 21st, 2018 9:56 PM
Author: Provocative gold native macaca

Seems not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4057483&forum_id=2#36659609)