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Public school teachers are overpaid
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Date: October 20th, 2018 6:36 PM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37063418) |
Date: October 20th, 2018 6:36 PM Author: Boyish carmine water buffalo Well duh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37063421) |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 6:37 PM Author: Exhilarant bawdyhouse Depends on the state. A lot of them are though, yeah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37063424) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 3:23 PM Author: Glittery Sickened Base Mental Disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067366) |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 6:38 PM Author: Cerise heady range my mom teaches at a private school and makes less than public school teachers, despite the quality of instruction being MUCH better (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37063428) |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 6:47 PM Author: Exhilarant bawdyhouse Part of the “compensation” in that situation is avoiding shithead students, better personal safety, etc. to be fair.
Public schools would be better if they expelled troublemakers with reckless abandon. |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 6:56 PM Author: Cerise heady range public charters do this ALL the time, and it's one of the primary reasons that libs hate them so much (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37063524) |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 11:49 PM Author: Exhilarant bawdyhouse It's true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065232) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:12 AM Author: primrose hissy fit cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065371) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 3:22 PM Author: drunken garnet business firm party of the first part (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067364) |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 11:59 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone travel guidebook except plenty of private schools teach actual computer science and finance. i doubt public schools have these in their curriculum (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065296) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Multi-colored Smoky Corn Cake Lmao jjc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067213) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 11:50 PM Author: Thirsty talented skinny woman french chef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37070123) |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 11:51 PM Author: Citrine lascivious pistol Many states pay insane pensions
Public school teachers end up making more than doctors/lawyers if you look at the pensions |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 11:51 PM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape So they are the top 1% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065247) |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 11:52 PM Author: Citrine lascivious pistol yes, and they only work 8-9 months a year and retire after 20 years... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065252) |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 11:55 PM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape Why do voters in California keep voting for higher taxes to support this scam? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065267) |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 11:56 PM Author: Citrine lascivious pistol gee , why do boomers vote to keep their own pensions.....let the next generation deal with the budget crisis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065272) |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 11:55 PM Author: well-lubricated sticky telephone stage Cr. Many states let teachers retire at 30 years. Teachers can retire in mid-50s at 50-100% of pay with healthcare covered.
It's like they're getting 50k a year in deferred compensation while they're working.
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Date: October 20th, 2018 11:55 PM Author: Citrine lascivious pistol *20-25 years IME If you start teaching at 22, you are retired by 42... |
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Date: October 20th, 2018 11:57 PM Author: well-lubricated sticky telephone stage I ain't seen no 20 years son.
Military, cops, and firefighters maybe, not teachers. |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:03 AM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape Most cops retire after 25-30 years of service. That way they get more pension money.
Most government workers start in their mid 20s to mid 30s. |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:09 AM Author: bossy affirmative action That’s bullshit. Even in Illinois, the pensions don’t pay them out to the level of a lawyer with a private 401k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065357) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:09 AM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065361) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:11 AM Author: Citrine lascivious pistol (guy in denial)
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:15 AM Author: bossy affirmative action No dental. No day care. No social security for public teachers. You require them to be certified and they get no public benefit and require them to sign up for a teachers pension. Fuck you if I don’t understand. You expalain it to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065391) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:17 AM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape they don't pay for social security dude. You know how much a worker in private sector pay into social security? it's a lot of money. teachers don't pay any of that. they keep all that money. think about that...
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Date: October 21st, 2018 3:34 PM Author: dun laser beams legend Someone paying into ss gets a guaranteed benefit until death and the return is insane compared to what they pay in. They maybe pay the equivalent of like two years of their own benefits if that. SS is the best deal ever.
You don't actually think people's FICA payments fund their own benefits, right? LOLOLOLLLLL |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 5:49 PM Author: Infuriating Piazza Sex Offender "Someone paying into ss gets a guaranteed benefit until death and the return is insane compared to what they pay in."
lmao |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 11:44 PM Author: dun laser beams legend I know right. Best deal ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37070080) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:13 AM Author: lilac brunch genital piercing lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065381) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:16 AM Author: well-lubricated sticky telephone stage Dude use a calculator to figure out how much you'd need to save into a 401k per year at historical return rates to arrive at a teacher's 100k+ a year pension (which often comes with healthcare) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065397) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:17 AM Author: Citrine lascivious pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065406) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 12:17 AM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37065409) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 2:28 PM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067177) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 2:42 PM Author: Multi-colored Smoky Corn Cake 100k lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067246) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 2:47 PM Author: well-lubricated sticky telephone stage https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2018/06/04/the-exclusive-100000-club-meet-30000-members-at-the-illinois-teachers-retirement-system-trs/
30,000 Six-Figure Illinois Educators Cost Taxpayers $3.7 Billion
"For 30,000 Illinois educators, the new “minimum wage” is $100,000+. Nearly 20,000 of these employees are currently working, while the other 11,766 are retired – pulling down six-figure pensions." |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 2:49 PM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067272) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 2:33 PM Author: Balding cuckold This post is fucking stupid. Are teachers overpaid? Perhaps in some places, but obviously not nationally given that there aren't massive teacher surpluses. If you want to become a teach, it is pretty easy to do so (and in some places they will beg you to do it).
Contrast that with federal government workers and California police and firefighters. Are they overpaid? Obviously, because if you're white and want to get one of these jobs you sometimes need to win a literal lottery. |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape 80% of California firefighters are white. Fire departments practice nepotism. It is disgusting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067210) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 6:51 PM Author: cracking carnelian tanning salon There are thousands of unemployed education majors that can't find teaching jobs, and tons of substitute teachers who want a permanent spot but can only get a few hours of work a week. Of course there's no "surplus" of teachers -- the definition of a teacher is somebody a school had room to hire. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37068354) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:03 PM Author: thriller spot There are teacher shortages all over the country right now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37068423) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:43 PM Author: Citrine lascivious pistol For math, science and special ed, yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37068643) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 11:46 PM Author: thriller spot Yes for major subjects and services that make up almost half of all available teacher positions in middle and high schools. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37070097) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 2:43 PM Author: adventurous crystalline prole indian lodge Funny how such a chill, overcompensated profession is desperate for employees & many new hires quit within 3 years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067247) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 2:51 PM Author: Balding cuckold Just think about how college professors lecture like 4 hours a week. Public teachers have to be "on" like 35 hours.
Obviously a lot of that can just be work time or videos, but still, that's a lot of fucking time to kill. |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 3:02 PM Author: adventurous crystalline prole indian lodge Unlike every poster here who says public school teaching is a chill, overpaid profession, I’ve actually done it. I made 37k with a JD, & there’s no time to just surf the internet & gossip with coworkers. No, you’re constantly “on,” having administrators watch you, nitpick, & pile admin tasks onto actual teaching, & dealing with a constant stream of kids being assholes. It’s hell on Earth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067319) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 4:46 PM Author: Mind-boggling Son Of Senegal Heaven yeah try doing that 100 hours a week except you need actual skills and people die if you fuck up. teachers got paid $100k in my school district to be glorified babysitters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067707) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 6:21 PM Author: adventurous crystalline prole indian lodge Do you consider your school district the typical school district across America? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37068182) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 5:42 PM Author: Racy saffron national security agency ape Nice flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37067978) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:44 PM Author: Citrine lascivious pistol He taught in an inner city ghetto to be fair
Teaching in the suburbs is a dream |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 7:54 AM Author: adventurous crystalline prole indian lodge Are you new here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4111319&forum_id=2#37071024) |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 6:23 PM Author: bull headed rambunctious nowag ITT: the results of institional racism and AA at the highest levels
literally a retarded barely functioning public sector |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:10 PM Author: thriller spot Why aren’t people beating the door down to become teachers if it’s so easy and overpaid? There’s a huge shortage right now to the point where any mouth breather who can get an emergency credential can go teach.
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Date: October 21st, 2018 7:45 PM Author: Citrine lascivious pistol A lot of people don’t know math or science
Pretty sure the shortage is just for special ed, math and science |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 11:53 PM Author: well-lubricated sticky telephone stage Most of the value in being a teacher is the pension. Thus, there is a delayed gratification problem. This is the same reason why many people don't save into their 401ks, even if they get employer match.
Teachers have modest headline salaries, but they only work 75% of the year and can retire like kings after 30 years. Many people can't think 30 years ahead. |
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Date: October 21st, 2018 11:55 PM Author: Citrine lascivious pistol I would work for a 70k salary, 4 months off each year with no pension
Teachers are not that poorly compensated for the months they work per yr |
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Date: October 22nd, 2018 7:59 AM Author: adventurous crystalline prole indian lodge Think you’re seeing 70k off the bat? Think again. Most teachers across the country will never see that. I was paid 37k to start. With a JD. Which was a huge reason I said “fuck you” I’m not putting up with this shit for 37k. |