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FTC is investigating video game “loot boxes”

Basically you can spend real money on randomized in-game goo...
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It hooks kids into gambling and most sales come from addicts...
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Jesus fucking christ
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Theres a link to the patent language somewhere. Its as bad a...
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http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sec...
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damn
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fucking lol
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$$$
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something something GC hehe
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I appreciate the honesty; they're not trying to hide the bal...
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well done
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For example, in some conventional systems, a player who is a...
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They're literally directly saying that it's more fun for pla...
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And this is after paying $60 for call of duty
buff goal in life native
  11/28/18
Burn it down.
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LMFAO guillotines now
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Hope the gaming companies get pwned
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especially EA/Activision
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There is a real-money economy for these goods. It is a vehic...
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  11/28/18
Transaction costs are too high for it to be viable for any c...
Brilliant Stead Philosopher-king
  11/28/18
I know a guy who made $200,000 and change from CS:GO loot bo...
black love of her life therapy
  11/28/18
explain, he was reselling them or something?
Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal
  11/28/18
Yeah. Apparently a few years back some skins became super p...
black love of her life therapy
  11/28/18
Weird. Skins are just cosmetic and have no game effect. Surp...
Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal
  11/28/18
Trevor “McSkillet” Heitmann made enough money tr...
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lol
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wait just read up on this. he killed a mother and daughter. ...
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"he bought his nephew a Nissan Titan truck from the mon...
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There is a massive Grey market for items in massive games li...
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*govt stops kids from spending $200 on video games* *govt...
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GOOD DEBT never hurt nobody hehe
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they should be made illegal. it's an entire industry preying...
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what if they put an age limit on who can purchase loot boxes...
Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal
  11/28/18
Casinos are a strong value add.
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(Chinaman)
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(Guinea)
Crystalline Garrison Kitty
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this doesn't seem to conceptually make sense. nobody underag...
motley mahogany candlestick maker
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youre a gamer we get it
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fortunately i have a triple digit IQ so i've never bought lo...
motley mahogany candlestick maker
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Leave coinbase alone
Adulterous useless rigor
  11/28/18
crypto should also be banned, at least for everyone under 12...
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I think the problem with directly selling merchandise is it ...
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Yeah, chess was ruined when they began to allow people to pl...
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Lots/most of these items in the loot boxes are purely cosmet...
odious locale
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no, the "problem" is they wouldn't make as much mo...
motley mahogany candlestick maker
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Seems like a relatively easy call. Not sure why this needs t...
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UDAAP Anything that is "unfair" "deceptive...
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This is an international problem. In China, you have to d...
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Makes sense that the odds are horrible. EA has to make a ni...
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a very credited DBG post, actually one of the reasons why...
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(gook bug that spent thousands on a video game)
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http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533140&mc=30&am...
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thanks for confirmation that you're a weird gook insect that...
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made a lot of it back when i sold my character i still pl...
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(((loot boxes)))
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we're in the wrong timeline
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They should also investigate "free" mobile games
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Isn't the FTC relatively toothless though. I don't see anyth...
Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal
  11/28/18
No, they can fuck you up with a consent decree.
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FTC is a complete joke. My former advisor was the chief tech...
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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:07 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

Basically you can spend real money on randomized in-game goods. What is there to investigate here, is it because it’s like gambling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315153)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: buff goal in life native

It hooks kids into gambling and most sales come from addicts who spend thousands of dollars to roll a cool gun skin. Activision filed a patent that matches call of duty kids with higher skilled players who have the cool shit that's for sale so the kids get their ass kicked and beg mom for her cc to buy in game currency and buy that item

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315231)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: motley mahogany candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315264)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: carmine marvelous antidepressant drug

Jesus fucking christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315269)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Aqua doobsian puppy state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315312)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: judgmental glittery stock car

Theres a link to the patent language somewhere. Its as bad as it sounds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315394)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: buff goal in life native

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/9789406

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315532)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

damn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315550)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Free-loading stirring sweet tailpipe

Hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315628)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: judgmental glittery stock car

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315983)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Diverse tanning salon pervert

fucking lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316145)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: carmine marvelous antidepressant drug

Holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316146)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Beady-eyed institution persian

$$$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316162)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: Violent roommate juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316576)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: Alcoholic Umber Scourge Upon The Earth Resort

something something GC hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316584)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Avocado Talented Dilemma Double Fault

I appreciate the honesty; they're not trying to hide the ball here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316596)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Crystalline Garrison Kitty

well done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316599)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Provocative newt piazza

For example, in some conventional systems, a player who is at a certain skill level may never be matched with a player at a higher skill level, which may result in one dimensional and unsatisfying gameplay.

. . .

In another example, if a player has been performing poorly (e.g., getting killed at a rate higher than the player's historical rate), the scoring engine may dynamically adjust one or more coefficients to match the player in a game that will improve the player's performance. For example, the player may be matched with easier opponents, matched with better teammates, and/or placed in a game that is more tailored to the player's preferences (e.g., players that play in games more closely aligned with their preferences tend to perform better).

. . .

For example, in one implementation, the system may include a microtransaction engine that arranges matches to influence game-related purchases. For instance, the microtransaction engine may match a more expert/marquee player with a junior player to encourage the junior player to make game-related purchases of items possessed/used by the marquee player. A junior player may wish to emulate the marquee player by obtaining weapons or other items used by the marquee player.

The microtransaction engine may analyze various items used by marquee players and, if the items are being promoted for sale, match the marquee player with another player (e.g., a junior player) that does not use or own the items. Similarly, the microtransaction engine may identify items to be promoted, identify marquee players that use those items, and match the marquee players with other players who do not use those items. In this manner, the microtransaction engine may leverage the matchmaking abilities described herein to influence purchase decisions for game-related purchases.

In one implementation, the microtransaction engine may target particular players to make game-related purchases based on their interests. For example, the microtransaction engine may identify a junior player to match with a marquee player based on a player profile of the junior player. In a particular example, the junior player may wish to become an expert sniper in a game (e.g., as determined from the player profile). The microtransaction engine may match the junior player with a player that is a highly skilled sniper in the game. In this manner, the junior player may be encouraged to make game-related purchases such as a rifle or other item used by the marquee player.

In one implementation, when a player makes a game-related purchase, the microtransaction engine may encourage future purchases by matching the player (e.g., using matchmaking described herein) in a gameplay session that will utilize the game-related purchase. Doing so may enhance a level of enjoyment by the player for the game-related purchase, which may encourage future purchases. For example, if the player purchased a particular weapon, the microtransaction engine may match the player in a gameplay session in which the particular weapon is highly effective, giving the player an impression that the particular weapon was a good purchase. This may encourage the player to make future purchases to achieve similar gameplay results.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316654)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: buff goal in life native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316897)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: Provocative newt piazza

They're literally directly saying that it's more fun for players to be matched with similar skill levels but that they're going to lead noobs to the slaughter to get them to pay to win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316942)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: buff goal in life native

And this is after paying $60 for call of duty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37317032)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: peach lascivious indian lodge faggot firefighter

Burn it down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37317023)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: Coral mind-boggling hissy fit

LMFAO guillotines now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316189)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Adulterous useless rigor

Hope the gaming companies get pwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315237)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

especially EA/Activision

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315247)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: haunting address cumskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315332)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: olive abusive temple partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315348)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Disrespectful stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316019)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: low-t azure theater stage dysfunction

There is a real-money economy for these goods. It is a vehicle for money laundering and creates an incentive for identity theft.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315244)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Brilliant Stead Philosopher-king

Transaction costs are too high for it to be viable for any crook except scamming Russian and Brazilian teenagers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316142)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: black love of her life therapy

I know a guy who made $200,000 and change from CS:GO loot boxes things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315252)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

explain, he was reselling them or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315258)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: black love of her life therapy

Yeah. Apparently a few years back some skins became super popular and this guy had a bunch of them and was selling them for mad money. Don't really know the mechanics of it all because I don't fuck with Counter Strike, but he bought his nephew a Nissan Titan truck from the money he made

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315292)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

Weird. Skins are just cosmetic and have no game effect. Surprised people are willing to pay so much for them in a game of supposed skill like CS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315305)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: apoplectic mint center headpube

Trevor “McSkillet” Heitmann made enough money trading Counter Strike skins that he bought a McLaren, then suicided in it by intentially crashing into another car after getting b& from CS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315402)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315414)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

wait just read up on this. he killed a mother and daughter. sad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315447)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Diverse tanning salon pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316158)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Garnet razzmatazz point

"he bought his nephew a Nissan Titan truck from the money he made"

Once of the more potent prole tells I've seen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315390)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: primrose ape round eye

There is a massive Grey market for items in massive games like Wow and CS:GO

Ppl earn real money from in-game labor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315380)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: Sable elite church building

*govt stops kids from spending $200 on video games*

*govt enourages kids to spend $200k on worthless college degree*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315257)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: Crystalline Garrison Kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315262)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Aqua doobsian puppy state



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315317)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: Violent place of business

GOOD DEBT never hurt nobody hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315485)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Disrespectful stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316024)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Diverse tanning salon pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316160)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Smoky fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316616)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: motley mahogany candlestick maker

they should be made illegal. it's an entire industry preying on children and addicts and adding zero value to society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315263)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

what if they put an age limit on who can purchase loot boxes, then it would essentially no different than a casino

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315268)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: low-t azure theater stage dysfunction

Casinos are a strong value add.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315275)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

(Chinaman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315279)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Crystalline Garrison Kitty

(Guinea)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315297)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: motley mahogany candlestick maker

this doesn't seem to conceptually make sense. nobody underage is directly purchasing loot boxes - you can't even open a credit card in your name until you're 18 (i think?) these kids are all demanding loot boxes from their parents and the parents just give in because they figure they're buying their kid some cool in-game item that they want or something like that

in reality, you can't directly purchase items in these games - just tons of loot boxes, and hope you get lucky. and you can't trade items between players either to get around this issue. the entire system is just outrageously jewy and exploitative and should be legally banned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315303)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Crystalline Garrison Kitty

youre a gamer we get it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315308)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:34 PM
Author: motley mahogany candlestick maker

fortunately i have a triple digit IQ so i've never bought loot boxes. but i still think they should be banned. no reason why we should be allowing these companies to go around jewing a bunch of children and borderline retarded adults

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315334)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Adulterous useless rigor

Leave coinbase alone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315343)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: motley mahogany candlestick maker

crypto should also be banned, at least for everyone under 120 IQ hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315460)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

I think the problem with directly selling merchandise is it removes the element of chance and renders the game "pay to win". I could be wrong though, I've never once paid for in-game shit and don't know much about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315358)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: apoplectic mint center headpube

Yeah, chess was ruined when they began to allow people to play with an extra queen for $10K each.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315446)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: Coral mind-boggling hissy fit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316228)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: odious locale

Lots/most of these items in the loot boxes are purely cosmetic because there is usually a big backlash for pay to win in games. At the very least most pay to win shit is obtainable by (many hours) of grinding in the game.

And it being a gamble doesn't make it any less pay to win than direct selling, it just makes it more expensive on average to get whatever you want.

I could be wrong, I don't play many games with these sorts of loot boxes and have paid maybe ten bucks for them total in support of free games I've sunk thousands of hours into.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315747)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: motley mahogany candlestick maker

no, the "problem" is they wouldn't make as much money that way, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316738)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:26 PM
Author: odious locale

Seems like a relatively easy call. Not sure why this needs to be legal. There's no benefit to consumers at all except the fairly shitty argument that people who freely roll the dice are subsidizing players who don't. It's a fairly shitty argument because it's preying on gambling tendencies and they could just as easily sell the loot directly instead of making it a gamble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315283)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: vibrant skinny woman

UDAAP

Anything that is "unfair" "deceptive" or "abusive" -- each of which is vague as fuck -- is illegal.

The feds can basically claim anything is "abusive".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315295)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: turquoise hairraiser hominid field

This is an international problem.

In China, you have to disclose the odds associated with loot boxes. Of course they’re horrible.

In Belgium, they’re outright banned.

Game companies are not able to resist the easy money that comes from getting retard kids and retard whales to buy pulls of the slot machine lever and it is legit killing the gaming industry. This shit needs to be banned for the greater good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315404)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: Thriller frozen meetinghouse chad

Makes sense that the odds are horrible. EA has to make a nice markup for it to be worthwhile to create more imaginary electronic merchandise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315684)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Aggressive demanding tattoo

a very credited DBG post, actually

one of the reasons why i stopped paying money for a phone game i used to spend thousands on

said game company had a class action lawsuit filed against them as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316910)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Angry Range

(gook bug that spent thousands on a video game)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316929)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: Aggressive demanding tattoo

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533140&mc=30&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316938)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Angry Range

thanks for confirmation that you're a weird gook insect that wastes $ on video games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316945)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: Aggressive demanding tattoo

made a lot of it back when i sold my character

i still play the game but i dont spend real money on it anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316949)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Self-absorbed People Who Are Hurt Jewess

(((loot boxes)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315408)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Cerebral menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316259)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: Vigorous Ruby Pistol Hell

we're in the wrong timeline

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315469)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: Electric Alcoholic Fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316645)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Gold mad cow disease

They should also investigate "free" mobile games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315517)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: Duck-like Business Firm Son Of Senegal

Isn't the FTC relatively toothless though. I don't see anything coming of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315528)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: carmine marvelous antidepressant drug

No, they can fuck you up with a consent decree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316156)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Disrespectful stag film

FTC is a complete joke. My former advisor was the chief technologist and was a catty old boomer draft dodger with the temerity to protest the war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316197)