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FTC is investigating video game “loot boxes”

Basically you can spend real money on randomized in-game goo...
Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon
  11/28/18
It hooks kids into gambling and most sales come from addicts...
Blue Corn Cake
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Deranged Appetizing Base
  11/28/18
Jesus fucking christ
big rehab love of her life
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motley carnelian messiness
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Theres a link to the patent language somewhere. Its as bad a...
poppy locus
  11/28/18
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sec...
Blue Corn Cake
  11/28/18
damn
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  11/28/18
Hehe
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jfc
poppy locus
  11/28/18
fucking lol
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  11/28/18
Holy shit
big rehab love of her life
  11/28/18
$$$
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Misunderstood Exhilarant Therapy
  11/28/18
something something GC hehe
provocative orchestra pit nowag
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I appreciate the honesty; they're not trying to hide the bal...
vivacious bonkers field factory reset button
  11/28/18
well done
Turquoise filthy sneaky criminal
  11/28/18
For example, in some conventional systems, a player who is a...
pontificating slimy stead
  11/28/18
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Blue Corn Cake
  11/28/18
They're literally directly saying that it's more fun for pla...
pontificating slimy stead
  11/28/18
And this is after paying $60 for call of duty
Blue Corn Cake
  11/28/18
Burn it down.
abnormal vibrant twinkling uncleanness spot
  11/28/18
LMFAO guillotines now
Talking regret shrine
  11/28/18
Hope the gaming companies get pwned
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  11/28/18
especially EA/Activision
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There is a real-money economy for these goods. It is a vehic...
dashing idiot
  11/28/18
Transaction costs are too high for it to be viable for any c...
Elite faggot firefighter
  11/28/18
I know a guy who made $200,000 and change from CS:GO loot bo...
sinister brunch pisswyrm
  11/28/18
explain, he was reselling them or something?
Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon
  11/28/18
Yeah. Apparently a few years back some skins became super p...
sinister brunch pisswyrm
  11/28/18
Weird. Skins are just cosmetic and have no game effect. Surp...
Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon
  11/28/18
Trevor “McSkillet” Heitmann made enough money tr...
Medicated Range Patrolman
  11/28/18
lol
Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon
  11/28/18
wait just read up on this. he killed a mother and daughter. ...
Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon
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Violent Gay Wizard Dog Poop
  11/28/18
"he bought his nephew a Nissan Titan truck from the mon...
floppy jet-lagged stage crotch
  11/28/18
There is a massive Grey market for items in massive games li...
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*govt stops kids from spending $200 on video games* *govt...
obsidian pea-brained principal's office
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Turquoise filthy sneaky criminal
  11/28/18
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motley carnelian messiness
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GOOD DEBT never hurt nobody hehe
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Harsh histrionic den
  11/28/18
they should be made illegal. it's an entire industry preying...
Deranged Appetizing Base
  11/28/18
what if they put an age limit on who can purchase loot boxes...
Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon
  11/28/18
Casinos are a strong value add.
dashing idiot
  11/28/18
(Chinaman)
Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon
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(Guinea)
Turquoise filthy sneaky criminal
  11/28/18
this doesn't seem to conceptually make sense. nobody underag...
Deranged Appetizing Base
  11/28/18
youre a gamer we get it
Turquoise filthy sneaky criminal
  11/28/18
fortunately i have a triple digit IQ so i've never bought lo...
Deranged Appetizing Base
  11/28/18
Leave coinbase alone
Pink seedy place of business school cafeteria
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crypto should also be banned, at least for everyone under 12...
Deranged Appetizing Base
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I think the problem with directly selling merchandise is it ...
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Yeah, chess was ruined when they began to allow people to pl...
Medicated Range Patrolman
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Lots/most of these items in the loot boxes are purely cosmet...
Bronze insanely creepy trailer park striped hyena
  11/28/18
no, the "problem" is they wouldn't make as much mo...
Deranged Appetizing Base
  11/28/18
Seems like a relatively easy call. Not sure why this needs t...
Bronze insanely creepy trailer park striped hyena
  11/28/18
UDAAP Anything that is "unfair" "deceptive...
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This is an international problem. In China, you have to d...
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Makes sense that the odds are horrible. EA has to make a ni...
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a very credited DBG post, actually one of the reasons why...
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(gook bug that spent thousands on a video game)
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http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533140&mc=30&am...
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thanks for confirmation that you're a weird gook insect that...
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made a lot of it back when i sold my character i still pl...
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(((loot boxes)))
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Ruddy Elastic Band Mad Cow Disease
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we're in the wrong timeline
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They should also investigate "free" mobile games
Sticky State
  11/28/18
Isn't the FTC relatively toothless though. I don't see anyth...
Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon
  11/28/18
No, they can fuck you up with a consent decree.
big rehab love of her life
  11/28/18
FTC is a complete joke. My former advisor was the chief tech...
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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:07 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

Basically you can spend real money on randomized in-game goods. What is there to investigate here, is it because it’s like gambling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315153)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Blue Corn Cake

It hooks kids into gambling and most sales come from addicts who spend thousands of dollars to roll a cool gun skin. Activision filed a patent that matches call of duty kids with higher skilled players who have the cool shit that's for sale so the kids get their ass kicked and beg mom for her cc to buy in game currency and buy that item

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315231)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315241)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: Deranged Appetizing Base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315264)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: big rehab love of her life

Jesus fucking christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315269)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: motley carnelian messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315312)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: poppy locus

Theres a link to the patent language somewhere. Its as bad as it sounds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315394)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Blue Corn Cake

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/9789406

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315532)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:04 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

damn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315550)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:18 PM
Author: Mauve magical travel guidebook

Hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315628)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: poppy locus

jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315983)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Violent Gay Wizard Dog Poop

fucking lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316145)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: big rehab love of her life

Holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316146)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone keepsake machete persian

$$$

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316162)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: Misunderstood Exhilarant Therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316576)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: provocative orchestra pit nowag

something something GC hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316584)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: vivacious bonkers field factory reset button

I appreciate the honesty; they're not trying to hide the ball here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316596)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Turquoise filthy sneaky criminal

well done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316599)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: pontificating slimy stead

For example, in some conventional systems, a player who is at a certain skill level may never be matched with a player at a higher skill level, which may result in one dimensional and unsatisfying gameplay.

. . .

In another example, if a player has been performing poorly (e.g., getting killed at a rate higher than the player's historical rate), the scoring engine may dynamically adjust one or more coefficients to match the player in a game that will improve the player's performance. For example, the player may be matched with easier opponents, matched with better teammates, and/or placed in a game that is more tailored to the player's preferences (e.g., players that play in games more closely aligned with their preferences tend to perform better).

. . .

For example, in one implementation, the system may include a microtransaction engine that arranges matches to influence game-related purchases. For instance, the microtransaction engine may match a more expert/marquee player with a junior player to encourage the junior player to make game-related purchases of items possessed/used by the marquee player. A junior player may wish to emulate the marquee player by obtaining weapons or other items used by the marquee player.

The microtransaction engine may analyze various items used by marquee players and, if the items are being promoted for sale, match the marquee player with another player (e.g., a junior player) that does not use or own the items. Similarly, the microtransaction engine may identify items to be promoted, identify marquee players that use those items, and match the marquee players with other players who do not use those items. In this manner, the microtransaction engine may leverage the matchmaking abilities described herein to influence purchase decisions for game-related purchases.

In one implementation, the microtransaction engine may target particular players to make game-related purchases based on their interests. For example, the microtransaction engine may identify a junior player to match with a marquee player based on a player profile of the junior player. In a particular example, the junior player may wish to become an expert sniper in a game (e.g., as determined from the player profile). The microtransaction engine may match the junior player with a player that is a highly skilled sniper in the game. In this manner, the junior player may be encouraged to make game-related purchases such as a rifle or other item used by the marquee player.

In one implementation, when a player makes a game-related purchase, the microtransaction engine may encourage future purchases by matching the player (e.g., using matchmaking described herein) in a gameplay session that will utilize the game-related purchase. Doing so may enhance a level of enjoyment by the player for the game-related purchase, which may encourage future purchases. For example, if the player purchased a particular weapon, the microtransaction engine may match the player in a gameplay session in which the particular weapon is highly effective, giving the player an impression that the particular weapon was a good purchase. This may encourage the player to make future purchases to achieve similar gameplay results.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316654)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: Blue Corn Cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316897)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: pontificating slimy stead

They're literally directly saying that it's more fun for players to be matched with similar skill levels but that they're going to lead noobs to the slaughter to get them to pay to win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316942)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: Blue Corn Cake

And this is after paying $60 for call of duty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37317032)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: abnormal vibrant twinkling uncleanness spot

Burn it down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37317023)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: Talking regret shrine

LMFAO guillotines now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316189)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: Pink seedy place of business school cafeteria

Hope the gaming companies get pwned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315237)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

especially EA/Activision

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315247)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: Infuriating indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315332)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: vengeful aromatic school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315348)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Hyperventilating cuck tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316019)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: dashing idiot

There is a real-money economy for these goods. It is a vehicle for money laundering and creates an incentive for identity theft.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315244)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Elite faggot firefighter

Transaction costs are too high for it to be viable for any crook except scamming Russian and Brazilian teenagers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316142)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: sinister brunch pisswyrm

I know a guy who made $200,000 and change from CS:GO loot boxes things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315252)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

explain, he was reselling them or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315258)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: sinister brunch pisswyrm

Yeah. Apparently a few years back some skins became super popular and this guy had a bunch of them and was selling them for mad money. Don't really know the mechanics of it all because I don't fuck with Counter Strike, but he bought his nephew a Nissan Titan truck from the money he made

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315292)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

Weird. Skins are just cosmetic and have no game effect. Surprised people are willing to pay so much for them in a game of supposed skill like CS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315305)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Medicated Range Patrolman

Trevor “McSkillet” Heitmann made enough money trading Counter Strike skins that he bought a McLaren, then suicided in it by intentially crashing into another car after getting b& from CS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315402)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315414)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

wait just read up on this. he killed a mother and daughter. sad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315447)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Violent Gay Wizard Dog Poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316158)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: floppy jet-lagged stage crotch

"he bought his nephew a Nissan Titan truck from the money he made"

Once of the more potent prole tells I've seen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315390)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone hideous kitchen background story

There is a massive Grey market for items in massive games like Wow and CS:GO

Ppl earn real money from in-game labor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315380)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: obsidian pea-brained principal's office

*govt stops kids from spending $200 on video games*

*govt enourages kids to spend $200k on worthless college degree*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315257)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: Turquoise filthy sneaky criminal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315262)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: motley carnelian messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315317)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:56 PM
Author: nubile chad

GOOD DEBT never hurt nobody hehe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315485)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Hyperventilating cuck tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316024)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Violent Gay Wizard Dog Poop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316160)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Harsh histrionic den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316616)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:23 PM
Author: Deranged Appetizing Base

they should be made illegal. it's an entire industry preying on children and addicts and adding zero value to society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315263)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

what if they put an age limit on who can purchase loot boxes, then it would essentially no different than a casino

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315268)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: dashing idiot

Casinos are a strong value add.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315275)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

(Chinaman)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315279)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Turquoise filthy sneaky criminal

(Guinea)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315297)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Deranged Appetizing Base

this doesn't seem to conceptually make sense. nobody underage is directly purchasing loot boxes - you can't even open a credit card in your name until you're 18 (i think?) these kids are all demanding loot boxes from their parents and the parents just give in because they figure they're buying their kid some cool in-game item that they want or something like that

in reality, you can't directly purchase items in these games - just tons of loot boxes, and hope you get lucky. and you can't trade items between players either to get around this issue. the entire system is just outrageously jewy and exploitative and should be legally banned

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315303)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Turquoise filthy sneaky criminal

youre a gamer we get it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315308)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:34 PM
Author: Deranged Appetizing Base

fortunately i have a triple digit IQ so i've never bought loot boxes. but i still think they should be banned. no reason why we should be allowing these companies to go around jewing a bunch of children and borderline retarded adults

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315334)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Pink seedy place of business school cafeteria

Leave coinbase alone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315343)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: Deranged Appetizing Base

crypto should also be banned, at least for everyone under 120 IQ hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315460)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

I think the problem with directly selling merchandise is it removes the element of chance and renders the game "pay to win". I could be wrong though, I've never once paid for in-game shit and don't know much about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315358)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Medicated Range Patrolman

Yeah, chess was ruined when they began to allow people to play with an extra queen for $10K each.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315446)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: Talking regret shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316228)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: Bronze insanely creepy trailer park striped hyena

Lots/most of these items in the loot boxes are purely cosmetic because there is usually a big backlash for pay to win in games. At the very least most pay to win shit is obtainable by (many hours) of grinding in the game.

And it being a gamble doesn't make it any less pay to win than direct selling, it just makes it more expensive on average to get whatever you want.

I could be wrong, I don't play many games with these sorts of loot boxes and have paid maybe ten bucks for them total in support of free games I've sunk thousands of hours into.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315747)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: Deranged Appetizing Base

no, the "problem" is they wouldn't make as much money that way, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316738)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:26 PM
Author: Bronze insanely creepy trailer park striped hyena

Seems like a relatively easy call. Not sure why this needs to be legal. There's no benefit to consumers at all except the fairly shitty argument that people who freely roll the dice are subsidizing players who don't. It's a fairly shitty argument because it's preying on gambling tendencies and they could just as easily sell the loot directly instead of making it a gamble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315283)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: khaki disturbing site

UDAAP

Anything that is "unfair" "deceptive" or "abusive" -- each of which is vague as fuck -- is illegal.

The feds can basically claim anything is "abusive".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315295)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Rambunctious grizzly point

This is an international problem.

In China, you have to disclose the odds associated with loot boxes. Of course they’re horrible.

In Belgium, they’re outright banned.

Game companies are not able to resist the easy money that comes from getting retard kids and retard whales to buy pulls of the slot machine lever and it is legit killing the gaming industry. This shit needs to be banned for the greater good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315404)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: green abode sandwich

Makes sense that the odds are horrible. EA has to make a nice markup for it to be worthwhile to create more imaginary electronic merchandise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315684)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: garnet boltzmann property

a very credited DBG post, actually

one of the reasons why i stopped paying money for a phone game i used to spend thousands on

said game company had a class action lawsuit filed against them as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316910)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: Diverse bisexual pistol

(gook bug that spent thousands on a video game)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316929)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: garnet boltzmann property

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3533140&mc=30&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316938)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: Diverse bisexual pistol

thanks for confirmation that you're a weird gook insect that wastes $ on video games.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316945)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: garnet boltzmann property

made a lot of it back when i sold my character

i still play the game but i dont spend real money on it anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316949)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Fluffy yellow dingle berry address

(((loot boxes)))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315408)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Ruddy Elastic Band Mad Cow Disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316259)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: heady crackhouse

we're in the wrong timeline

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315469)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: hairless salmon headpube halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316645)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: Sticky State

They should also investigate "free" mobile games

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315517)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: Aqua Hairraiser Tanning Salon

Isn't the FTC relatively toothless though. I don't see anything coming of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37315528)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: big rehab love of her life

No, they can fuck you up with a consent decree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316156)



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Date: November 28th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Hyperventilating cuck tattoo

FTC is a complete joke. My former advisor was the chief technologist and was a catty old boomer draft dodger with the temerity to protest the war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4144411&forum_id=2#37316197)