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China strikes back against K-pop.

https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-china-masculinity-pop-id...
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Primrose mother public bath
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Can’t argue with China on this
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180
Hideous insane windowlicker prole
  04/27/19
The whole article is full of comedic 180s
Soul-stirring Knife Liquid Oxygen
  04/27/19
Agreed, it’s very xo
Hideous insane windowlicker prole
  04/27/19
How does a communist far-left government reconcile ultranati...
Primrose mother public bath
  04/27/19
Based China. Reprogramming the muzzies, turning men into a...
awkward poppy den
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Territorial razzle state love of her life
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paste
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Metal water buffalo stage
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If they ban marvel movies too they'd become 190
sick magical house electric furnace
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uvt's masturbating his clitdick somewhere reading this.
Cerise beady-eyed property community account
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Jfc libs Li Chao, 21, lives in an plush outer-Beijing apa...
nubile sickened jewess piazza
  04/28/19
living the dream.
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MGTOW
pearly flirting hospital
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Cerise beady-eyed property community account
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Can someone copy and paste the article? I’m paywalled...
overrated abode wrinkle
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To fight K-pop’s influence in China, a club teaches yo...
Soul-stirring Knife Liquid Oxygen
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Date: April 27th, 2019 7:41 PM
Author: Primrose mother public bath

https://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-china-masculinity-pop-idols-backlash-20190426-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38152584)



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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:12 PM
Author: Primrose mother public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153150)



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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:22 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Knife Liquid Oxygen

Can’t argue with China on this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153215)



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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:23 PM
Author: Hideous insane windowlicker prole

180

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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:29 PM
Author: Soul-stirring Knife Liquid Oxygen

The whole article is full of comedic 180s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153256)



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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:31 PM
Author: Hideous insane windowlicker prole

Agreed, it’s very xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153259)



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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:32 PM
Author: Primrose mother public bath

How does a communist far-left government reconcile ultranationalism? I don't get it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153263)



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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:37 PM
Author: awkward poppy den

Based China. Reprogramming the muzzies, turning men into alphas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153287)



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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:37 PM
Author: Territorial razzle state love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153295)



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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:37 PM
Author: Carmine Frum Black Woman Tanning Salon

paste

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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:38 PM
Author: Metal water buffalo stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153304)



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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:39 PM
Author: sick magical house electric furnace

If they ban marvel movies too they'd become 190

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153308)



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Date: April 27th, 2019 10:39 PM
Author: Cerise beady-eyed property community account

uvt's masturbating his clitdick somewhere reading this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153309)



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Date: April 28th, 2019 12:46 AM
Author: nubile sickened jewess piazza

Jfc libs

Li Chao, 21, lives in an plush outer-Beijing apartment with two assistants and a brown toy poodle named Coffee. He is the kind of man many conservatives despise. His hair is artfully mussed, and he wears a subtle rose shade on his eyelids, a natural lipstick and pale foundation. He makes $30,000 a month live-streaming himself applying makeup, an extraordinary sum for a young man without a degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153895)



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Date: April 28th, 2019 12:51 AM
Author: Cerise beady-eyed property community account

living the dream.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153909)



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Date: April 28th, 2019 12:54 AM
Author: pearly flirting hospital

MGTOW

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153917)



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Date: April 28th, 2019 12:58 AM
Author: Cerise beady-eyed property community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153923)



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Date: April 28th, 2019 1:00 AM
Author: overrated abode wrinkle

Can someone copy and paste the article? I’m paywalled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38153927)



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Date: April 29th, 2019 11:02 AM
Author: Soul-stirring Knife Liquid Oxygen

To fight K-pop’s influence in China, a club teaches young boys to be alpha males

By ROBYN DIXON

APR 26, 2019 | 5:00 AM

BEIJING, CHINA

Masculinity movement in China

Boys recite a pledge before group activities. (Yan Cong / For The Times)

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It is 14 degrees the morning two dozen boys gather at a Beijing park to be transformed into alpha males. A reluctant winter sun casts silver light between treacherously cold shadows. The wind bites, worsening nerves as the boys — the youngest 7 — prepare to strip to their waists for a run.

One of the watching mothers is worried. She wants her son to grow into a macho male, but it’s so cold. She tells him he can keep his shirt on, or perhaps skip the run through Olympic Forest Park.

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This is the kind of “feminine” parenting that coach Tang Haiyan fears can ruin boys. Tang, a former schoolteacher, founded the Real Man Training Club to combat what he and others in China see as a masculinity crisis — part of a backlash against the makeup- and earring-wearing male TV, film and pop idols who have gained immense popularity here.

“If you are promoting these effeminate figures,” Tang said, “it’s a calamity for our country.”

In a nation where men dominate political and business leadership and campaigns for gender equality have gained little traction, the debate over what is “effeminate” has become a popular pastime among older conservative residents, and mostly among men.

Influenced by K-pop idols in Korea, China’s boy bands and celebrities — with their delicate beauty, dyed hair and haute couture wardrobes — have a massive following among women here. But China’s state-run media condemns the young idols, calling them “sissy pants" and “fresh young meat.”

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The backlash deepened after a back-to-school TV program featured the boy band F4. Angry parents attacked the Education Ministry’s decision to hold up the cosmetics-wearing young men as role models; state media warned that a “sick” and “decadent” culture threatened the future of the nation. This year, a Chinese videostreaming website started blurring earrings worn by men.

“The gender stereotyping is not just about gender identity itself,” said an author and researcher on Chinese masculinity. “It’s about the reproduction of the nation and how to properly cultivate the next generation.”

Song Geng of the University of Hong Kong said the fear partly reflects deep-seated insecurity about Chinese power, after historical humiliations such as the opium wars and domination of Chinese rulers by foreign imperial powers.

“They’re worrying that if Chinese men are so effeminate… then we will become a weak country in future and we cannot compete with our rivals,” he said. “There’s anxiety about the virility of the nation being harmed by those effeminate male images.”

Screenwriter Wang Hailin says the young men resemble male prostitutes sought after by some affluent older women. “We need to be aware of this effeminacy before it’s too late and deal with it,” said Wang, 48.

He has berated fellow screenwriters, saying they portray men as “wimps, cowards, losers and idiots” and that China should look to Hollywood for strong alpha male characters.

“It’s created the impression that Chinese men are all weak, irresponsible and indifferent,” he warned. “Male actors represent national ideology. We cannot encourage the younger generation to look up to them as role models.”

Chinese military leaders seem to share fears about the nation’s men, with the army newspaper People’s Liberation Army Daily complaining that 20% of recruits were not fit enough to pass the fitness test for admission because they were overweight, watched too many cellphone videos, drank too much or masturbated too often.

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Boys pledge and chant before stripping to the waist for a run through a freezing Beijing park.

Boys pledge and chant before stripping to the waist for a run through a freezing Beijing park. (Yan Cong / For The Times)

‘Reserve for alpha males’

Tang likens his club to a “reserve for alpha males.”

On the morning of the shirtless run, the boys arrive clad in down jackets, but one by one the layers come off. Each boy dons a headband with the words “Real Man.” Their track suits and shirts display slogans in English such as “Power Leader” and “Anything is Possible.”

Tang and other male mentors lead the boys in chest beating and slogan shouting.

Parents watch their boys and hold jackets at the park.

Parents watch their boys and hold jackets at the park. (Yan Cong / For The Times)

Huddling nearby, parents — mainly mothers — shuffle from one foot to another as if to dance the cold away, taking cellphone photos of their sons. They say the boys chose to take part in the club, which offers weekly activities including American football, wrestling and boxing, and annual treks through the desert and mountains.

The boys box the air and run in place; a few look self-conscious, their movements slow and awkward. The boy whose mother said he could skip the run is with them. In this club, boys who cry are ignored; for the 11-year-old, opting out would have brought a monumental loss of face.

“I think it’s a good opportunity for him to gradually cultivate a macho character,” said his mother, who gave her surname as Chen. She described her son as shy and introverted and said participating in outdoor camps boosts his confidence.

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“If you are a male, you are supposed to have those male traits. If you are a girl, you tend to be softer,” Chen said. “But I don’t think the entertainment industry has shown good role models for the society because the celebrities they put on the big screen exhibit a more feminine side of men. That’s the problem.”

‘A delicate face does not mean a weak heart’

Li Chao, 21, lives in an plush outer-Beijing apartment with two assistants and a brown toy poodle named Coffee. He is the kind of man many conservatives despise. His hair is artfully mussed, and he wears a subtle rose shade on his eyelids, a natural lipstick and pale foundation. He makes $30,000 a month live-streaming himself applying makeup, an extraordinary sum for a young man without a degree.

At school, troubled by pimples, it bothered him that boys were not supposed to care about their appearance. He got himself some concealer and started asking girls how to apply makeup.

“I felt delighted because every day I would wear makeup, and I felt really fresh and really great,” he said. ”It put me in a good mood.”

His father was horrified.

“He would get angry, and he would question me. He said you should not do girlie things. You should not look like a girl,” Li said. “He’d say: ‘Stop wearing that. Stop it. You should go outside and play sports.’

“I’ll never change him.”

To avoid arguments, Li applies cosmetics with a light hand when he visits his parents, but he rejects the attacks in state media and by conservatives. He hates some of the posts on his blog, such as one telling him the only color men should wear is camouflage.

“The whole premise of those comments is to judge someone based on their appearance,” he says. “But in modern society, you can’t judge us for not looking masculine enough. How do you know we are not masculine enough?”

Other Chinese men are also increasingly using cosmetics and facial products. A taxi driver in the eastern city of Linhai faced internet notoriety when photos of him driving while wearing a moisturizing skin mask went viral last year. Chen Yiqun was suspended from work for three days and was the butt of social media jokes, but he also found fans online who applauded his facial regimen.

“What’s wrong with having a much more diverse image of men?” Li asked. “It’s common these days for men to care about their appearance.”

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Li has 1.5 million followers on the video-streaming site Kuaishou and 2 million on the social media site Weibo, mostly girls and women, from 12 to 30.

Boys and trainers of the Real Man Training Club run through a Beijing Park in December. Founder Tang Haiyan, center, in sunglasses, also runs with the group.

Boys and trainers of the Real Man Training Club run through a Beijing Park in December. Founder Tang Haiyan, center, in sunglasses, also runs with the group. (Yan Cong / For The Times)

He waded into the debate on Weibo after the controversial back-to-school TV program, with many sharing his views: “We should create a tolerant and diverse society. Men should focus on having an independent soul, a righteous heart and a strong sense of social responsibility.”

Researcher Zheng Jiawen from Nanjing University’s School of Journalism and Communications contends that “China’s real crisis of masculinity isn’t ‘sissy pants.’

“It’s a generation of men anxious and insecure about their declining social status and their desperation to cling to power,” Zheng wrote on the Shanghai-based website Sixth Tone.

“We must all learn to accept the fact that a delicate face does not mean a weak heart, slender shoulders do not reveal a fragile soul, and a ‘betrayal’ of outdated masculine stereotypes is not a betrayal of the nation.”

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World view divided by gender roles

Tang, who founded Real Man Training Club in 2012, has a world view that is divided into traditional gender roles: Boys are rough, boisterous and energetic. Girls are quiet, studious and groomed.

The former school teacher, whose class included troubled, low-achieving boys, said Chinese boys are betrayed by an education system dominated by risk-averse female teachers who reward girls’ “good” behavior and punish “bad” male behavior.

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Tang designed the club — which he says fluctuates between 2,000 and 3,000 members — to get boys to face tough physical challenges “in a manly way,” which he defines as being brave, responsible and committed.

He said he was inspired by his love of American football and a visit to California in 2006 to see how teams were trained. He came away with the idea that U.S. parents wanted their sons to play football “so they could become alpha males.” He decided the sport could transform Chinese boys.

‘We are real men’

Beijing’s watery sunshine does nothing to take the bite out of the morning air, but it’s time for the boys to strip off their shirts. They hand them to their mothers, giggling and bouncing about, arms huddled to their chests, as their parents whip out phones for more photos.

The boys form into two military-style lines and run for about 10 minutes around the park. They run stoically, in lockstep with their coaches, as the low morning sun paints their long shadows on the ground:

“One, two, three!

“Who’s the best?

“We are!

“Who are we?

“We are real men!”

Gaochao Zhang of the Times’ Beijing bureau contributed to this story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4250259&forum_id=2#38159447)



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Date: April 29th, 2019 11:05 AM
Author: bronze rough-skinned step-uncle's house alpha

lol @ nyuug

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Date: April 29th, 2019 11:17 AM
Author: At-the-ready Chad Point

wtf I love Chinese communists

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