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2019 BIG LAW BONUSES ANNOUNCED

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/biglaw-bonus-season-b...
Khaki indirect expression theatre
  11/07/19
Same as last year *breathes a sigh of relief*
Lavender Hairless House
  11/07/19
everything goes up in cost except lawyer salaries
big crackhouse
  11/07/19
*associate
Lavender Hairless House
  11/07/19
actually not when you factor in that the firms didn't do sum...
Khaki indirect expression theatre
  11/07/19
The sigh of relief is that they didn't go up
Lavender Hairless House
  11/07/19
Lol you should want the associates to stay happy so they sta...
Ultramarine kitchen
  11/08/19
I don't work at Cravath etc. We will match and they will be ...
Lavender Hairless House
  11/08/19
What is the current salary structure by year?
Indecent maize hell masturbator
  11/07/19
Class of 2018 — $190,000 Class of 2017 — $200,0...
Mischievous spot
  11/08/19
...
big crackhouse
  11/07/19
Lmfao
cocky market
  11/07/19
...
salmon offensive sound barrier address
  11/07/19
...
Dun Curious Center
  11/07/19
This guy has $400 in a Robinhood account that says you're wr...
soul-stirring lemon station regret
  11/07/19
...
Aphrodisiac pocket flask
  11/08/19
As Associate General Counsel at a Fortune 500 company, assoc...
Hyperactive corn cake
  11/07/19
But my 1.1 MM salary is okay, right?
Lavender Hairless House
  11/07/19
Yes
transparent high-end mediation mexican
  11/07/19
rofl @ these small-dicked inhouse faggots w chips on their s...
big crackhouse
  11/07/19
(MAF guy)
Khaki indirect expression theatre
  11/07/19
Lol at saying ppl cant "cut it" kowtowing to menta...
Cerise lodge
  11/08/19
Not breaking out sig pages is the behavior of a mentally ill...
Silver Public Bath
  11/08/19
Just a bad attorney lol, but same page.
Cerise lodge
  11/12/19
Why? It has no impact on rates. Even partner comp has no i...
Ultramarine kitchen
  11/08/19
This seems wrong
emerald chest-beating church
  11/08/19
Yes because rates went down in 2008-2011 when tons of associ...
Ultramarine kitchen
  11/08/19
...
big crackhouse
  11/08/19
...
Submissive Fanboi Haunted Graveyard
  11/08/19
Rates go up every year* *might cause firm to implode cata...
Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder
  11/08/19
...
Boyish umber mother step-uncle's house
  11/08/19
As Nutella already pointed out, partner rates have gone up e...
Submissive Fanboi Haunted Graveyard
  11/08/19
cr. but hey, it makes small-dicked in-house fags w chips on ...
big crackhouse
  11/08/19
Hours are going down.
Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder
  11/08/19
when you stopped paying for junior associates, you ensured t...
Mischievous spot
  11/08/19
LJL. What kind of dumbass is still wasting his life in bigla...
Disrespectful marketing idea
  11/07/19
...
Submissive Fanboi Haunted Graveyard
  11/07/19
Just cop $450k, 11-3, 4 day/week WFH, 90 IQ in-house
Hyperactive corn cake
  11/07/19
Yeah, but what's the use of the extra 25% (or whatever) you ...
Disrespectful marketing idea
  11/07/19
The idea is to quit at some point in the future and have cas...
Submissive Fanboi Haunted Graveyard
  11/07/19
PROTIP: You or your wife will spend it all.
Disrespectful marketing idea
  11/07/19
the "dumbass" move that is "pathetic and tort...
Mischievous spot
  11/08/19
Sup?
Lavender Hairless House
  11/07/19
The only people I know who are still in BigLaw were people w...
Disrespectful marketing idea
  11/07/19
What about us misanthropes?
Lavender Hairless House
  11/07/19
(insecure bro who is in denial)
Disrespectful marketing idea
  11/08/19
yeah you're definitely describing yourself there
Aphrodisiac pocket flask
  11/08/19
...
Cerebral Flesh Philosopher-king
  11/07/19
Damn. Cant believe I'm missing out on that sweet 100 Gs
emerald chest-beating church
  11/07/19
take this shit to TLS
Supple hissy fit roommate
  11/07/19
MILBANK TUNA HENTAI
Dun Curious Center
  11/07/19
The blooding season begins. Come, ye, sit around the fire an...
transparent high-end mediation mexican
  11/07/19
...
hot roast beef private investor
  11/08/19
"On the other hand, I think the angered associates have...
Ebony wonderful yarmulke
  11/08/19
Cravath or Simpson will come over the top and put milbank in...
alcoholic cruise ship
  11/08/19
rates are fucking absurd. 6th and 7th years are charging wh...
Mischievous spot
  11/08/19
my undiscounted rate is 755
Dun Curious Center
  11/08/19
Most of your hours are probably getting written off
Twinkling self-centered abode half-breed
  11/08/19
cr. also, very very few to practically no clients are simply...
Bronze plaza
  11/08/19
Rates increase 85% in the space of a decade. In-house cou...
alcoholic cruise ship
  11/08/19
Whistling past the graveyard.
Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder
  11/08/19
Let's hope not
Lavender Hairless House
  11/08/19
No movement
blue coiffed trailer park useless brakes
  11/11/19
not a biglawmo. what percentage of associates actually get t...
Bronze plaza
  11/08/19
Depends on how good of a firm. At good big law firms you get...
Twinkling self-centered abode half-breed
  11/08/19
as poster said, depends on firm, but at most BIGLAW firms (a...
Khaki indirect expression theatre
  11/08/19
if you don't hit your hours, do many places completely screw...
Vermilion newt candlestick maker
  11/08/19
no. you are either at a firm where you need hours, no excep...
Khaki indirect expression theatre
  11/11/19
tbf, most biglaw firms dont formally state hours requirement...
big crackhouse
  11/11/19
As a result, the market as a whole experienced healthy avera...
Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder
  11/08/19
this isn't news. The V100 is splitting in half. The top 50...
Khaki indirect expression theatre
  11/08/19
did you highlight this report, :D
Bronze plaza
  11/08/19
"compensation increases appear – at least at firs...
Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder
  11/11/19
Looking at these makes me depressed I'm not in big law as it...
dashing painfully honest love of her life gas station
  11/08/19
The bonus check is actually bigger than that because they un...
Vermilion newt candlestick maker
  11/08/19
CRAVATH
confused gay wizard
  11/11/19
FRAT WHITE
Dun Curious Center
  11/11/19
120
Twinkling self-centered abode half-breed
  11/11/19
Has the market been SHATTERED? Please give TOTAL COMP for NO...
Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder
  11/11/19
status quo from Cravath; which means all in comp is at best ...
transparent high-end mediation mexican
  11/11/19
ty
Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder
  11/12/19
Class of 2019 — $190,000 + $15,000 [prorated so really...
confused gay wizard
  11/12/19
Your salaries are off by a year. You can pretty much ignore ...
Doobsian Metal Party Of The First Part
  11/12/19
Salaries for July 1-June 30 or whenever Cravath's fiscal yea...
confused gay wizard
  11/12/19
Someone in Class of 2018 who started in October 2018 does no...
Doobsian Metal Party Of The First Part
  11/12/19
lol I fucked up because I'm thinking of billing year tyft
confused gay wizard
  11/12/19
Looks like 190 can barely be sustained if bonuses are tiny e...
Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder
  11/12/19
Getting paid 300k as a 28 year old monkey scribe comma chase...
copper parlor
  11/12/19
This is a tired debate at this point here but, as has been p...
transparent high-end mediation mexican
  11/12/19
Lol wtf, it’s the opposite. Biglaw associates more th...
Ultramarine kitchen
  11/12/19


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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:22 PM
Author: Khaki indirect expression theatre

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/biglaw-bonus-season-begins-with-announcement-from-milbank

not that it impacts anyone here in xo2019 right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087193)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:23 PM
Author: Lavender Hairless House

Same as last year

*breathes a sigh of relief*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087199)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 9:06 PM
Author: big crackhouse

everything goes up in cost except lawyer salaries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087408)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:22 PM
Author: Lavender Hairless House

*associate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39088066)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 9:57 PM
Author: Khaki indirect expression theatre

actually not when you factor in that the firms didn't do summer bonuses......

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087615)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:22 PM
Author: Lavender Hairless House

The sigh of relief is that they didn't go up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39088063)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 9:16 AM
Author: Ultramarine kitchen

Lol you should want the associates to stay happy so they stay and make your life easier. The shitty ones are getting pushed out anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39088868)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 2:10 PM
Author: Lavender Hairless House

I don't work at Cravath etc. We will match and they will be glad. 430k goes a long way in Texas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090122)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:33 PM
Author: Indecent maize hell masturbator

What is the current salary structure by year?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087236)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:48 PM
Author: Mischievous spot

Class of 2018 — $190,000

Class of 2017 — $200,000

Class of 2016 — $220,000

Class of 2015 — $255,000

Class of 2014 — $280,000

Class of 2013 — $305,000

Class of 2012 — $325,000

Class of 2011 — $340,000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089733)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:35 PM
Author: big crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087244)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:40 PM
Author: cocky market

Lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087275)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:43 PM
Author: salmon offensive sound barrier address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087300)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:51 PM
Author: Dun Curious Center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087343)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 9:06 PM
Author: soul-stirring lemon station regret

This guy has $400 in a Robinhood account that says you're wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087412)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 9:41 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39088950)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:38 PM
Author: Hyperactive corn cake

As Associate General Counsel at a Fortune 500 company, associate bonuses make me so angry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087260)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:48 PM
Author: Lavender Hairless House

But my 1.1 MM salary is okay, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087328)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 9:06 PM
Author: transparent high-end mediation mexican

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087413)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:55 PM
Author: big crackhouse

rofl @ these small-dicked inhouse faggots w chips on their shoulders bc they couldn't cut it in biglaw. it's a disgrace that anyone in biglaw has to take any of these fags to dinner ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087359)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 9:58 PM
Author: Khaki indirect expression theatre

(MAF guy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087621)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 9:39 AM
Author: Cerise lodge

Lol at saying ppl cant "cut it" kowtowing to mentally ill partners at 3am on a Saturday making sure there are two spaces after the periods in a doc and adding a page break before the sig page.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39088941)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:52 PM
Author: Silver Public Bath

Not breaking out sig pages is the behavior of a mentally ill person

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089751)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 2:38 PM
Author: Cerise lodge

Just a bad attorney lol, but same page.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39107526)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 9:11 AM
Author: Ultramarine kitchen

Why? It has no impact on rates. Even partner comp has no impact on rates. The rates just go up every year regardless.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39088864)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 9:23 AM
Author: emerald chest-beating church

This seems wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39088886)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 11:45 AM
Author: Ultramarine kitchen

Yes because rates went down in 2008-2011 when tons of associates got laid off and those who didn’t got no bonuses....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089496)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:37 PM
Author: big crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089686)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:49 PM
Author: Submissive Fanboi Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089736)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 4:09 PM
Author: Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder

Rates go up every year*

*might cause firm to implode catastrophically

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090584)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 4:06 PM
Author: Boyish umber mother step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090566)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:51 PM
Author: Submissive Fanboi Haunted Graveyard

As Nutella already pointed out, partner rates have gone up every single year regardless of associate salaries and/or bonuses.

Savings obtained from associate salaried remaining the same for 10 years were never passed onto your company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089750)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:53 PM
Author: big crackhouse

cr. but hey, it makes small-dicked in-house fags w chips on their shoulders bc they couldnt cut it in biglaw happy that biglaw associates get the shaft!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089757)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 4:10 PM
Author: Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder
Subject: Hours are going down.

Looking more closely at changing levels of productivity, Figure 8 shows average billable hours worked

per lawyer for all categories of lawyers across the market. While the number of worked hours has been

reasonably stable in recent years, it is important to note that, compared to average billable hours in the

pre-recession years (i.e., prior to 2008), there remains a significant difference. By way of illustration, in

2007, the billable hours worked averaged 134 per month. Through 2018, the average is now 122 per

month, or a difference of 144 hours per year from the 2007 level. To see the economic impact of this

reduction in productivity, one need only multiply this annual difference by the average worked rate in 2018

of $489 per hour, to see that the decreased productivity over the last decade cost firms some $70,416 per

lawyer per year in 2018. For a firm of 200 lawyers, that translates to a total cost of $14.1 million; for a firm of

400 to $28.2 million; and for a firm of 600 to $42.3 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090590)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:06 PM
Author: Mischievous spot

when you stopped paying for junior associates, you ensured that senior associates and junior partners had to do more work. actions have consequences.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089805)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:40 PM
Author: Disrespectful marketing idea

LJL. What kind of dumbass is still wasting his life in biglaw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087281)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:46 PM
Author: Submissive Fanboi Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087320)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:48 PM
Author: Hyperactive corn cake

Just cop $450k, 11-3, 4 day/week WFH, 90 IQ in-house

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087326)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:50 PM
Author: Disrespectful marketing idea

Yeah, but what's the use of the extra 25% (or whatever) you make when your life is literally pathetic and torturous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087337)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:55 PM
Author: Submissive Fanboi Haunted Graveyard

The idea is to quit at some point in the future and have cash saved up when I do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087360)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:58 PM
Author: Disrespectful marketing idea

PROTIP: You or your wife will spend it all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087367)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 6:37 PM
Author: Mischievous spot

the "dumbass" move that is "pathetic and torturous" is the mythical unicorn in house job or midlaw job

you're doing the same work for 1/3 the pay. and if you're in house, you're a cost center that will be first to go if the recession hits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39091214)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:48 PM
Author: Lavender Hairless House

Sup?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087330)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 9:09 PM
Author: Disrespectful marketing idea

The only people I know who are still in BigLaw were people who grew up proles and have major insecurity issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087423)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 11:24 PM
Author: Lavender Hairless House

What about us misanthropes?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39088072)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 6:46 PM
Author: Disrespectful marketing idea

(insecure bro who is in denial)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39091248)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 4:02 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac pocket flask

yeah you're definitely describing yourself there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090533)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:48 PM
Author: Cerebral Flesh Philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087332)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:47 PM
Author: emerald chest-beating church

Damn. Cant believe I'm missing out on that sweet 100 Gs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087323)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:48 PM
Author: Supple hissy fit roommate

take this shit to TLS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087329)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 8:51 PM
Author: Dun Curious Center

MILBANK TUNA HENTAI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087340)



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Date: November 7th, 2019 9:08 PM
Author: transparent high-end mediation mexican

The blooding season begins. Come, ye, sit around the fire and hear these stories of glam baubles bought and sold, the smiling money times filling our souls as we laugh and cheer and die. Glory to the Firm. Glory to the Law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39087420)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 8:40 AM
Author: hot roast beef private investor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39088827)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 12:50 PM
Author: Ebony wonderful yarmulke

"On the other hand, I think the angered associates have the right of the argument,” Mystal writes. “Why should the firms be hoarding profits in preparation for the recession, instead of sharing more of those profits with the employees, some of whom will be laid off next recession anyway?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089743)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:02 PM
Author: alcoholic cruise ship

Cravath or Simpson will come over the top and put milbank in its place. Profits at every big firm are up again for the nth year in a row. Billing rates are up again at every big firm for the nth year in a row. Hours are the same. And last year they paid summer bonuses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089786)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:05 PM
Author: Mischievous spot

rates are fucking absurd. 6th and 7th years are charging what only the top rainmakers used to charge barely a decade ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089801)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:20 PM
Author: Dun Curious Center

my undiscounted rate is 755

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089869)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:21 PM
Author: Twinkling self-centered abode half-breed

Most of your hours are probably getting written off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089875)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 1:24 PM
Author: Bronze plaza

cr. also, very very few to practically no clients are simply paying for attorney time at standard rates without any discount

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39089892)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 2:19 PM
Author: alcoholic cruise ship

Rates increase 85% in the space of a decade.

In-house counsel calls and gets 12% discount for new matter. Proudly reports the savings to the C suite.

Rates go up 15% next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090151)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 4:01 PM
Author: Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder

Whistling past the graveyard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090529)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 6:30 PM
Author: Lavender Hairless House

Let's hope not

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39091170)



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Date: November 11th, 2019 5:39 PM
Author: blue coiffed trailer park useless brakes

No movement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39103239)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 3:40 PM
Author: Bronze plaza

not a biglawmo. what percentage of associates actually get the bonus? is it strictly tied to hours or is there any discretionary component? obviously the big rainmaker can do whatever he wants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090432)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 3:57 PM
Author: Twinkling self-centered abode half-breed

Depends on how good of a firm. At good big law firms you get full bonus no questions asked, no hours minimum. At Reed Smith it's a different story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090508)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 4:39 PM
Author: Khaki indirect expression theatre

as poster said, depends on firm, but at most BIGLAW firms (at least V50 and higher) you will get a bonus as long as you hit your hours and even sometimes if you don't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090730)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:41 PM
Author: Vermilion newt candlestick maker

if you don't hit your hours, do many places completely screw you, or do they at least pro-rate (ok, your 100 hours short, so let's take 20% off the bonus you would otherwise get)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39092082)



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Date: November 11th, 2019 11:04 PM
Author: Khaki indirect expression theatre

no. you are either at a firm where you need hours, no exceptions or at one that doesn't care and it's subjective but not at all based on hours and not prorated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39104899)



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Date: November 11th, 2019 5:26 PM
Author: big crackhouse

tbf, most biglaw firms dont formally state hours requirements despite what is well understood/expected. they have more CYA that way, plus hours requirements cause people not to go over

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39103180)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 4:04 PM
Author: Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder

As a result, the market as a whole experienced healthy average revenue growth of 5.5 percent for the year.

On the negative side, while the overall results described above were positive, it must be noted that they were

driven significantly by Am Law 100 firms (and, indeed, within that grouping, by Am Law 50 firms), as well as by

some niche firms in the Midsize group. Performance by other firms – including particularly firms in the Am Law

Second 100 and some firms in the Am Law 100 and Midsize groups – were well below the market averages.

This continues the strong trend toward market segmentation that we saw in 2017 and raises the interesting

question of why different parts of the market are performing in strikingly different ways.

Apart from segmentation, there were other financial indicators that were somewhat surprising given the

relative stagnation in the market over the past several years. One of the most dramatic was a second round

of associate compensation increases that drove associate salaries and bonuses to record levels and that will

have a serious impact on the bottom lines of many firms in the coming year. Considering that productivity has

been essentially flat to declining in almost every year since the Great Recession, such compensation increases

appear – at least at first blush – to be counterintuitive.

A similar observation could be made about the aggressive increase in worked rates seen in 2018. Given the

tepid growth in demand for law firm services, the increased willingness of clients to move business to lower

cost firms or alternative service providers, and the continuing client push back on rate increases (as reflected

in declining realization rates), it is counterintuitive that firms would propose aggressive rate increases or that

clients would accept them. But that appears to be what happened.

http://www.managingpartnerforum.org/tasks/sites/mpf/assets/image/MPF%20FEATURED%20WHITE%20PAPER%20-%202019%20State%20of%20Legal%20Market%20-%20GeorgetownLaw-ThomsonReuters%20-%202-8-19.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090547)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 4:40 PM
Author: Khaki indirect expression theatre

this isn't news. The V100 is splitting in half. The top 50 or 60 or so are far more profitable than the rest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39090734)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 6:44 PM
Author: Bronze plaza

did you highlight this report, :D

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39091240)



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Date: November 11th, 2019 7:21 PM
Author: Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder

"compensation increases appear – at least at first blush – to be counterintuitive."

LOL @ GC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39103644)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 8:20 PM
Author: dashing painfully honest love of her life gas station

Looking at these makes me depressed I'm not in big law as it would be sick as hell to get a check for $100,000.

Then I remember that after taxes, it'd be like $50,000, which wouldn't even cover preschool for 2 of my kids.

Conversely, in flyover, my shitty in-house bonus would pay for preschool for 12 kids...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39091587)



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Date: November 8th, 2019 10:40 PM
Author: Vermilion newt candlestick maker

The bonus check is actually bigger than that because they under-withhold, so instead you're getting like $70 and making huge estimated tax payments every quarter for the next year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39092080)



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Date: November 11th, 2019 5:22 PM
Author: confused gay wizard
Subject: CRAVATH

CRAVATH

Class of 2019 — $15,000

Class of 2018 — $15,000

Class of 2017 — $25,000

Class of 2016 — $50,000

Class of 2015 — $65,000

Class of 2014 — $80,000

Class of 2013 — $90,000

Class of 2012 — $100,000

Class of 2011 — $100,000

https://www.law.com/2019/11/11/cravath-matches-associate-bonuses-after-early-announcement-from-milbank/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39103166)



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Date: November 11th, 2019 5:28 PM
Author: Dun Curious Center

FRAT WHITE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39103191)



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Date: November 11th, 2019 7:20 PM
Author: Twinkling self-centered abode half-breed

120

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39103637)



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Date: November 11th, 2019 7:22 PM
Author: Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder

Has the market been SHATTERED? Please give TOTAL COMP for NOOBS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39103650)



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Date: November 11th, 2019 9:56 PM
Author: transparent high-end mediation mexican

status quo from Cravath; which means all in comp is at best even with and at worst lower this year vs last for many since last year also had summer bonuses along with the scale increase mid-year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39104537)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 2:46 AM
Author: Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39105476)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 2:29 PM
Author: confused gay wizard

Class of 2019 — $190,000 + $15,000 [prorated so really like $3,000] = $205,000

Class of 2018 — $190,000 + $15,000 = $205,000

Class of 2017 — $200,000 + $25,000 = $245,000

Class of 2016 — $220,000 + $50,000 = $270,000

Class of 2015 — $255,000 + $65,000 = $315,000

Class of 2014 — $280,000 + $80,000 = $360,000

Class of 2013 — $305,000 + $90,000 = $395,000

Class of 2012 — $325,000 + $100,000 = $425,000

Class of 2011 — $340,000 + $100,000 = $440,000

Nice thing about the recession was a correction to spread out the bonuses, they used to be so compressed, but firms recognize that value of 4th years is so much greater and salaries start to widen from there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39107469)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 2:32 PM
Author: Doobsian Metal Party Of The First Part

Your salaries are off by a year. You can pretty much ignore Class of 2019, they work for like 3 months of the year only. Start with $190k for Class of 2018.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39107483)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 2:33 PM
Author: confused gay wizard

Salaries for July 1-June 30 or whenever Cravath's fiscal year starts for raises idk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39107492)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 2:41 PM
Author: Doobsian Metal Party Of The First Part

Someone in Class of 2018 who started in October 2018 does not start getting a $200k salary on January 1, 2019. Are you a paralegal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39107539)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 2:43 PM
Author: confused gay wizard

lol I fucked up because I'm thinking of billing year tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39107550)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 2:34 PM
Author: Aromatic sanctuary mental disorder

Looks like 190 can barely be sustained if bonuses are tiny even with 130 straight months of job growth jfc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39107498)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 2:39 PM
Author: copper parlor

Getting paid 300k as a 28 year old monkey scribe comma chaser is pretty absurd. I felt weird about it when it was me and I was making 200k. Definitely earn my 300k inhouse way more honestly (though I also feel overpaid here), and the hours are better and so are the people and the work is more interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39107533)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 3:16 PM
Author: transparent high-end mediation mexican

This is a tired debate at this point here but, as has been pointed out time and again, I doubt your 300k in-house comes with the routine expectation that you'll be e-mailed at 2 a.m. on a Saturday or that, when that e-mail comes, you'll be responsive to it either at that time or, worst case, by early Saturday morning and poised to work throughout the weekend in order to deliver the expected work product by COB Sunday. Young attorneys in biglaw are being paid for availability, time, and work ethic in relationship to high dollar value matters and rapid, sometimes capricious demands and, in that sense, they are earning their pay honestly, even if some of their work does involve "chasing commas." As you note, one of the benefits of moving in-house is to rid yourself of that environment.

Whether there should be a macro shift to generally lower pay scales and/or a different work culture across the industry is a separate topic and one that won't be raised, if ever, until there's a secular change in demand for high-end legal services.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39107688)



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Date: November 12th, 2019 4:11 PM
Author: Ultramarine kitchen

Lol wtf, it’s the opposite. Biglaw associates more than earn their pay.

Lol at all you penny pinching in house lawyers suddenly saying biglaw associates are overpaid and supposedly hurting your company’s bottom line. You know what hurts your company’s bottom line? Paying you $300k to do in house work that is 90% made up busywork. The other 10% of “sophisticated” work is outsourced to biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4378134&forum_id=2#39107852)