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Reminder: the United States has nothing to be ashamed of

This is the freest and most just nation on Earth. Nowhere i...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
Agree. But see, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPzClXk7G...
arousing chestnut brunch azn
  07/02/20
aaron spelling's precense is insufferable
Mustard Garrison Keepsake Machete
  07/03/20
Our “women” are obese and disgusting We shoul...
Bateful blue corner internal respiration
  07/05/20
Kinda glosses over the late 19th, early 20th century empire/...
odious meetinghouse friendly grandma
  07/07/20
Lena Dunham?
rose lodge codepig
  07/07/20
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Laughsome public bath ladyboy
  07/02/20
lol There’s nothing left dude. It’s all gone.
Drunken chocolate state circlehead
  07/02/20
There's plenty left.
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
Can't do it brother. We're done here.
Tripping Plum Hunting Ground
  07/02/20
The US has spread Zionist tyranny throughout the planet. We ...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
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Metal background story
  07/02/20
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aphrodisiac self-absorbed locus chad
  07/02/20
“ as we have generally not fought wars of conquest and...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
Sorry about CHAZ, don't worry loser there will be more feet ...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
This is pathetic. The US military is a zionist mercenary for...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
I hate libs, and you are not a libs so I don't hate you. Ho...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
No need to feel sorry for me. I’m someone who can hand...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
"The US military is a zionist mercenary force." ...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
I guess a more precise description would be “slave ar...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
I agree with your post, but I also think that we're seeing t...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
"I also think that we're seeing the end of US Neocon fo...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
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embarrassed to the bone voyeur
  07/02/20
Delusional But it also has nothing to do with how we live o...
Bateful blue corner internal respiration
  07/02/20
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beady-eyed weed whacker
  07/02/20
1. why so defensive? celebrate america because it is OURS, n...
aromatic stock car
  07/02/20
1. Considering recent events, it's not defensive, it's just...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
2. The entire US is built on conquered land and manifest des...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
another good poast
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
ty
excitant hell
  07/02/20
Free your mind from mental slavery. The US fought wars to e...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
I would argue that you're far more in a "mental slavery...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
Mental Slavery is giving into the popular myth of the US hav...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
You may be misunderstanding me. I'm not saying the "US...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
Dude Bush killed half a million people in the middle east fo...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
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embarrassed to the bone voyeur
  07/02/20
we should be proud that we only goaded japan into wwii and d...
aromatic stock car
  07/02/20
Pretexts are just that. IRL, all of these wars were about e...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
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embarrassed to the bone voyeur
  07/02/20
True and this has been true since the dawn of man. Its not t...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
Exactly. But remember the endgame here. Libs just want to ...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
Yes, we should be proud that, after being attacked, we defea...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
To be fair, they attacked us because we were backing their e...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
He has a surprisingly simplistic view of the world if he rea...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
The US school system used to teach this nonsense. Of course...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
lol we baited them into it and then nuked their cities when ...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
idk if I feel particularly bad for the Japanese either. The...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
There was a quote from Tojo or someone in japanese high comm...
Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich
  07/03/20
Yep. Also, in general, I will say that WW2 has to be the cl...
excitant hell
  07/03/20
lol Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:51 PM Author: ESL TM..,..;;.(...
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/03/20
I know, super controversial shit right here.
excitant hell
  07/03/20
Also, my grandparents (3 out of 4, my grandma was a Captain)...
excitant hell
  07/03/20
Not sure what's the dispute here - if you're implying yeah w...
Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich
  07/03/20
tcr. Most baffling here is that saving my post implies that...
excitant hell
  07/03/20
cr the US and Soviet Union were fighting for liberty and hum...
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/03/20
Of course they weren't, but they were fighting for survival....
excitant hell
  07/03/20
How does anything the japs did in China excuse the behavior ...
Hairraiser legend
  07/03/20
It explains why you shouldn't feel bad about the Japanese ge...
excitant hell
  07/03/20
lol at this. great "message" we sent to the USSR....
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/03/20
Yes, but the USSR didn't keep going into Japan, the ME or W....
excitant hell
  07/03/20
When the war was basically over? how was it basically over? ...
Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich
  07/03/20
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excitant hell
  07/03/20
Re: Vietnam, why is it that people think the cold war was a ...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
There are many ways to look at the Cold War and I don't thin...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
B/c Vietnam is seen and discussed almost exclusively through...
Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich
  07/03/20
What's wrong with Euro-style colonization? It worked well f...
mahogany scourge upon the earth
  07/02/20
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salmon big gunner jew
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excitant hell
  07/02/20
Repeatedly breaking treaties with the Native Americans was p...
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/05/20
Ours? It’s for the Jews, lol
Bateful blue corner internal respiration
  07/02/20
Mfcr.
salmon big gunner jew
  07/02/20
"This is the freest and most just nation on Earth. Nowh...
Primrose hideous piazza
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embarrassed to the bone voyeur
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excitant hell
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trip olive tattoo
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Carmine Anal Cruise Ship Boistinker
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name 1
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
Norway. Denmark. The Netherlands. Switzerland. Austria. ...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
try to immigrate there and open a profitable small business....
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
most born here couldn’t even afford to open a business
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
tcr
excitant hell
  07/02/20
what does this have to do with citizens of those countries l...
Dashing Green Dysfunction Bawdyhouse
  07/02/20
cr. what the fuck is this bullshit about "opening a sma...
Thriller rusted stag film hairy legs
  07/02/20
This is literally the only thing true believer conservatives...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
I mean, if that was his argument then he should have said th...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
that's why i didnt include the "small business" pa...
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/02/20
This is a totally different goalpost. You wrote "Nowhe...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
Any countries that are not 95% white?
Concupiscible Multi-billionaire
  07/03/20
Solid challenge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coun...
excitant hell
  07/03/20
Ok so basically only white countries and tiny 1-offs that wo...
Concupiscible Multi-billionaire
  07/03/20
Huh? How does the fact that they're overwhelmingly white co...
excitant hell
  07/05/20
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Buck-toothed Shrine
  07/05/20
Among the nations who built empires, we are by far the most ...
bistre area
  07/02/20
You think we didn’t become or act like an empire ? ...
rose lodge codepig
  07/02/20
We were never a “real” empire. Although the the ...
Mildly Autistic Talented Field
  07/02/20
the Spanish-American war also
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/02/20
"restraint" *builds 22,000 nuclear warheads* ...
rose lodge codepig
  07/02/20
22,000 nukes; used 2
Concupiscible Multi-billionaire
  07/03/20
By that measure the USSR was amazing because while it built ...
excitant hell
  07/03/20
Because we didn't officially have a monarch or what?
excitant hell
  07/02/20
lol, we still have troops occupying Germany and Japan even n...
mahogany scourge upon the earth
  07/02/20
Bases in a foreign country does not make it a colony. Ge...
nudist sadistic striped hyena property
  07/02/20
LOL
rose lodge codepig
  07/02/20
No they wouldn’t
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
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Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich
  07/03/20
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excitant hell
  07/03/20
lol
sexy ruby philosopher-king point
  07/02/20
"The military of the United States is deployed in more ...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
?
nudist sadistic striped hyena property
  07/02/20
You don't see how this is imperial behavior?
excitant hell
  07/02/20
If it's imperial behavior, making the US an empire, then tha...
nudist sadistic striped hyena property
  07/02/20
"Of it's imperial behavior, making the US an empire, th...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
No one would call them empires today because they aren't emp...
nudist sadistic striped hyena property
  07/02/20
They're not empires because they have no real overseas holdi...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
Yeah I think this is right - it has more to do with the timi...
Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich
  07/03/20
And by the way, other Euro nations didn't get out of the col...
excitant hell
  07/03/20
Exactly. My fiancee is from a family that's pretty well c...
Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich
  07/03/20
...
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/02/20
Empires have colonies. We have none.
nudist sadistic striped hyena property
  07/02/20
https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
Why do you hate Liberia? What did Liberia ever do to you?
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
lol, I have no hatred of Liberia or the Philippines.
excitant hell
  07/02/20
None of these are colonies that are exploited by an empire. ...
nudist sadistic striped hyena property
  07/02/20
Until WW2 they were LITERALLY a colony.
excitant hell
  07/02/20
If you look at actual data we are one of the least prejudice...
Mildly Autistic Talented Field
  07/02/20
OP is just a hysterical baby that SC lost some statues of pe...
ebony frozen pit pervert
  07/02/20
Why, why would you have a problem with Stephen Garcia? HE B...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/02/20
BTFO
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/02/20
(NOT Robert E. Lee, Nathan Bedford Forrest, Jeff Davis, Ston...
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/02/20
"Our history is something to be proud of, as we have ge...
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/02/20
The US is the greatest country on earth but a handful of oth...
Mildly Autistic Talented Field
  07/02/20
i think the OP is retarded, but i agree with this
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/02/20
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Hot confused gaping
  07/02/20
Why are success stories like that not possible in Norway, De...
Bat shit crazy passionate fanboi corn cake
  07/02/20
USA has a more winner-take-all mentality that said, the I...
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/02/20
Not possible is too strong of wording - but clearly there ar...
Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich
  07/03/20
1. As many in this thread have already pointed out, there ar...
fiercely-loyal parlour
  07/02/20
...
Wonderful wild stage milk
  07/03/20
yeah somewhere between this and bernie, basically.
Diverse Home
  07/03/20
of course not the only people saying this are insane libs,...
idiotic fragrant space
  07/02/20
Comments pointing out that poor people in monoethnic nordic ...
nudist sadistic striped hyena property
  07/02/20
you seem dumb
Primrose hideous piazza
  07/02/20
lol
idiotic fragrant space
  07/02/20
This explains the "why" but doesn't deny the "...
excitant hell
  07/02/20
I love that for America to be “best” the standar...
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
We’re fat af and don’t give a shit. People are ...
Bateful blue corner internal respiration
  07/02/20
Happy July 4th weekend everybody
Hairraiser legend
  07/02/20
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Chest-beating lemon cuck faggotry
  07/02/20
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excitant hell
  07/02/20
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Bateful blue corner internal respiration
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Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich
  07/03/20
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azure boyish prole
  07/03/20
ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like
Appetizing Flickering Patrolman
  07/02/20
on the contrary. first-world countries feel guilty about the...
Thriller rusted stag film hairy legs
  07/03/20
lollercausting HARD
Appetizing Flickering Patrolman
  07/05/20
Libs would prefer Iran or China now flame They’re ...
beady-eyed weed whacker
  07/02/20
rhodesia, actually
Appetizing Flickering Patrolman
  07/02/20
damn, OP has become very mentally ill.
sexy ruby philosopher-king point
  07/02/20
plato's cavedwellers were perfectly sane bro
Appetizing Flickering Patrolman
  07/02/20
...
Hairraiser legend
  07/03/20
what a gay amount of hubris on display. america is the gr...
Gaped lavender tank
  07/02/20
Muscadine doing God's work here.
Comical indirect expression ratface
  07/02/20
What about stuff like Wounded Knee (1890) where hundreds of ...
Overrated market
  07/03/20
bro america materialized out of thin air. the red man never ...
Appetizing Flickering Patrolman
  07/03/20
*topples this thread onto a black protester*
titillating set mood
  07/03/20
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Bateful blue corner internal respiration
  07/03/20
I would more say that no foreigners are worth apologizing to...
Claret disturbing regret mediation
  07/03/20
Agree. Though I feel pretty bad for Libyans right now. We ...
excitant hell
  07/03/20
Op is not literally true but we certainly are the most moral...
Concupiscible Multi-billionaire
  07/03/20
That's debatable. But we definitely aren't anywhere near th...
excitant hell
  07/03/20
If you count Hollywood we are the worst
Hairraiser legend
  07/03/20
Rome was more moral than the US
Hairraiser legend
  07/03/20
The only country on earth where CSLG can make his money the ...
Blathering Wine Halford
  07/05/20
...
Bateful blue corner internal respiration
  07/05/20
"Nowhere in the world are the poor or mal-adapted treat...
medicated mexican
  07/05/20
I wrote this title to specifically trigger American hating l...
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/07/20
We’re fat and nigger and kike
Bateful blue corner internal respiration
  07/07/20
Impressive reply
twinkling casino son of senegal
  07/07/20
https://twitter.com/cliff_sims/status/1280345500756172800?s=...
Emerald bearded trust fund theater stage
  07/07/20


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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:43 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

This is the freest and most just nation on Earth. Nowhere in the world are the poor or mal-adapted treated better and nowhere on Earth do normal people have more opportunity to live a happy life. Nowhere on Earth can small business thrive like it does here.

Our history is something to be proud of, as we have generally not fought wars of conquest and we never became an Empire, we fought wars to either protect ourselves or our ideals.

Feel pride when you see that flag this weekend, this is the greatest country on Earth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533807)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:44 PM
Author: arousing chestnut brunch azn

Agree.

But see, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPzClXk7GWw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535722)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 2:14 AM
Author: Mustard Garrison Keepsake Machete

aaron spelling's precense is insufferable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40539619)



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Date: July 5th, 2020 4:29 PM
Author: Bateful blue corner internal respiration

Our “women” are obese and disgusting

We should be atleast ashamed, if not suicidal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40551159)



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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:59 AM
Author: odious meetinghouse friendly grandma

Kinda glosses over the late 19th, early 20th century empire/military excursions, but I agree in general.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40561157)



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Date: July 7th, 2020 2:22 PM
Author: rose lodge codepig

Lena Dunham?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40562175)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:44 AM
Author: Laughsome public bath ladyboy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533812)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:44 AM
Author: Drunken chocolate state circlehead

lol

There’s nothing left dude. It’s all gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533814)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:51 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

There's plenty left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533845)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:44 AM
Author: Tripping Plum Hunting Ground

Can't do it brother. We're done here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533817)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:45 AM
Author: Hairraiser legend

The US has spread Zionist tyranny throughout the planet. We have A LOT to be ashamed of. We basically destroyed the world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533818)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:08 PM
Author: Metal background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535934)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:02 PM
Author: aphrodisiac self-absorbed locus chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40537933)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:45 AM
Author: Hairraiser legend

“ as we have generally not fought wars of conquest and we never became an Empire, we fought wars to either protect ourselves or our ideals.”

This is just delusional sorry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533821)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:46 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

Sorry about CHAZ, don't worry loser there will be more feet to wash

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533827)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:48 AM
Author: Hairraiser legend

This is pathetic. The US military is a zionist mercenary force. Not worth defending you just look foolish

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533832)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:51 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

I hate libs, and you are not a libs so I don't hate you. However, I feel bad for you that you have been sucked into these beliefs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533844)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:54 AM
Author: Hairraiser legend

No need to feel sorry for me. I’m someone who can handle the truth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533855)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:19 AM
Author: excitant hell

"The US military is a zionist mercenary force."

I disagree entirely. Mercenaries get paid, but we end up footing the bill for our stupid foreign adventures. We're just corrupt and ruled by special interests.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533972)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:32 AM
Author: Hairraiser legend

I guess a more precise description would be “slave army”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534042)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:34 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

I agree with your post, but I also think that we're seeing the end of US Neocon foreign policy, and there is nothing to say that the US ceasing to be World Police is going to usher in an era of world peace. There is reason to believe the opposite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534055)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:58 AM
Author: excitant hell

"I also think that we're seeing the end of US Neocon foreign policy"

Not yet. Trump was against it which is why we're seeing a break from it. If HRC was POTUS we would have had plenty of wars. But for it to truly end the US is going to need a disaster. But I think that is actually coming.

"there is nothing to say that the US ceasing to be World Police is going to usher in an era of world peace"

Of course not. I don't think anyone is claiming this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534220)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:32 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534041)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:26 PM
Author: Bateful blue corner internal respiration

Delusional

But it also has nothing to do with how we live our own lives as Americans. We are obese and barely human, consuming smut media or actual porn with Cheetos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536081)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:10 PM
Author: beady-eyed weed whacker



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:55 AM
Author: aromatic stock car

1. why so defensive? celebrate america because it is OURS, not because it is 'great'. i don't give a shit if america is 'raciss'

2. "we have generally not fought wars of conquest and we never became an Empire, we fought wars to either protect ourselves or our ideals."

this is literally 2nd-grade level naive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533866)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:00 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

1. Considering recent events, it's not defensive, it's just saying what needs to be said.

2. Oh yea? Link to the US colonizing the world like prominent European countries did. Or link to the US engaging in Napoleonic conquests of other nations, or impressing other country's citizens into service, etc. etc. etc. In context to other nations we have a lot to be proud of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533891)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:12 AM
Author: excitant hell

2. The entire US is built on conquered land and manifest destiny was the name of the game for many generations of early Americans. Which is fine, that's all major powers to some degree. But the US also overthrows unfriendly governments and replaces them with more manageable governments all the time. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc., while using covert ops to try to overthrow govs in Venezuela and Iran. Meanwhile we create and support "friendly" governments like Israel. Pretending that the US isn't one of the biggest players of this game is silly. The fact that the US didn't play the African colonies game has more to do with the fact that the US became a power of that extent in the 20th century, by which point that game was over. The US actually tried to get into that game in the Philippines before saying fuck it.

I agree with the previous poster. We love the US because it is ours and provides us with a good QOL and freedom, not because it is somehow the most moral. It isn't but I don't really care and you shouldn't either. But if it stops being free and ours and providing us with a good QOL then it will be time to leave.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533931)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:13 AM
Author: Hairraiser legend

another good poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533939)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:17 AM
Author: excitant hell

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533957)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:30 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

Free your mind from mental slavery. The US fought wars to exist, including wars to establish territorial boundaries. This is a pretext to having a nation. All nations, at some point, had to establish themselves. When I say "as a nation we should be proud," that means that we are "a nation."

I don't love Neocon foreign policy but the time since WWII has been the most peaceful time western nations have ever seen in recorded history and it was US leadership that ushered, and preserved, this peace.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534031)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:36 AM
Author: excitant hell

I would argue that you're far more in a "mental slavery" mindset than I am. I see things for what they are instead of trying to shoehorn everything into "good guys" and "bad guys."

The US didn't merely "fight wars to exist." The US fought wars for expansion, for power, for influence, for resources, etc. Same as all the other great powers. Yes, that's how you become a great power but there's no need to pretend that the US was somehow different here just because we never got into African colonialism (except for Liberia, now that I think about it).

"I don't love Neocon foreign policy but the time since WWII has been the most peaceful time western nations have ever seen in recorded history and it was US leadership that ushered, and preserved, this peace."

Yeah, not sure that is really "US leadership" so much as MAD created by all the major powers having nuclear weapons + widely available birth control leading to people having only 1-2 kids in the US, the USSR, China and Europe. But for that, I don't think there's any doubt we would have had WW3 between the Communist powers and the West.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534071)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:39 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

Mental Slavery is giving into the popular myth of the US having a shameful history. It's drilled into your head by pop culture. Our history is amazing if you look at it and leftist arguments re: how horrible the US is almost always fall apart upon really looking at the facts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534091)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:50 AM
Author: excitant hell

You may be misunderstanding me. I'm not saying the "US has a shameful history." I'm saying the very mindset of "perfect history" vs. "shameful history" is silly mental slavery. You don't have to shoehorn history into "good" and "bad" boxes. History is history. Every great power has a history of conquest, colonies, etc. Great moments and not so great moments. Give me a country and I'll happily tell you the bad things they did at some point to someone.

What makes a country worthwhile isn't that they have a perfect history, but the freedoms and QOL they afford their citizens and the sense of belonging that those citizens feel to that nation-state. This is where the US is failing (no one really feels American anymore, freedoms are falling away, future generations are probably going to live worse than prior ones, etc.). Not because of an imperfect history, as though a perfect history exists anywhere. Ask any Russian if they think Russia has a "perfect" history and they'll laugh. It doesn't mean they don't love their country or their people. Replace Russia with China or Poland or Israel or whatever and it'll be the same story. I deliberately excluded western countries because this particular disease is afflicting Western Civ. But your entire game here actually plays into the lib mindset.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534164)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:36 AM
Author: Hairraiser legend

Dude Bush killed half a million people in the middle east for no reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534076)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:33 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534045)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:13 AM
Author: aromatic stock car

we should be proud that we only goaded japan into wwii and didn't actually invade them?

our pretext for vietnam was the COMMIES. brit pretext for colonizing was racial inferiority. i'd say they had the better argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533941)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:16 AM
Author: excitant hell

Pretexts are just that. IRL, all of these wars were about expansion of power and influence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40533952)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:34 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534049)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:38 AM
Author: Hairraiser legend

True and this has been true since the dawn of man. Its not that the US is uniquely bad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534087)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:53 AM
Author: excitant hell

Exactly. But remember the endgame here. Libs just want to be able to say all the founding fathers were racists, therefore the US constitution is racist, therefore we can get rid of it. There's no reason to preserve any American traditions, the constitution or anything American because it is all bad. That's the point they're driving towards. The response to that isn't "but our history is actually really good!" It is "fuck you lib, this is ours and you can't have it."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534188)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:31 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

Yes, we should be proud that, after being attacked, we defeated the Empire of Japan. Very proud.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534037)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:41 AM
Author: excitant hell

To be fair, they attacked us because we were backing their enemies in China. It wouldn't actually be accurate to say it was unprovoked.

This isn't to say the US did the wrong thing there and that we shouldn't be proud of defeating what was at the time a truly great power. But you're trying to make everything black and white, with the US this perfect snowflake on the side of good against a horde of evil that without the US would simply create a hellscape Mad Max world. But that's just propaganda. IRL, the US primarily exists to benefit Americans and American elites. Just like all nations do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534108)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:35 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend

He has a surprisingly simplistic view of the world if he really believes this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535236)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:14 PM
Author: excitant hell

The US school system used to teach this nonsense. Of course, now they teach the opposite which is also nonsense ("the US was evil and horrible! Just like all of western civ!"). The problem with our society is that we no longer teach people how to think and instead teach people what to think in order to advance the goals of one group of elites or another.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535980)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:34 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend

lol we baited them into it and then nuked their cities when the war was already basically over. Not interested in guilt tripping, but that was not our best day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535227)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:16 PM
Author: excitant hell

idk if I feel particularly bad for the Japanese either. They invaded China as part of their expansionist policies (they already conquered Korea and a significant part of Manchuria), the US realized that was not a great situation so we backed the Chinese, the Japanese attacked us because they figured we were pussies and wouldn't really fight them and they lost that bet. We nuked them to force a surrender with minimal costs to us and also to send a warning to the USSR, which was already grabbing Japanese territories and obviously thinking about grabbing more in Europe and maybe the ME. Overall, the US came out looking good but it was also a case of the US doing what was in its best interests throughout.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536009)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:43 PM
Author: Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich

There was a quote from Tojo or someone in japanese high command when they were debating Pearl Harbor - that's on record saying something like: the u.s. won't do anything if we bomb pearl harbor, any nation that just sits there while its closest ally (britain) burns doesn't have the will to fight.....

Also people forget what pieces of shit the Japanese were during this time period - the war they waged was overwhelmingly against civilians. Current numbers are something like ~15 million chinese they genocided.....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542658)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:51 PM
Author: excitant hell

Yep. Also, in general, I will say that WW2 has to be the clearest "good guys vs bad guys" war you can possibly imagine. Germany and Japan were comic book villain levels of evil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542699)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:53 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

lol

Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:51 PM

Author: ESL TM..,..;;.(🦈)

Yep. Also, in general, I will say that WW2 has to be the clearest "good guys vs bad guys" war you can possibly imagine. Germany and Japan were comic book villain levels of evil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=#)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542708)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:59 PM
Author: excitant hell

I know, super controversial shit right here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542750)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:05 PM
Author: excitant hell

Also, my grandparents (3 out of 4, my grandma was a Captain) LITERALLY fought against both of these countries in the Red Army. Shocking, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542776)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:08 PM
Author: Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich

Not sure what's the dispute here - if you're implying yeah we just cleared europe of hitler only to hand it over to stalin, then fine exclude the soviet union

But in terms of moral culpability, ww2 stands out in ways that are very unique in this regard to other major wars (ww2's contemporaries). Eg the losing side killed the most people, something like ~80% of deaths, overwhelmingly civilians. The u.s., britain, and soviet union were allies in that they were all attacked by german / japanese aggression. (again soviets were collaborators so they gunk stuff up). The ruthless efficiency of the concentration camps and the behavior of the japanese army (mass genocide, sexual enslavement etc) was a stark contrast to the behavior of the western democracies...

If you're just throwing the soviet union like a hot potato on the ally side and saying "lol none of that applies" you're being disingenuous - any halfway sober analysis of the war will produce far more clear moral boundaries than in most wars, which was all his point was

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542783)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:12 PM
Author: excitant hell

tcr. Most baffling here is that saving my post implies that what, I can't claim to be pro-Hitler or pro-Empire of Japan, as though I ever was or would be? It just seems like a very odd place to "catch me."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542800)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:55 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

cr the US and Soviet Union were fighting for liberty and human rights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542724)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:59 PM
Author: excitant hell

Of course they weren't, but they were fighting for survival. There was no staying out of the war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542748)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:03 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend

How does anything the japs did in China excuse the behavior of the US?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544169)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:06 PM
Author: excitant hell

It explains why you shouldn't feel bad about the Japanese getting pwn3d.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544189)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:54 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

lol at this. great "message" we sent to the USSR....they enslaved half of Europe in WWII while that cuck FDR let himself get bugged by the KGB at the Yalta Conference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542716)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:13 PM
Author: excitant hell

Yes, but the USSR didn't keep going into Japan, the ME or W. Europe which was a real concern.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542807)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:29 PM
Author: Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich

When the war was basically over? how was it basically over? Effectively over is not the same thing as close to surrendering.... And the various methods to bring that about were not all equally efficient.

They were finding dudes in the jungles into the 60s and 70s still fighting WW2 for the emperor.... Hiroo Onoda being the most famous case in '72 I believe. The point being - even after the first two nukes there was internal division / very powerful factions opposing the Emperor that didn't want to surrender - Tojo himself for starters.

What counterfactual scenarios are you imagining in place of delivering the two atomic bombs?

Curtis LeMay was going to park almost our entire fleet of B-29s off the Marianas and run round the clock fire bombings of Japan.

Also lest we forget - Japan was genociding ~20,000 Chinese, Laotian, Vietnamese, etc per week at that point. The numbers keep getting revised upwards every decade or so but latest is something like 15 million civilians killed by Japan.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542601)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:57 PM
Author: excitant hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542741)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:36 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

Re: Vietnam, why is it that people think the cold war was a myth? It was messy but we won (I think, because looking at the state of radical leftism, they don't seem very defeated)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534073)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:56 AM
Author: excitant hell

There are many ways to look at the Cold War and I don't think the perspective of "this was a way to expand power and influence" is necessarily wrong.

"looking at the state of radical leftism, they don't seem very defeated"

I really do agree with the people saying that this is actually the offspring of an old KGB program from the 1960s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534204)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 5:47 PM
Author: Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich

B/c Vietnam is seen and discussed almost exclusively through the lens of people who watched vietnam transpire in their living rooms, as opposed to viewing the war through its complete historical / geopolitical context. In that way it is very much detached from the cold war b/c the american experience with vietnam became about so many other issues.

It's nuts to think they just let reporters go chill with dudes under fire, then of course the effects of only having one sides atrocities broadcast to the world while the other side, kept an iron grip on the information it released out into the world where people just saw their swamp hospitals and not their vc communist atrocities

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542681)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:35 AM
Author: mahogany scourge upon the earth

What's wrong with Euro-style colonization? It worked well for the time and was nothing to be ashamed of IMO. I don't see much difference between the US conquering the Native Americans and, say, the British establishing an overseas empire, and I don't see either as problematic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534058)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:36 AM
Author: salmon big gunner jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534070)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:52 AM
Author: Drab judgmental site international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534182)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:58 AM
Author: excitant hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534223)



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Date: July 5th, 2020 4:55 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

Repeatedly breaking treaties with the Native Americans was pretty slimy and kind of Jewish TBF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40551303)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:27 PM
Author: Bateful blue corner internal respiration

Ours?

It’s for the Jews, lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536087)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:35 AM
Author: salmon big gunner jew

Mfcr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534061)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:40 AM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

"This is the freest and most just nation on Earth. Nowhere in the world are the poor or mal-adapted treated better and nowhere on Earth do normal people have more opportunity to live a happy life."

LOL, I want the best for America because it is my country, bro, but if you believe this you haven't really been to many other countries. LJL at this Hannity-level dreck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534100)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:57 AM
Author: Hairraiser legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534213)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:59 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone voyeur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534227)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:59 AM
Author: excitant hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534234)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 11:05 AM
Author: trip olive tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534284)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 12:39 PM
Author: Carmine Anal Cruise Ship Boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534876)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 12:40 PM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

name 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534880)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 12:43 PM
Author: excitant hell

Norway. Denmark. The Netherlands. Switzerland. Austria.

The US has some advantages over each of them but I'd rather be a poor in those places than the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534902)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 12:45 PM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

try to immigrate there and open a profitable small business. ain't happening.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534918)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 12:48 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend

most born here couldn’t even afford to open a business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534940)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:01 PM
Author: excitant hell

tcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535882)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 12:49 PM
Author: Dashing Green Dysfunction Bawdyhouse

what does this have to do with citizens of those countries leading a happy life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534949)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:31 PM
Author: Thriller rusted stag film hairy legs

cr. what the fuck is this bullshit about "opening a small bidness" being the ultimate goal for a human being

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535195)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:32 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend

This is literally the only thing true believer conservatives have left

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535213)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:07 PM
Author: excitant hell

I mean, if that was his argument then he should have said that. Maybe "the US is the best place for strivers that want to have a small business" or whatever. I'm not even sure that's true but it is more defensible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535927)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:44 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

that's why i didnt include the "small business" part of your quote in my OP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535287)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:06 PM
Author: excitant hell

This is a totally different goalpost. You wrote "Nowhere in the world are the poor or mal-adapted treated better and nowhere on Earth do normal people have more opportunity to live a happy life." If you're a normal poor you are far better off there than here. You will get a well paying job with real benefits and vacation and if somehow you fail to, you'll get welfare and public housing and free healthcare in a pretty safe area. I'm not saying those are great policies for the US, but I am noting that if you're "poor or mal-adapted", that their setup where they spend on social services is far better than what we have here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535920)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:11 PM
Author: Concupiscible Multi-billionaire

Any countries that are not 95% white?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542794)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:20 PM
Author: excitant hell

Solid challenge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita

So I guess you have Qatar and UAE, Singapore, and Brunei as candidates. I don't know enough about any of these places to really comment. All are small, fairly homogenous, and next to powerful neighbors that could pwn them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542843)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:24 PM
Author: Concupiscible Multi-billionaire

Ok so basically only white countries and tiny 1-offs that would be invaded and destroyed if the US didn’t enforce global boundaries.

So the US is hands down the best place to be a poor minority. Now apologize to MW.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542864)



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Date: July 5th, 2020 5:09 PM
Author: excitant hell

Huh? How does the fact that they're overwhelmingly white countries make what MW said true? He was talking about the US specifically, not white countries generally. Also, no one said anything about minorities. It was a basic statement that happens to not be correct. I stand by my conclusion.

Remember, this was the statement: "This is the freest and most just nation on Earth. Nowhere in the world are the poor or mal-adapted treated better and nowhere on Earth do normal people have more opportunity to live a happy life."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40551366)



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Date: July 5th, 2020 7:16 PM
Author: Buck-toothed Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40552002)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:41 AM
Author: bistre area

Among the nations who built empires, we are by far the most decent and humane. Yes, we should be proud because ameirca is ours. We should also have pride in our history and what we accomplished.

Edit: i will add the brits did ok too. But we are an extension of their history to some degree, even on 4th of july. Read up some time on how the dutch and the spanish ran their colonies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534107)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:41 AM
Author: rose lodge codepig

You think we didn’t become or act like an empire ?

Lmao. You gotta learn history man. I love America too, but crack a book.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40534109)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:54 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Talented Field

We were never a “real” empire. Although the the Mexican-American war was obviously a war of conquest. How many countries in our strategic position post WW2 would have acted with the restraint we did?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535356)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:55 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

the Spanish-American war also

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535369)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:49 PM
Author: rose lodge codepig

"restraint"

*builds 22,000 nuclear warheads*

*uses CIA/military to attempt to topple every anti-US gov't in world*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535771)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:14 PM
Author: Concupiscible Multi-billionaire

22,000 nukes; used 2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542812)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:21 PM
Author: excitant hell

By that measure the USSR was amazing because while it built the largest stockpile on the planet including a 50 megaton bomb, it used 0 in war.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542853)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:09 PM
Author: excitant hell

Because we didn't officially have a monarch or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535943)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:15 PM
Author: mahogany scourge upon the earth

lol, we still have troops occupying Germany and Japan even now, 75 years after the end of the war.

Bases all over the world, way beyond what even the British were able to do.

Just because we (and the Soviets) figured out it made more sense to have client states than officially draw "empire" lines on a map...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535994)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:19 PM
Author: nudist sadistic striped hyena property

Bases in a foreign country does not make it a colony.

Germans and Japanese would be surprised to hear that they are colonies of the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536025)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:19 PM
Author: rose lodge codepig

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536030)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 4:09 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend

No they wouldn’t

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536306)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:54 PM
Author: Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544127)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:16 PM
Author: excitant hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544243)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:45 PM
Author: sexy ruby philosopher-king point

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40538598)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:23 PM
Author: excitant hell

"The military of the United States is deployed in more than 150 countries around the world, with approximately 170,020 of its active-duty personnel serving outside the United States and its territories." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536056)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:26 PM
Author: nudist sadistic striped hyena property

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536082)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:28 PM
Author: excitant hell

You don't see how this is imperial behavior?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536094)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:33 PM
Author: nudist sadistic striped hyena property

If it's imperial behavior, making the US an empire, then that applies to most European countries as well, and asian and Latin American.

France and England were once empires but no one would call them empires today, yet they both had military bases in other continents.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536115)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:38 PM
Author: excitant hell

"Of it's imperial behavior, making the US an empire, then that applied to most European countries as well, and asian and Latin American."

Of course.

"France and England were once empires but no one would call them empires today, yet they both had military bases in other continents."

No one would call them empires today because their power has declined massively and they lost the overwhelming majority of their overseas holdings. The US is an empire because our power and scope is truly global, and it is exercised to control nations and governments around the world. Governments that are vulnerable and problematic to the US get overthrown. We usually offer some sort of pretense that may or may not end up total BS ("there are WMDs in Iraq!" "we have to overthrow the Libyan government so Libya is peaceful!"). But all empires do this shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536158)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:40 PM
Author: nudist sadistic striped hyena property

No one would call them empires today because they aren't empires.

And the US doesn't have any colonies, it's not an empire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536170)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:42 PM
Author: excitant hell

They're not empires because they have no real overseas holdings.

The US is an empire because it controls numerous countries around the world and can get its way in global affairs through military might. As others have said, the fact that we rule this way instead of through direct colonies isn't important. This is generally how the USSR was an empire as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536191)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:53 PM
Author: Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich

Yeah I think this is right - it has more to do with the timing of our rise than some special moral fortitude that's both uniquely american and non-european...

I.e. America's true might and influence came of age in a postwar world where that way of doing business was no longer acceptable - for a variety of reasons but probably most significantly the change in global media / importance of global public opinion, and especially after millions of lives were sacrificed fighting against Japanese imperialism and German fascism, i.e. fighting for the freedom of others.... we weren't about to turn around and start colonizing territories in such postwar environment.

But make no mistake - America has a global economic empire that wields incredible influence and power with all its might, just in a modern sophisticated manner rather than African colonial holdings....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544116)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:16 PM
Author: excitant hell

And by the way, other Euro nations didn't get out of the colonial game because of morality - they just couldn't afford it. It was horribly expensive and the costs exceeded the benefits. So they "gave the countries independence." But they still got what they really wanted (the resources, for example) by offering "foreign aid" in exchange for their companies retaining access to the resources, which is what they really want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544240)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:49 PM
Author: Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich

Exactly.

My fiancee is from a family that's pretty well connected in central american country (eg high up in central banks, her and her siblings have top u.s. educations and have worked for the world bank / IMF etc) - and the corruption and dynamics in the foreign aid programs are just straight up a more sophisticated version of "colonial governor" mechanics w/ native networks. e.g. following the policies we want, allowing corporations access to labor / resources etc. Interestingly - the corruption ensures that the incentives are correctly aligned between the two parties, America distributing aid, and the administrators receiving the aid who set policies, grant corporations access to cheap labor, resources like mineral rights etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544354)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:55 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535366)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:54 PM
Author: nudist sadistic striped hyena property

Empires have colonies. We have none.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535804)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:10 PM
Author: excitant hell

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/united-states-colonial-rule-philippines

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Liberia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territories_of_the_United_States

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535957)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:12 PM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

Why do you hate Liberia? What did Liberia ever do to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535967)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:24 PM
Author: excitant hell

lol, I have no hatred of Liberia or the Philippines.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536064)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:17 PM
Author: nudist sadistic striped hyena property

None of these are colonies that are exploited by an empire.

No one believes that the phillipines is a colony of the US.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536015)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:24 PM
Author: excitant hell

Until WW2 they were LITERALLY a colony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536070)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:22 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Talented Field

If you look at actual data we are one of the least prejudiced countries on earth. We are hyper sensitive about racial issues. The whole thing is absurd. We have too many guns, too many violent blacks who do stupid shit like assault cops, and too many low-IQ abusive cops who are allowed to stay on the force because they are protected by unions.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/15/a-fascinating-map-of-the-worlds-most-and-least-racially-tolerant-countries/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535129)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:31 PM
Author: ebony frozen pit pervert

OP is just a hysterical baby that SC lost some statues of people that weren't good at their jobs

He probably wants a statue for Stephen Garcia too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535203)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:35 PM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

Why, why would you have a problem with Stephen Garcia? HE BEAT #1 ALABAMA AND NEVER LOST TO CLEMSON.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535241)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:46 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

BTFO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535297)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:50 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

(NOT Robert E. Lee, Nathan Bedford Forrest, Jeff Davis, Stonewall Jackson, etc)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535329)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 1:54 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

"Our history is something to be proud of, as we have generally not fought wars of conquest and we never became an Empire, we fought wars to either protect ourselves or our ideals."

Hmmm..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535361)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:08 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Talented Field

The US is the greatest country on earth but a handful of others are probably actually better to live in as an average person. I would much rather be an average person in the Netherlands or Norway than the US. But if you aspire to more and are willing to take risks there are things possible here that are not possible almost anywhere else. Elon Musk or any number of countless anonymous success stories are almost impossible in any of the counties that are better for the average person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535471)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:46 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

i think the OP is retarded, but i agree with this



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535743)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:53 PM
Author: Hot confused gaping



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535798)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 4:55 PM
Author: Bat shit crazy passionate fanboi corn cake

Why are success stories like that not possible in Norway, Denmark, etc?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536561)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 5:00 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

USA has a more winner-take-all mentality

that said, the IKEA guy is Swedish, the Uniqlo guy is Japanese, the Zara guy is Spanish, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536592)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:36 PM
Author: Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich

Not possible is too strong of wording - but clearly there aren't the same sort of structures there willing to fund entrepreneurship, not as many outlets for extremely talented individuals etc.

Possible certainly, but much more friction in the generating process....

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544312)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:38 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal parlour

1. As many in this thread have already pointed out, there are quite a few first world countries where life is better for ordinary middle and working class people. I have family in France, Germany, and Italy and can attest to that. Some of them live in rural places with no real industry or commerce but still enjoy a quality of life that is easily on par with or better than the American middle class. Their equivalents in the US live in rural shitholds that the US has long abandoned. Abandoning entire communities is a US trademark not typical of other first word countries.

2. The US is a more benevolent power than past empires. I do think the US catches more shit than it deserves in this regard.

3. American style capitalism (boot-straps and the American Dream (TM)) may have worked fairly well in the past but it’s failing in the face of a modern economy that exacerbates the income and wealth inequality problem that is inherent in the system. Young people are far less patriotic and more likely to embrace alternative ideologies as it becomes more obvious that they will, in the aggregate, be worse off than prior generations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535678)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:39 AM
Author: Wonderful wild stage milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40539532)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:00 AM
Author: Diverse Home

yeah somewhere between this and bernie, basically.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40539986)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:45 PM
Author: idiotic fragrant space

of course not

the only people saying this are insane libs, pumos, Russian Jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535731)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:49 PM
Author: nudist sadistic striped hyena property

Comments pointing out that poor people in monoethnic nordic states have it better are dumb. They are 5 million people, oil rich, and entirely homogeneous.

And Germany and France and most of Europe have much stricter immigration requirements so they don't have the same level of poor to begin with.

Then you have other countries like Japan that don't even allow immigration in the first place much less from poor people, and others like Australia where it's also difficult to immigrate.

The US is basically open borders, or was before 6 months ago, and the people who come here are poor. Even legal immigration is chain migration, not that of Canada or other euro countries based on merit.

OP is right but it's not even a fair comparison to begin with, because the other countries dont take the truly poor to begin with, and we do, in enormous, demographically changing, legal and illegal, numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535768)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:51 PM
Author: Primrose hideous piazza

you seem dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535786)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 2:53 PM
Author: idiotic fragrant space

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535801)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:08 PM
Author: excitant hell

This explains the "why" but doesn't deny the "what".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40535937)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:42 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend

I love that for America to be “best” the standard needs to be foreigners being able to easily come in and make lots of money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536187)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:24 PM
Author: Bateful blue corner internal respiration

We’re fat af and don’t give a shit. People are too fat for sex or basic functions. Lol.

One of the worst countries in the world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536065)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:43 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend

Happy July 4th weekend everybody

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536196)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:46 PM
Author: Chest-beating lemon cuck faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536209)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 3:47 PM
Author: excitant hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536211)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 4:12 PM
Author: Bateful blue corner internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40536315)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:53 PM
Author: Twisted adventurous heaven sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544117)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:59 PM
Author: azure boyish prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544152)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:01 PM
Author: Appetizing Flickering Patrolman

ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40537930)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 8:14 AM
Author: Thriller rusted stag film hairy legs

on the contrary. first-world countries feel guilty about their colonial pasts in which they pwned third-worlders like you. third-world countries are crudely proud and jingoistic to compensate for their inferiority.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40540025)



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Date: July 5th, 2020 7:16 PM
Author: Appetizing Flickering Patrolman

lollercausting HARD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40552000)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:10 PM
Author: beady-eyed weed whacker

Libs would prefer Iran or China now flame

They’re mentally ill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40537981)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:18 PM
Author: Appetizing Flickering Patrolman

rhodesia, actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40538054)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:25 PM
Author: sexy ruby philosopher-king point

damn, OP has become very mentally ill.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40538091)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:26 PM
Author: Appetizing Flickering Patrolman

plato's cavedwellers were perfectly sane bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40538096)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:04 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544175)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 9:47 PM
Author: Gaped lavender tank

what a gay amount of hubris on display.

america is the greatest country on earth because theres no niggers in your faggot gated community? america is the greatest country on earth because you can kike scam the citizenry en route to being a faggot tech billionaire?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40538168)



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Date: July 2nd, 2020 10:38 PM
Author: Comical indirect expression ratface

Muscadine doing God's work here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40538535)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 12:04 AM
Author: Overrated market

What about stuff like Wounded Knee (1890) where hundreds of men, women, and children were killed thrown into a pit by the cavalry to make way for white settlement?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40539134)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 1:05 AM
Author: Appetizing Flickering Patrolman

bro america materialized out of thin air. the red man never even inhabited modern day "america". all fraudlies. like the holocaust never happened either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40539415)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:36 AM
Author: titillating set mood

*topples this thread onto a black protester*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40539858)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:35 AM
Author: Bateful blue corner internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40540543)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 10:38 AM
Author: Claret disturbing regret mediation

I would more say that no foreigners are worth apologizing to for anything "America" supposedly did wrong. they can fuck off. Europe, Africa, asia, all of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40540556)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 4:52 PM
Author: excitant hell

Agree. Though I feel pretty bad for Libyans right now. We kind of destroyed their country for no reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542463)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:17 PM
Author: Concupiscible Multi-billionaire

Op is not literally true but we certainly are the most moral great power the world has ever known.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542827)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 6:22 PM
Author: excitant hell

That's debatable. But we definitely aren't anywhere near the worst.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40542858)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:06 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend

If you count Hollywood we are the worst

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544188)



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Date: July 3rd, 2020 11:03 PM
Author: Hairraiser legend

Rome was more moral than the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40544173)



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Date: July 5th, 2020 4:15 PM
Author: Blathering Wine Halford

The only country on earth where CSLG can make his money the way he does and we can all give him 180s for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40551089)



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Date: July 5th, 2020 4:30 PM
Author: Bateful blue corner internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40551164)



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Date: July 5th, 2020 5:10 PM
Author: medicated mexican

"Nowhere in the world are the poor or mal-adapted treated better and nowhere on Earth do normal people have more opportunity to live a happy life."

Yeah, that might be the problem (the first part)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40551371)



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Date: July 7th, 2020 10:00 AM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

I wrote this title to specifically trigger American hating libs. Of course there are things to be ashamed of, from Indian massacres to Andersonville to Dresden. However, that doesn't diminish the historical level greatness of this country. Libs love to dwell and absolutely live in areas of US History that are less than honorable, and the entire point of this thread was a big giant FUCK YOU to shitlibs over the 4th of July holiday.

All the America haters in this thread need to take a good look at yourselves and contemplate why you are brainwashed faggots.

Happy 4th of July to all of you, even libs. Libs, this country is amazing, free yourself from your shitty educations and see this truth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4574920&forum_id=2#40560454)



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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:59 AM
Author: Bateful blue corner internal respiration

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Date: July 7th, 2020 2:22 PM
Author: twinkling casino son of senegal

Impressive reply

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Date: July 7th, 2020 11:58 AM
Author: Emerald bearded trust fund theater stage

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