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Who do Jehovah's Witnesses believe?

What* How does their religion differ from Christianity?
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/12/21
They actually follow the Bible
jet big fortuitous meteor jewess
  01/12/21
Why don't they celebrate Christmas?
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/12/21
Bc its totally bullshit and not Bible based
jet big fortuitous meteor jewess
  01/12/21
Really? Not a religionmo so I don't know. I thought Christia...
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/12/21
JWs recognize that Xmas came from the Roman saturnalia (wint...
coral tanning salon kitty cat
  01/12/21
So they don't have an issue with JC's actual birth then, jus...
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/12/21
They don’t celebrate birthdays at all because they bel...
coral tanning salon kitty cat
  01/13/21
seems like some 110 iq hot take bullshit. lets just do chris...
arousing ceo
  01/13/21
Compared to regular 85 IQ Christianity this is probably righ...
well-lubricated bawdyhouse mad cow disease
  01/13/21
Do they believe in the Resurrection?
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/13/21
Yes. They believe 144,000 will rule as “kings and prie...
coral tanning salon kitty cat
  01/13/21
Wtf? Who are these 144,000 people? Aren't the JWs constantly...
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/13/21
The big pitch is living forever in eternal youth on a paradi...
coral tanning salon kitty cat
  01/13/21
I see. So when people die, JWs say "Rest in Paradise&qu...
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/13/21
I’m not familiar with JWs using that phrase, but if th...
coral tanning salon kitty cat
  01/13/21
They certainly try. Their main issue (IMO) is the whole &ldq...
coral tanning salon kitty cat
  01/12/21
more or less true...they believe in heaven on earth, not hea...
Galvanic pistol base
  01/13/21
one of their long-running beliefs is that modern america rep...
spectacular hyperactive center
  01/12/21
Whoa
jet big fortuitous meteor jewess
  01/12/21
Yeah, they were jailed in WWI and WW2 for refusing to go to ...
coral tanning salon kitty cat
  01/13/21
Jesus is coming asap and btw Jesus wasn’t god, trinity...
Maize nighttime property
  01/12/21
BTW on the subject of crazy 19th century US restorationist m...
Maize nighttime property
  01/12/21
lol was the founder a disgraced IFNB member
Jet-lagged aggressive corner
  01/13/21
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Maize nighttime property
  01/13/21
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Ruby hairraiser locus milk
  01/13/21
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Jet-lagged aggressive corner
  01/13/21
big kiddy diddler scam in the ranks of these folks as well
Internet-worthy crimson pit
  01/12/21
a joke. A general heuristic for people: If no early churc...
aromatic mildly autistic cuckoldry marketing idea
  01/12/21
And what interpretation is that exactly?
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/12/21
The non-existence of hell, for example. Another would be the...
aromatic mildly autistic cuckoldry marketing idea
  01/12/21
So when you die, what happens to your soul according to JW?
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/12/21
Sometimes it dies along with the person. I'm hardly a JW exp...
aromatic mildly autistic cuckoldry marketing idea
  01/12/21
There is no separate soul according to JWs. You *are* a soul...
coral tanning salon kitty cat
  01/13/21
10k get saved. They've already been chosen. You can apply ...
Turquoise Vibrant Kitchen Boistinker
  01/12/21
It's a joke Religion that was created to avoid the Vietnam d...
Charcoal Turdskin Hell
  01/13/21
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Jet-lagged aggressive corner
  01/13/21
Vegetarianism and not receiving blood transfusions.
white vengeful rigor love of her life
  01/13/21
This is definitely not true. The JWs i know eat a lot of mea...
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/13/21
Maybe it’s more like little to no meat. Or maybe I&rsq...
white vengeful rigor love of her life
  01/13/21
Blood thing is true.
well-lubricated bawdyhouse mad cow disease
  01/13/21
I'm friends with one who left it in his teens but then redis...
comical address
  01/13/21
The limited space available to get into their version of &qu...
Dashing Wine Dilemma
  01/13/21
Is there a waiting list?
buff adventurous deer antler stag film
  01/13/21
Limited admission to heaven seems like a smart strategy to k...
comical address
  01/13/21
Actually it’s one of the selling points. The VAST majo...
coral tanning salon kitty cat
  01/13/21
Yep this is generally correct except it’s 144k who go ...
coral tanning salon kitty cat
  01/13/21


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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:39 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

What*

How does their religion differ from Christianity?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741362)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:41 PM
Author: jet big fortuitous meteor jewess

They actually follow the Bible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741392)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:42 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

Why don't they celebrate Christmas?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741396)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:47 PM
Author: jet big fortuitous meteor jewess

Bc its totally bullshit and not Bible based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741465)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:49 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

Really? Not a religionmo so I don't know. I thought Christians believe Jesus was born on Christmas, thus worth celebrating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741479)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:05 PM
Author: coral tanning salon kitty cat

JWs recognize that Xmas came from the Roman saturnalia (winter solstice more or less) and thus has pagan roots. Nothing in scripture indicates JC was born in December, in fact to the contrary the fact that shepherds were sleeping outside with their flocks when the angel appeared announcing JC’s birth indicates it wasn’t winter bc it’s cold in Israel in December.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741600)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:19 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

So they don't have an issue with JC's actual birth then, just an issue with the date. Seems like an arbitrary thing to fuss about.

Do they believe JC is the son of God (Jehovah)?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741679)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:12 AM
Author: coral tanning salon kitty cat

They don’t celebrate birthdays at all because they believe such celebrations are of pagan origin. That’s a recurring theme for JWs. Mixing Christianity and paganism is a big no-no.

They do believe JC is son of God, but not part of a trinity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743851)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:14 AM
Author: arousing ceo

seems like some 110 iq hot take bullshit. lets just do christianity minus JC's birthday and call him the son of god but not god himself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743858)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:12 PM
Author: well-lubricated bawdyhouse mad cow disease

Compared to regular 85 IQ Christianity this is probably right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748459)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 12:29 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

Do they believe in the Resurrection?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745185)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 1:00 PM
Author: coral tanning salon kitty cat

Yes. They believe 144,000 will rule as “kings and priests” in heaven with JC, and there will be a resurrection to earth of “the righteous and unrighteous” where they’ll be ruled by JC and the 144k and the earth will be a paradise like the garden of Eden. There’s obv more detail, but that’s the high level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745426)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 1:17 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

Wtf? Who are these 144,000 people? Aren't the JWs constantly trying to recruit more people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745566)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 2:11 PM
Author: coral tanning salon kitty cat

The big pitch is living forever in eternal youth on a paradise earth. Very few modern day JWs consider themselves part of the 144k. Maybe like 1 out of 1,000 current JWs. The rest have the “earthly hope.”

So I guess that’s a key difference between JW-ism and mainstream Christianity. Mainstream Christians want to go to heaven. Most JWs want to live forever on paradise earth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745987)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 5:14 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

I see. So when people die, JWs say "Rest in Paradise" meaning rest in paradise earth, not heaven

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41747344)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 6:59 PM
Author: coral tanning salon kitty cat

I’m not familiar with JWs using that phrase, but if they do, yes whenever they refer to “paradise” they are referring to earth. And more precisely, post-Armageddon earth which is restored to edenic perfection, lions laying down with lambs (literally), and righteous humans living forever in eternal youth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748028)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:08 PM
Author: coral tanning salon kitty cat

They certainly try. Their main issue (IMO) is the whole “end times” schtick they’ve been running for over 100 years. But otherwise gotta give the JWs credit for trying to follow actual scripture and rejecting sketchy doctrines like trinity, hellfire, and the like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741614)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 1:06 PM
Author: Galvanic pistol base

more or less true...they believe in heaven on earth, not heaven in the sky...the bible specifically says that the faithful will live forever ON EARTH...all the rest of mainstream christianity is buying into this heaven in the sky bullshit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745491)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:47 PM
Author: spectacular hyperactive center

one of their long-running beliefs is that modern america represents Babylon the Great from the book of revelation. that didn't make them very popular with US authorities for a long while, but now it seems kind of prescient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741460)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:48 PM
Author: jet big fortuitous meteor jewess

Whoa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741468)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:13 AM
Author: coral tanning salon kitty cat

Yeah, they were jailed in WWI and WW2 for refusing to go to war for USA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743854)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:56 PM
Author: Maize nighttime property

Jesus is coming asap and btw Jesus wasn’t god, trinity is a sham

only the uber special (them) are saved

Christianity lost its way until the 19th century (them), don’t think they believe in any kind of continuity with church through time

yhwh is literally pronounced “Jehovah” (misunderstanding the vowel markers the masoretic text added to remind the reader to say “adonai”/lord when reading the divine name) and for some reason we have to say Jehovah a lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741546)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:59 PM
Author: Maize nighttime property

BTW on the subject of crazy 19th century US restorationist movements (there were several), look up the Oneida community of you’re not familiar

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneida_Community

(yes, the silverware people, one and the same)

the dudes had to keep the women “pure” by banging them but not cumming. high intensity sport

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741566)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:15 AM
Author: Jet-lagged aggressive corner

lol was the founder a disgraced IFNB member

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743863)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:26 AM
Author: Maize nighttime property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743905)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:28 AM
Author: Ruby hairraiser locus milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743912)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 12:32 PM
Author: Jet-lagged aggressive corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745214)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:01 PM
Author: Internet-worthy crimson pit

big kiddy diddler scam in the ranks of these folks as well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741573)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:20 PM
Author: aromatic mildly autistic cuckoldry marketing idea

a joke.

A general heuristic for people: If no early church fathers wrote or support key tenets of your beliefs, and in fact often say things completely to the contrary, your interpretation is likely horseshit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741680)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:21 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

And what interpretation is that exactly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741690)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:24 PM
Author: aromatic mildly autistic cuckoldry marketing idea

The non-existence of hell, for example. Another would be the denial of an immortal soul. Those core JW beliefs run completely contrary to the corpus of early church documents, letters and pronouncements.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741703)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:25 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

So when you die, what happens to your soul according to JW?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741711)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:29 PM
Author: aromatic mildly autistic cuckoldry marketing idea

Sometimes it dies along with the person. I'm hardly a JW expert so the nuances about when they think it does die and when it does not is something i am ignorant about. What I do know is that they believe in some instances that the soul dies with the person which is simply wrong.

I would add something else to that heuristic: If you have to start changing words and shit in the bible to match you beliefs in contrast to what has been circulating for over a thousand years. This would apply to Luther as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741731)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: coral tanning salon kitty cat

There is no separate soul according to JWs. You *are* a soul, you don’t *have* a soul. When you die, you are dead. But God (Jehovah) can resurrect you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41746006)



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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:26 PM
Author: Turquoise Vibrant Kitchen Boistinker

10k get saved. They've already been chosen.

You can apply for waitlist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741715)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:13 AM
Author: Charcoal Turdskin Hell

It's a joke Religion that was created to avoid the Vietnam draft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743853)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:27 AM
Author: Jet-lagged aggressive corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743910)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 7:56 PM
Author: white vengeful rigor love of her life

Vegetarianism and not receiving blood transfusions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748350)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:03 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

This is definitely not true. The JWs i know eat a lot of meat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748402)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:11 PM
Author: white vengeful rigor love of her life

Maybe it’s more like little to no meat. Or maybe I’m thinking of Seventh Day Adventists. I don’t really know any JWs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748456)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:13 PM
Author: well-lubricated bawdyhouse mad cow disease

Blood thing is true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748468)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:17 PM
Author: comical address

I'm friends with one who left it in his teens but then rediscovered in mid 20s

Basically it's all about the Bible.

The belief that we are in "end times"

The only way to be one of the 126,000 who get to heaven is to live a "good" life, do regular bible-study, and go door-to-door once a week. They don't really speak about the 126,000 thing openly, though.

There are no special days (birthdays, holidays, etc)

Some will drink in moderation, dance, party and have fun. But there is no pre-martial sex. Swear words kept to a minimum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748495)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:19 PM
Author: Dashing Wine Dilemma

The limited space available to get into their version of "heaven" (Paradise) is really a shitty tenet of their religion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748508)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:43 PM
Author: buff adventurous deer antler stag film

Is there a waiting list?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748665)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:47 PM
Author: comical address

Limited admission to heaven seems like a smart strategy to keep people committed and adhering to the rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748693)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:38 PM
Author: coral tanning salon kitty cat

Actually it’s one of the selling points. The VAST majority of JWs have no desire to go to heaven. They have the “earthly hope”: living forever in a bucolic paradise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41749009)



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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:33 PM
Author: coral tanning salon kitty cat

Yep this is generally correct except it’s 144k who go to heaven.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748980)