Biglaw 1st year 240k could you maek it to tear 8 for 550k?
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Date: January 19th, 2024 8:35 PM Author: Magenta vengeful love of her life feces
FML -- I only make as much as a 3-4 year associate and I'm in my mid 30s. I'm such a faggot loser. XOXO fucked me by convincing me that TCR move was to bail out of biglaw ASAP to go inhouse.
Now I'm poor as fuck -- literally living paycheck to paycheck.
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Date: November 23rd, 2024 3:53 PM
Author: ,,,,.....,,,,...,........,,,.....,,...,...
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Date: January 20th, 2024 10:32 PM Author: metal church dragon
Now cut it in half for taxes, subtract $50,000 for an apartment, another $50,000 for loan payment and...NYC big law doesn't look as compelling?
But wait...it'll be great when you make it to 8th year?
Now you've got kids, so subtract $100,000 for an apartment. And cut out $60,000 per kid for private school.
But wait...it'll be great when you're a partner?
Now your wife left you because you work until 10 pm routinely and don't help with the kids. So half of your money goes to her.
So your $800,000 in income partner money goes to $400,000 with taxes, then $200,000 goes to alimony and child support, $100,000 to your apartment, somehow you still are paying on your student loans, and....
Maybe you should've just stayed in your home town and taught high school history....
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Date: January 21st, 2024 10:14 AM Author: metal church dragon
Totally. I mean in theory youu're supposed to have the kids every other weekend but better not to have extra bedrooms for them - you'll be cancelling for deals anyway.
You can bring home the cot from your office if you actually need a place for them to sleep.
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Date: January 21st, 2024 4:09 AM Author: concupiscible maize boistinker
Compensation, inflation adjusted, is significantly higher now than it was for the shitshow that most current XOers were in biglaw for (the 2008-2016 stagnation of 0 raises and shit bonuses).
That said there is only so much 7th and 8th year associate work to go around, especially now that firms have filled out their ranks of permanent associates and nonequity partners. Maybe more money will increase the will to keep going on another half a year or year, but for the most part I doubt it makes a difference.
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Date: January 21st, 2024 8:37 AM Author: motley box office
Few people in biglaw are even making these sums. First off, plenty of v100 firms pay market only to first years then do some black box foolishness (they will claim with a straight face that superstars can make even more than market).
Then a bunch of the firms that do pay lockstep don’t match cravath/milbank/whatever bonuses. The number of people making the amounts in the op becomes really small.
I was at one of those black box firms, in the dc office. I made 350k as a fifth-year service partner because the place became eat what you kill as a partner and I was on a big rainmaker’s team who didn’t share billing credit and I had no clue how to do biz dev (nor did I care because I had my head buried in cocaine and stripper pussy).
So anyway, take all the hypos above and cut the numbers way down and ask yourself if you’d do it.
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Date: November 23rd, 2024 3:55 PM
Author: ,,,,.....,,,,...,........,,,.....,,...,...
Sounds like JD
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Date: January 21st, 2024 4:44 PM Author: motley box office
i'm no longer there. i left BIGLOL for a midlaw firm, where i am an equity partner.
but when i was in biglaw yeah i billed like 1600 hours a year usually. i stopped trying after my first year as partner. i billed around 2k hours and got a sps bonus and minimal raise so i phoned it in for 4 years.
the tradeoff in my situation was that even though the rainmaker hoarded all the credit, you were untouchable if you worked for him. i got shithoused one night before a marketing event in another city and didn't show up to a presentation i was supposed to do. never heard about it, except that he sat down with me and told me he loved me and not to do it again. (that said, the guy would rip your head off for typos in emails, totally fucking weird).
can't complain. i actually have nothing bad to say about the biglaw experience. the pay, comparatively speaking, was trash but overall i liked it.
now my requirement is 1650 a year and for 2023 my comp is 450. not too bad. (having said that, i am the only traditional labor partner at the firm so i'm spending lots of nonbillable time on biz dev shit and i never did that before.)
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Date: January 21st, 2024 7:22 PM Author: motley box office
True but even some firms within the v50 do this. Isn’t JD like v40? So is DLA piper, which one enjoys only if one doesn’t want to make market comp.
There are a lot of people in biglaw who don’t make 500k all in as a senior associate
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Date: November 23rd, 2024 3:55 PM
Author: ,,,,.....,,,,...,........,,,.....,,...,...
They do and don't care :(
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Date: November 23rd, 2024 6:17 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,..:,,:,......,;:.,.:..:.,:,::,.
So big law types make significantly less than an enterprise sales guy at a software company?
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