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Rate this 5th Tier city in China where 2bd Apts can be Bought for $8k USD

ROFL USA is finished https://x.com/HongqiN701/status/1827...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
No one wants to raise a family in an apartment. That shithol...
Twinkling razzle background story headpube
  08/25/24
yes its better to pay $1.2m to Bank of Jew for a 2.5k sqft s...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
You buy single family homes outside of cities specifically t...
Twinkling razzle background story headpube
  08/25/24
yes niggas will never figure out to go rob birdshits in subu...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
They haven’t. Also we have guns.
Twinkling razzle background story headpube
  08/25/24
ljl plenty
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
I wish there was a real thing called Bank of Jew. Or the Heb...
White swashbuckling market wrinkle
  08/25/24
close: https://hfls.org/
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
Americans are retards
snowy coffee pot meetinghouse
  08/25/24
What is an HSR station?
White swashbuckling market wrinkle
  08/25/24
high speed rail
Seedy juggernaut menage
  08/25/24
rofl Birdshit Amerikkkans 2024, tell them HSR station they h...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
China:HSR::USA:Methadone Clinic
comical carnelian stage party of the first part
  08/25/24
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Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
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Diverse buff goyim dilemma
  08/25/24
lol
White swashbuckling market wrinkle
  08/25/24
lol absolutely devastating
supple mahogany stain lodge
  08/25/24
A station for making HSR filings of course.
embarrassed to the bone ultramarine plaza
  08/25/24
Can foreigners own houses in China?
Seedy juggernaut menage
  08/25/24
cmon. chinks cant even own houses in china. everybody is on ...
Startling Vibrant Gay Wizard Address
  08/25/24
Well can foreigners enter into 99 yr leases
Seedy juggernaut menage
  08/25/24
yes.
Startling Vibrant Gay Wizard Address
  08/25/24
180
Seedy juggernaut menage
  08/25/24
why do ppl maek a deal out of this shit, u dont "own&qu...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
in china upon death the person who inherits the lease is sub...
Startling Vibrant Gay Wizard Address
  08/25/24
i trust the CCP a lot more than JEW govt in US
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
ptoperty rights and contract laws at least give western citi...
Startling Vibrant Gay Wizard Address
  08/25/24
ive never researched CCP property rights but i dont believe ...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
lol at imagining chinks building around some losers property...
Stimulating high-end pit internal respiration
  08/25/24
all fraud and lies
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
“Is happy” let me stop you right there Hoss
Avocado cerebral business firm
  08/25/24
Foreigners with residence are allowed to purchase 1 house in...
fighting roast beef
  08/25/24
why do they have the birdshit-US thoroughfare model instead ...
concupiscible ceo
  08/25/24
All Chink cities have large main st but u can still walk, th...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
Isn't this 5th Tier city in the farthest north where surely ...
pungent gaped hunting ground persian
  08/25/24
yep, its great, and no niggas too
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
they actually have birdshit ruskie tourists there and even &...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
Where can I get an online tour of what an 8k apartment looks...
Crawly stirring boltzmann
  08/25/24
ljl apparently this is a big thing in china "lying flat...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
lol, I can dig it
Crawly stirring boltzmann
  08/25/24
No wonder housing is so depressed, it is coal country. China...
fighting roast beef
  08/25/24
AZNgirl moving closer to Jewish Autonomous Oblast tp
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
...
Seedy juggernaut menage
  08/25/24
About to get finger-oblasted
orange dragon
  08/26/24
I know work culture in the big cities in brutal with 996. Bu...
White swashbuckling market wrinkle
  08/25/24
A sinecure is teaching English but the Chinese government no...
fighting roast beef
  08/25/24
is privatized and internationalized schooling a callback to ...
Diverse buff goyim dilemma
  08/25/24
996 for computer jobs sinecure is very sinecure in rest of j...
Diverse buff goyim dilemma
  08/25/24
watch this vid, they are doing "lying flat" where ...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
Arent the Chinese in Manchuria more chad like
Puce unhinged marketing idea circlehead
  08/25/24
yea they are apes
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
Wangfei, any good books about ancient Chinese history in Eng...
Puce unhinged marketing idea circlehead
  08/25/24
understanding that i am taiwanese, so my ancient chinese his...
Startling Vibrant Gay Wizard Address
  08/25/24
Looking for pre qin actually. Do you think three sovereigns ...
Puce unhinged marketing idea circlehead
  08/25/24
they aren't making any more land and china is running out of...
Adventurous spot
  08/25/24
they just converted a HUGE area in the west that was desert ...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
so we agree china is done here?
Adventurous spot
  08/26/24
its just getting started
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/26/24
I rike a martin ruther king bourevard
concupiscible ceo
  08/25/24
No dilapidated strip malls littered with “for lease&rd...
salmon institution
  08/25/24
...
snowy coffee pot meetinghouse
  08/25/24
veddy many modern architecture and cool looking stuff, so ma...
Crimson Wild Mental Disorder
  08/25/24
lollercausting HARD ITT
Curious territorial useless brakes parlor
  08/25/24


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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:24 AM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

ROFL USA is finished

https://x.com/HongqiN701/status/1827540155705548946

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005585)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:14 PM
Author: Twinkling razzle background story headpube

No one wants to raise a family in an apartment. That shithole looks like Las Vegas without literally any of the fun stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005778)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:20 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

yes its better to pay $1.2m to Bank of Jew for a 2.5k sqft shitbox made out of cardboard by illegal Guatemalans and spend all your thoughts worrying when a bunch of bulkwild niggas will home invade you and rape your wife until she cums profusely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005802)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:22 PM
Author: Twinkling razzle background story headpube

You buy single family homes outside of cities specifically to avoid all of that you cumfarting retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005821)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:22 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

yes niggas will never figure out to go rob birdshits in suburbs! one weird trick!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005825)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:23 PM
Author: Twinkling razzle background story headpube

They haven’t. Also we have guns.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005833)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:27 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

ljl plenty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005851)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:23 PM
Author: White swashbuckling market wrinkle

I wish there was a real thing called Bank of Jew. Or the Hebrew National Bank.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005831)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:28 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

close:

https://hfls.org/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005859)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 4:01 PM
Author: snowy coffee pot meetinghouse

Americans are retards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48006517)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:27 AM
Author: White swashbuckling market wrinkle

What is an HSR station?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005590)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:31 AM
Author: Seedy juggernaut menage

high speed rail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005610)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:32 AM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

rofl Birdshit Amerikkkans 2024, tell them HSR station they have no idea but tell them METH station they run to it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005615)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: comical carnelian stage party of the first part

China:HSR::USA:Methadone Clinic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005620)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:36 AM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005628)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 4:01 PM
Author: Diverse buff goyim dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48006518)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:37 AM
Author: White swashbuckling market wrinkle

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005632)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:39 AM
Author: supple mahogany stain lodge

lol absolutely devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005637)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 4:10 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone ultramarine plaza

A station for making HSR filings of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48006551)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:40 AM
Author: Seedy juggernaut menage

Can foreigners own houses in China?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005639)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:44 AM
Author: Startling Vibrant Gay Wizard Address

cmon. chinks cant even own houses in china. everybody is on 99 year leases from the ccp, including foreigners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005650)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:45 AM
Author: Seedy juggernaut menage

Well can foreigners enter into 99 yr leases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005654)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:46 AM
Author: Startling Vibrant Gay Wizard Address

yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005656)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:46 AM
Author: Seedy juggernaut menage

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005658)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:51 AM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

why do ppl maek a deal out of this shit, u dont "own" shit in the US either, u cld pay 100% of ur mortgage but if u stop paying property tax they govt takes ur home

id rather have gorgeous commie CCP/vietnam system of long "lease"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005670)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:59 AM
Author: Startling Vibrant Gay Wizard Address

in china upon death the person who inherits the lease is subject to the whims of the state. yes most of the time it passes down but the state has the right to lease to someone else when they want. you never own the land so while there is eminent domain in the us, it is completely at the states discretion to bulldoze a building and tell everyone to gtfo. you are compensated but again its up to the ccp what that compensation is. often times it is not fair to the poor as you can imagine because the local govt always has their hand in re development and lots of corruption and bribes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005700)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:02 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

i trust the CCP a lot more than JEW govt in US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005712)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:04 PM
Author: Startling Vibrant Gay Wizard Address

ptoperty rights and contract laws at least give western citizens a chance against the state, jews or not.

but then i am talking to someone who owns nothing and is happy, you have leveled up faster than most of us in the globohomo game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005722)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:20 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

ive never researched CCP property rights but i dont believe this nonsense western anti china freaks say, fact is there are countless vids and pics of chink developers having to build AROUND some stubborn chink who refuses to sell

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005809)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 8:17 PM
Author: Stimulating high-end pit internal respiration

lol at imagining chinks building around some losers property. They have no respect for the rule of law or property rights. Even if it sucks in the West it’s even worse in China. They have like a 99.9% conviction rate compared to like 93% in the US

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48007463)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 10:39 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

all fraud and lies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48007945)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:20 PM
Author: Avocado cerebral business firm

“Is happy”

let me stop you right there Hoss

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005810)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:04 PM
Author: fighting roast beef

Foreigners with residence are allowed to purchase 1 house in China. It is technically a 70 year lease. It is expected the renewal of the lease will be simple when the first wave of leases start to expire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005720)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:50 AM
Author: concupiscible ceo

why do they have the birdshit-US thoroughfare model instead of walkable cities?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005668)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:52 AM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

All Chink cities have large main st but u can still walk, they have proper sidewalks and crosswalks unlike shithole india, and bike rentals are usually everywhere so ppl bike though in this area its freezing so not sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005675)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:51 AM
Author: pungent gaped hunting ground persian

Isn't this 5th Tier city in the farthest north where surely nobody speaks English and you're just lost up in the tundra?

This is basically Siberia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005669)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:52 AM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

yep, its great, and no niggas too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005676)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 11:53 AM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

they actually have birdshit ruskie tourists there and even "chinese" who are ruskie DNA so they wldnt be shocked to see u

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005680)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:02 PM
Author: Crawly stirring boltzmann

Where can I get an online tour of what an 8k apartment looks like on the inside?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005714)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:08 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

ljl apparently this is a big thing in china "lying flat" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMfcC643Odo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005734)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:16 PM
Author: Crawly stirring boltzmann

lol, I can dig it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005785)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:07 PM
Author: fighting roast beef

No wonder housing is so depressed, it is coal country. China is cracking down big time on coal. It had 545,000 in the urbanized areas in 2020 and I bet the population is dropping fast.

Hegang (Chinese: 鹤岗; pinyin: Hègǎng, also known as Heli and Xingshan), is a prefecture-level city in Heilongjiang province of the People's Republic of China, situated in the southeastern section of the Lesser Khingan Range, facing Jiamusi across the Songhua River to the south and Russia's Jewish Autonomous Oblast across the Amur River to the north. Hegang is one of the principal coal-producing cities in China.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005731)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:21 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

AZNgirl moving closer to Jewish Autonomous Oblast tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005814)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:29 PM
Author: Seedy juggernaut menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005865)



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Date: August 26th, 2024 12:38 AM
Author: orange dragon

About to get finger-oblasted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48008326)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:11 PM
Author: White swashbuckling market wrinkle

I know work culture in the big cities in brutal with 996. But is that the case in a 5th tier city as well? Like can you just buy this $9000 flat, have the ccp assign you generic Chinese girlbot 7237924, and chill in a 9-5 sinecure for the rest of your life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005757)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:13 PM
Author: fighting roast beef

A sinecure is teaching English but the Chinese government now doesn't want foreigners teaching at the K-12 level except real teachers in international schools because it drives up the cost of education.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005768)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:22 PM
Author: Diverse buff goyim dilemma

is privatized and internationalized schooling a callback to 私塾 and then revolt from the downtrodden poor when they no longer given the hope for University?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005826)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:21 PM
Author: Diverse buff goyim dilemma

996 for computer jobs sinecure is very sinecure in rest of job china esp govt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005815)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:22 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

watch this vid, they are doing "lying flat" where they just buy super cheap places like this and do whatever, i didnt listen to everything this bitch says but seems she just quit the rat race and can do whatever now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMfcC643Odo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005822)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:11 PM
Author: Puce unhinged marketing idea circlehead

Arent the Chinese in Manchuria more chad like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005760)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 12:23 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

yea they are apes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48005830)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 2:51 PM
Author: Puce unhinged marketing idea circlehead

Wangfei, any good books about ancient Chinese history in Engrish?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48006335)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 3:24 PM
Author: Startling Vibrant Gay Wizard Address

understanding that i am taiwanese, so my ancient chinese history is not up to par and bias - obviously ancient chinese history is very vast, but you can divide it into pre and post qin dynasty. you will find more post qin dynasty scholarship out there but one of the problems is what we have today is only what survived after mao - they burned everything they could of the old culture, so many of the really old pre qin dynasty texts were lost and what remains is ccp approved re writing of chinese history. personally, i find pre qin history fascinating. for english, most would probably point to johnathon spence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48006424)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 7:58 PM
Author: Puce unhinged marketing idea circlehead

Looking for pre qin actually. Do you think three sovereigns and five emperor's are all mythological flame? So hard to find stuff on then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48007408)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: Adventurous spot

they aren't making any more land and china is running out of space for its population

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48006345)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 10:40 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

they just converted a HUGE area in the west that was desert into furking forest u stupid faggot

and ljl on one hand u say CHINA DONE HERE CAUSE POP COLLAPSE!! now u say CHINA DONE HERE CAUSE NOT ENOUGH LAND FOR POP!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48007946)



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Date: August 26th, 2024 11:13 AM
Author: Adventurous spot

so we agree china is done here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48009254)



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Date: August 26th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

its just getting started

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48009353)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 2:59 PM
Author: concupiscible ceo

I rike a martin ruther king bourevard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48006360)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 4:01 PM
Author: salmon institution

No dilapidated strip malls littered with “for lease” signs and abandoned big box stores

No homeless encampments

No black slums

No panhandlers accosting you on the street

No indios selling trinkets on the sidewalk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48006514)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 4:21 PM
Author: snowy coffee pot meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48006573)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 10:40 PM
Author: Crimson Wild Mental Disorder

veddy many modern architecture and cool looking stuff, so many WOW moments even in small chink towns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48007948)



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Date: August 25th, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: Curious territorial useless brakes parlor

lollercausting HARD ITT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5582802&forum_id=2#48007425)