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Cravath3L debacle.....MY TAKE
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:26 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann I think this is a good lesson to all of you who put personal information on this board. Cravath3L never did anything wrong, yet by virtue of him revealing his firm offer, and the existence of dumbasses like pauliewalnutz, he will now have to deal with some serious issues. Even if it's all flame, i guarantee he wishes he had never posted him firm.
No one has linked to a single even mildly racist post of his, and yet if one of the losers does in fact send info to cravath, he will have to answer to them about posting here in general and under their name, as MTG pointed out.
Most importantly, this debacle demonstrates the shitbag rules we call the "outing policy." Fact is, this event, even without a name or personal information being released, could prove to be a million times more detrimental to someones life than a bunch of faggy little babies knowing some hot girls real name. I'm disappointed in GTO for not applying the appropriate rules to this and other similar cases. I hate to admit that I believe that GTO is personally enjoying this event, and believes that it might even draw more attention to his site if this really becomes something (Cravath catches wind). |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:27 AM Author: snowy stage Thank god. I told myself I wouldnt go to bed until TALC weighed in on the Cravath3L situation. Finally I can get some sleep. tytyty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465527) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:28 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann yw. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465539) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:27 AM Author: Chartreuse heady private investor Moral of a the story: being an arrogant shithead (name dropping a prestigious firm) will bite you in the end. The world is just. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465530) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:30 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann This is probably the truth actually. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465550) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:37 AM Author: opaque nudist knife yup. he basically outed himself. moral of the story: don't do that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466230) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:28 AM Author: razzmatazz kitty cat candlestick maker How could GTO have prevented this? Having an outing policy is not going to stop someone from emailing a firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465537) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:29 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann no, but paulywalnuts should be duly banned, and those threads be erased. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465549) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:30 AM Author: razzmatazz kitty cat candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465552) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:31 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann how is that wrong? Besides the same thing happens whenever someone gets outed, the punishment is always retroactive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465556) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:33 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann sorry i meant banned, not outed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465567) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:33 AM Author: razzmatazz kitty cat candlestick maker Oh okay, I agree then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465568) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:31 AM Author: filthy galvanic meetinghouse party of the first part titcr
However he goes to Fordham law and has no future to ruin. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:38 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann lolz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465597) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:32 AM Author: Bistre aromatic becky dopamine so GTO should start censoring people? great fucking solution you fucking dipshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465557) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:37 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann that's not censorship, that's protecting free speech on this board without the threat of unjustifiable consequences. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465593) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:45 AM Author: Bistre aromatic becky dopamine cravath3L spoke freely about "faggots" and "niggers." then pauliewalnutz spoke freely about cravath 3L. where, exactly, is the problem here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465627) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:47 AM Author: Useless red abode link to cravath ever calling someone the N word? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465633) |
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Date: January 30th, 2007 11:43 AM Author: irate ticket booth Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:47 AM Author: roflmuffin
link to cravath ever calling someone the N word?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465633) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:38 AM Author: opaque nudist knife i don't think you understand the concept of free speech (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466231) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:47 AM Author: irate ticket booth Seems to be a hobby of yours. Picking through threads after they've been cooked to extra well done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466242) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:55 AM Author: opaque nudist knife eat any earlier and your risk toxoplasma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466255) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:32 AM Author: Chartreuse heady private investor I agree. It's pretty fucking hard to moderate from a 57' Benetau. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465565) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:36 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann I think it's the Annaliesse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465578) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 11:08 AM Author: Aquamarine cracking pit gto is rumored to have a powerboat, not a beneteau 57. besides the correct misspelling is beneslow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466659) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:32 AM Author: adventurous new version set What the hell would he have to answer for? There is absolutely no proof that it's him.
Also, remember that GTO isn't a "moderator," just an "owner." In case anybody had forgotten, check XO's wikipedia entry that he recently edited. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:35 AM Author: razzmatazz kitty cat candlestick maker Well the buck has to stop somewhere. Someone's gotta be in charge. Who's it gonna be, Alexander Haig? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465575) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:37 AM Author: grizzly twisted fortuitous meteor stfu. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465586) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:39 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann helpful, but I disagree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465599) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:41 AM Author: Appetizing goyim toilet seat The only poster I'm annoyed at is Columbia JD for making CLS look bad: http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=567817&mc=40&forum_id=2#7465027 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465612) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:45 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann Seriously, he was the second douchiest character in this incident for sure. Especially because he started acting like he had nothing to do with it as soon as real consequences became possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465625) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:45 AM Author: irate ticket booth That Hazelrah guy also makes CLS look really bad.
[EDIT] Nevermind. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:47 AM Author: razzmatazz kitty cat candlestick maker I'd be careful what you say, he might unleash the power of the xoxo reader onto you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465638) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:49 AM Author: irate ticket booth That's one of the funniest ideas for a blog I've seen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465646) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 7:23 AM Author: judgmental jew sound barrier Anthony Ciolli should be shot in the face. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466332) |
Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:41 AM Author: razzmatazz kitty cat candlestick maker GTO should post a sticky instructing people on how to best hide their identities and detailing the outing policy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465611) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:44 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann He has so much time to work on BIG CHANGES, and scholarly papers, and yet cant set aside 20 minutes to delineate the exact outing policy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465622) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:02 AM Author: domesticated telephone national The outing policy isn't my invention. If rachmiel wants to clarify it further he can feel free, but I don't see why it's necessary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465691) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 11:16 AM Author: cobalt mother What's the use of having a policy if no one knows what it is? It can't act as a deterrent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466677) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:46 AM Author: grizzly twisted fortuitous meteor what sort of idiot needs that sort of "instruction"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465632) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:47 AM Author: irate ticket booth TITCR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465639) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:49 AM Author: razzmatazz kitty cat candlestick maker Some people come here and have no idea what they are getting into. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465644) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:56 AM Author: Racy indian lodge ratface Chilling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465666) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:58 AM Author: grizzly twisted fortuitous meteor in that case, they don't need instructions, they need a warning.
WARNING: Those who frequent this board are vicious, sociopathic assholes. Check yourself so you don't wreck yourself. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:02 AM Author: irate ticket booth It's -check yaself b 4 ya wreck yaself-.
PS. Westside. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:51 AM Author: 180 filthpig library titcc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466032) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:46 AM Author: grizzly twisted fortuitous meteor it didn't quite fit the normal warning style. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466239) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:52 AM Author: out-of-control ungodly theater stage cumskin 3L got what he fucking deserved, and anyone who feels bad for him should call the waaambulance.
-HTHF
EDIT: Moral of the story: If you're going to post anything that violates what would be considered a "social norm", then don't bring in elements of your real life into the equation. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:53 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann huh? what are you talking about? Has he ever said anything racist to you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465658) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:57 AM Author: out-of-control ungodly theater stage cumskin If he was really that great a chap, what does he have to worry about? Although it's true that you can't point to a specific directly racist comment he's made, it's pretty evident by his posts that he harbors some opinions that some people will take serious issue with. If he's man enough to voice them, then he's man enough to face the consequences of people finding about his real identity. Although I'd prefer not to be outted, I haven't said anything that would seriously jeapordize my personal or professional life on this board...if he was fucktarded enough to do so, his fault. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465672) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:00 AM Author: Bistre aromatic becky dopamine this is right. i know you and TALC went out on your little orange county date together, but as this thread proves, TALC is a dishonest kike who can't be trusted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465683) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:01 AM Author: out-of-control ungodly theater stage cumskin WTF are you talking about? My post says absolutly nothing of the sorts. Go off yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465689) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:04 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann your true colors are now showing. Way to erase any shred of credibility. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465708) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:05 AM Author: irate ticket booth LOL @ you taking Jesse seriously. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465713) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:07 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann yeah, i know. :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465731) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:02 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann the whole point is that there could be real shitty consequences even if he was the board angel. Imagine if you got into NYU LS, and someone on this board emailed the dean that you were antisemitic. Even without proof, it could cause a serious problem. Worse still, Cravath is a business, and is very PC, so any indication of this kind of problem is not worth their trust of a new associate. It's like if they caught wind of him being potentially sexually perverse with a female coworker, but could not substantiate the claim. He'd still be fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465698) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:05 AM Author: domesticated telephone national I think you're greatly overestimating Cravath's sensitivity to something like this.
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:08 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann Who knows? Maybe you're right, but I certainly wouldn't want to take the chance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465736) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:08 AM Author: Bistre aromatic becky dopamine then don't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465738) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:12 AM Author: domesticated telephone national Look, people need to take personal responsibility for their actions. If someone did email Cravath (which I highly doubt actually happened), it's pretty clear that the responsible parties are primarily Columbia JD and Cravath3L -- Columbia JD for bringing this whole thing to xo, and Cravath3L for doing whatever it is he did to really piss off Columbia JD in real life to make him want to fuck him over on xo. If Cravath3L pissed off his real life friends to the point where one of them wants to screw him over, he has to take responsibility for whatever it is he did. If xo wasn't around I'm sure Columbia JD would have found some other way to try to screw him over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465762) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:14 AM Author: Bistre aromatic becky dopamine this is so correct. people around here really need to grow up -- if you're man enough to say racist shit here, then be a man and own up to it. don't cry like a faggot to GTO. that's the moral of this story. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465777) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:16 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann ok, fair point. Except retards like "jesse" or pauliewalnutz and a bunch of other douches with no life would be happy to do something like this without any provocation. By virtue of me being jewish or Civ being black or whatever, they would screw any of us if they had the chance. That's my point. While this case is specific to Columbia tards, this policy should be instituted in general. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465788) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:18 AM Author: Bistre aromatic becky dopamine "By virtue of me being jewish or Civ being black or whatever, they would screw any of us if they had the chance."
did you seriously just post this? tell me you're not this fucking stupid. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:21 AM Author: domesticated telephone national What benefit would this "policy" have? The only reason rachmiel wanted outted people's names removed was so the damage could be undone (not have the name show up in google, etc.).
I don't see how deleting these threads accomplishes anything positive. So the threads get deleted... if Cravath was emailed, well, deleting the threads isn't going to make those emails go away. And if Cravath wasn't emailed, then deleting/banning serves absolutely no purpose.
Plus, I'm not convinced that emailing firms about actual racists on here isn't a bad thing. Maybe this incident will make people think twice about posting that kind of shit on here. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:24 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann as you can see from this thread alone, the real racists have a field day, while innocents have to put up with BS. The banning is the main point, the deleting of threads I meant in a more general sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465840) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:27 AM Author: irate ticket booth If you're serious about not having people's name and such not show up in google, why don't you change the headers to prevent google caches? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465862) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:27 AM Author: domesticated telephone national Because we want Google to cache the site? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465866) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:32 AM Author: irate ticket booth Since google already exists as a defacto search engine, why not implement a real one? Then people would be more proactive about being responsible for their posts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465893) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:19 AM Author: Jet mildly autistic point ColumbiaJD and I have absolutely no interaction irl. His feud with me was 100% from xoxo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465810) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:28 AM Author: Supple Piazza Does your firm care when you call their clients fags? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465870) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 3:42 AM Author: opaque nudist knife do you even know who CJD is in real life? i doubt it.
if you do, heh... you could make things far more interesting... |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 10:51 AM Author: Insanely creepy vengeful newt This makes the highly questionable assumption that ColumbiaJD is actually a reasonable person or that Cravath3L even knows who ColumbiaJD is. If you want personal responsibility, the effective way to do it is to give Cravath3L all the information you have on ColumbiaJD's identity so they can sort this out themselves. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466603) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 11:00 AM Author: Pale vigorous elastic band what would be the point? you do realize tha columbiajd did not provide ANY information about the anonymoose, and did not report the guy. here is what happened. he bitched about anonymoose, linked him to another poster. some other poster provided the informaion about the guy, and a different poster yet claims to have emailed some firm. what exactly is there to sort out? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466636) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:13 AM Author: out-of-control ungodly theater stage cumskin "Imagine if you got into NYU LS, and someone on this board emailed the dean that you were antisemitic."
What if I'd never posted here before and someone who didn't like me at NYU decided that they'd e-mail some vague threads to my firm, attaching my name and claiming that I was the OP? Should I be worried about this? Without the OP actually posting their own name, these kinds of things are unprovable, and if confronted could be easily denied. I still say that if he really hadn't done anything wrong, then he wouldn't have any reason to worry about being outted. Above all else, this message board is a place for information about LS, firms, etc., and anyone caught posting here could simply cite that as their reason for posting. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:18 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann ok, but people who never post on this board are actually better protected from this type of shit under the current policy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465803) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:20 AM Author: insecure unholy parlour Can you please answer the question I asked you about why the fuck you care so much about this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465812) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:21 AM Author: Bistre aromatic becky dopamine because he's a racist dipshit who wants to make sure that other racist dipshits are protected. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465818) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:22 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465829) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:25 AM Author: out-of-control ungodly theater stage cumskin You're an idiot. You're not really contributing anything, so why don't you leave? Grown people are talking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465854) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:24 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann I would just hate for this to happen to me is all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465847) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:30 AM Author: adventurous new version set They could even go ahead and use your name. The point is that any firm that gives a shit would have to be pretty TTT, unless you were posting confidential information. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465884) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:06 AM Author: insecure unholy parlour Can someone please tell me why this was a big deal?
Can someone please tell me why people still think anything on this board isn't flame? |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:07 AM Author: domesticated telephone national I doubt anyone mailed his firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465730) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:11 AM Author: insecure unholy parlour Exactly. That's the point of my 2nd sentence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465753) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:17 AM Author: domesticated telephone national One of the things I'm really starting to dislike about this place is a certain subset of people trying to turn it into a nanny state. It's pretty clear from the original thread that this whole thing started because of some in real life problem between Columbia JD and Cravath3L. Cravath3L apparently did something to piss off someone who knew him in real life, and that someone decided to bring the dispute to xo, and then someone else claimed to contact Cravath about it (though I still don't think that actually happened). But even if that did happen, no rules were broken, and I'm not even sure what people would want xo to do here anyway (what possible benefit could there be in deleting these threads when there's been no outing or anything like that?). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465793) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:21 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann All I'm saying is that if you put yourself in Cravath3L's shoes, you'd be pretty pissed too. Maybe even worried. You said that you hate when things actually screw people IRL at some point, and that's part of why we have the outing policy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465824) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:24 AM Author: domesticated telephone national Umm, I have been in Cravath3L's shoes... moreso actually since I actually had some psycho call my firm this summer.
Result? Nothing bad happened. Still got my offer. All is well.
I'd be absolutely amazed if the result would be any different if someone actually emailed Cravath about Cravath3L. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:26 AM Author: razzmatazz kitty cat candlestick maker The Cravath3L incident pales in comparison to TWO FUCKING SUBPOENAS!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465859) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:27 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann right. And im sure you were worried about it for a while. Besides, there is a difference between something bad happening , and the possibility of something bad happening.
So what you're saying is that if in fact the emails were sent, and he does lose his offer, then you'll do something about it? |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:28 AM Author: domesticated telephone national What could I possibly do about it? Use my mystic fairy wand to magically create a biglaw offer for him? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465874) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:33 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann the point is that if you make an example out of people that pull this shit now. There is less chance of it happening again. especially because it's unlikely that there are any real consequences in this case. Same thing as the outing policy, it's a preventative measure.
And I don't like your attitude one bit. Check yoself b4 U wreck yoself. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:47 AM Author: razzmatazz kitty cat candlestick maker Make an example? How so? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465993) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:21 AM Author: razzmatazz kitty cat candlestick maker First they came for the racists, but I was not a racist... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465825) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:23 AM Author: Bistre aromatic becky dopamine then they came for the women, but luckily, no women post here, just gay men pretending to be women. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465835) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:57 AM Author: 180 filthpig library then they came for those with grades below median, and pwn3d me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466073) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 9:36 AM Author: Tripping hospital And then they came for the heterosexuals, but I was the only one left, and there was noone left to speak for me... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466438) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:22 AM Author: Bistre aromatic becky dopamine i endorse your use of "nanny state." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465830) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 7:15 AM Author: Submissive Indirect Expression "ColumbiaJD and I have absolutely no interaction irl. His feud with me was 100% from xoxo."
This would seem to contradict your main premise.
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:29 AM Author: Twinkling resort OP stop crying you fag. Cravath3l can delete everything he ever wrote on this board if he wants to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465880) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:36 AM Author: Pontificating Mischievous Menage Boltzmann Just hope this doesn't happen to you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465915) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:41 AM Author: insecure unholy parlour You do realize that if someone emailed his firm (which obviously didn't happen), the only thing they would get was that a SA who may or may not be from CLS (which there is no short of SA's from) posts on a website about law school and admissions, and there is no evidence that this CLS3L person posted anything bad, right?
You people think people care about this petty, juvenile shit a lot more than they actually do.
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:45 AM Author: adventurous new version set Right, again, they can't prove it's him and probably wouldn't give a shit anyway. The only time anything like this would concern them is if someone were posting material non-public information about a client or something, in which case they might still not be able to prove anything but would at least look into it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465973) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 9:29 AM Author: Indigo big-titted codepig cruise ship My take:
Some of Cravath3L's comments were pretty bad. They might be labled as standard fare for xoxo, but they are the kind of comments that if someone said in real life, people would be very offended. Cravath3L should have known that Cravath would not like it if he made such comments in connection with their firm name.
He has two potential defenses, neither of which are particularly compelling to me. First, he can argue that he was just a schtick. This may be true, but this doesn't change the fact that others might not understand that he was schtick and that this might not lessen the anger that Cravath would feel upon finding out that someone is linking their name with racist/homophobe statements. Second, he can argue that his statements are in line with the type of comments that others on this board make. I don't think this second defense is that compelling either.
Though I disapprove of Cravath3L's actions (and if I were Cravath, I would seriously question his judgment for doing something that would have such a high probability of affiliating the Cravath name with something racist), I also disapprove of the actions of ColumbiaJD and pauliewalnuts. They have set a dangerous precedent: Now, any time that someone here is offended by something that an outed person has said, the offended person might basically be able to seriously mess with the person's life.
I'm leaving this board. I'm leaving because I'm sick of the racism and sick of the fact that it's such a common occurrence that I'm used to it. I'm also leaving, obviously, because I've been outed for a long time. Though I haven't said anything racist, homophobic, sexist, etc., I apprantly have offended people (as well all probably have) and do not wish to be the subject of this kind of sanction.
GTO, I understand your reluctance to turn xoxo into some sort of nanny state. But you may have to come to grips with the fact that you might gain a lot of posters (and prevent others from leaving) by censoring out inappropriate comments. You are not the gov'n. You can censor people (as many other message boards do) without violating the First Amendment. Until you do, you can count me out. Peace. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 9:32 AM Author: Comical patrolman Nobody cares. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466431) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 10:10 AM Author: Useless red abode I'm surpirsed anyone is offended by it. I haven't seen him say anything that I don't hear regularly in real life. Nothing egregious or worthy of this hooplah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466491) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:36 PM Author: domesticated telephone national I still am not sure what the actual offensive posts are. Seems all he did was attack AA, which is a pretty mainstream position. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7467299) |
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Date: January 30th, 2007 11:43 AM Author: irate ticket booth Date: January 22nd, 2007 10:10 AM Author: roflmuffin
I'm surpirsed anyone is offended by it. I haven't seen him say anything that I don't hear regularly in real life. Nothing egregious or worthy of this hooplah.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7466491) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:35 PM Author: domesticated telephone national We've been working on a solution to the racist flame issue, but it's going to take a while to implement. If you want to leave that's your call, but this has been on our agenda for a while now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7467290) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:39 PM Author: irate ticket booth How about an actual email verification like every other forum out there? Not so hard to implement and cuts down on the number of troll accounts. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7467320) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:40 PM Author: domesticated telephone national We had email verification for several months. No difference.
EDIT: And we're looking for real solutions, not bandaids. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:45 PM Author: slap-happy irradiated stead depressive "We had email verification for several months"
ummm, it's broken. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:46 PM Author: domesticated telephone national "We HAD email verification for several months"
We got rid of it. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:49 PM Author: slap-happy irradiated stead depressive ahhhhh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7467391) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:50 PM Author: domesticated telephone national If anything I'd say it's more likely that we move to lack of registration (or greatly abbreviated registration) than harder registration (once we implement our idea to cut down the racism). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7467407) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 1:59 PM Author: dashing senate national security agency "(once we implement our idea to cut down the racism)."
So you're going to make this site racist against whites? |
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Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:02 PM Author: domesticated telephone national You know, it's not generally a good idea to kick a gift horse in the mouth.
Posts like this that are making me *really* reconsider what I posted above and just banning you outright.
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Date: January 30th, 2007 1:10 PM Author: soggy quadroon hell What's your new moniker? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7512115) |
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Date: March 29th, 2008 7:44 AM Author: Talented Blathering House Legend Reply
Date: January 22nd, 2007 2:24 AM Author: Great Teacher Onizuka
Umm, I have been in Cravath3L's shoes... moreso actually since I actually had some psycho call my firm this summer.
Result? Nothing bad happened. Still got my offer. All is well.
I'd be absolutely amazed if the result would be any different if someone actually emailed Cravath about Cravath3L.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#7465841)
LOL |
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Date: March 29th, 2008 11:25 AM Author: Buff maniacal hall associate nice find (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#9548711) |
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Date: March 29th, 2008 5:12 PM Author: Talented Blathering House Legend HAHAHAHAHA LOOK ABOVE!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=567868&forum_id=2#9550037) |