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Biglaw service partner (lit) billing 2400+ with no clients of my own - options?
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:23 PM Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,., Do service partners in biglaw have any lateral options (outside of moving with a rainmaker)? I assume no other biglaw firm wants or needs another biller just doing the work, and midlaw/boutiques will be presumably a 50% paycut? I'm at $515k base and $100-$200k bonus depending on my collections. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751357) |
Date: March 15th, 2025 11:25 PM Author: internet g0y You have enough money at this point that you can do anything you want. Congrats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751360) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:25 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband What's it like working at DLA Piper anyway? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751361) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:27 PM Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,., My goal is to make more money (whether in current position, lateraling, or via equity partner which is another 5+ year track here) and try to get away from the bad rainmaker partner dumping all these bad cases on me to run.
Issues with lateraling -- no clients, zero trial experience, and I start from scratch with no goodwill even assuming I could get an offer. I see laterals come here any they struggle to get up to speed, cannot internally network effectively or just not enough extra work to go around, and they don't really last. I don't want to jump ship to another place and end up with the same problems.
I run cases from top to bottom with usually minimal or zero associate backup (always leaving, getting asked to leave) and do all the heavy lifting from written discovery to depositions to all motion writing and court appearances etc... I don't mind the work but the pace seems unsustainable as I get older. |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:28 PM Author: internet g0y You do all the written discovery? You’ve never had a trial after I assume more than a decade? Sounds made up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751372) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:31 PM Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,., i'm out of material so i will link the reddit thread
https://www.reddit.com/r/biglaw/comments/1ber068/im_a_nonequity_service_biglaw_partner_lit_billing/
i too was confused how this guy got made partner without least serving as some support bitch on the 2-3 trials his master has had in the last 10 years. |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:32 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751385) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:34 PM Author: unchaste liberal wife (Dork Enlightenment) Running out of Reddit material tp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751389) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:35 PM Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,., lol i guess i could have asked chatgpt to keep the flame going but i'm kinda old school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751393) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:38 PM Author: the place where there is no darkness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751405) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 8:39 PM Author: ...,....,,........ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48753574) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:51 PM Author: Fyre festival founder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751450) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 8:36 PM Author: Kenneth Play (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48753564) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:32 PM Author: Emotionally + Physically Abusive Ex-Husband How about just chill out and stack cash until you get forced out, then get a lolyer job in your state's govt with 20-year retirement? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751384) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 8:39 PM Author: ...,....,,........ "Issues with lateraling -- no clients, zero trial experience"
and you call yourself a MAN? You are of no value to any decent firm.
So what if you are a good paperpusher. They need Trial Lawyers THAT CAN FUCK! |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:31 PM Author: hank_scorpio either get clients or stack enough cash to go solo somewhere cheaper and chill a bit, if you're as old as I assume you are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751379) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:32 PM Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,., 180. done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751383) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:35 PM Author: Unakite Thirteen Hotel 69 (Lolhaha) Age=flame and means nothing with money 💰 u buy youth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751391) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:36 PM Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::, go to starbucks and spill a venti mocha latte all over your balls. l’chaim. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751394) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 8:42 PM Author: ...,....,,........ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48753582) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:36 PM Author: cpap "assume no other biglaw firm wants or needs another biller just doing the work"
big assumption |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:39 PM Author: ........,.,.,.,,,,,,,....., Build relationships with the clients you are servicing. Get a couple decent size matters for them and wall off help from anyone else. Leave and profit. They’ll move the matters with you. You then have 3 years to make it do what it do at the new shop before you might have to leave again. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751408) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:39 PM Author: but at what cost just pretend you have clients. most of these equity partners in litigation can't predict one way or another whether they're going to have clients 2 years from now, let alone 5 or 10. most clients involved in high-stakes litigation who are willing to pay for biglaw have cases that are so bespoke and infrequent that it's impossible to build a consistent "book." and the vast majority of clients don't stick with the same litigation firm anyway. the only partners who can count on a perpetual book are actual famous people who everyone knows (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751409) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:43 PM Author: .,..,..,.,,..,..,,,,,,,,..,...,.,.,., At my first biglaw firm the litigation group was basically a service group for the transactional departments where the actual rainmaker partners were.Things eventually got slow and a bunch of these lit service partners lef and managed to lateral to other v50 firms.
The process was amusing because these guys always maneged to lateral to other prestigious firms as partners, but whenever I talked to associates that I knew who worked at those firms they just bithced that these people lied about having any actual portable business and that they basically do nothing. Nonetheless, these guys would inevitably stay at these firms for years, well beyond however long a low hours associate gets normally in biglaw. |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:47 PM Author: but at what cost it's amazing how long you can survive making empty promises about your "portable book" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751438) |
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Date: March 15th, 2025 11:56 PM You should commit a crime so you can just go to federal prison. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48751460) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 8:42 PM Author: ...,....,,........ So instead of getting fucked by Jews, he can get fucked by Bald Aryans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48753584) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:05 AM Prison rape is almost entirely flame/Hollywood shit. Prisons put a bit of work into keeping prisoners from (voluntarily) fucking each other and a lot in guards from fucking prisoners (liability issue). Nobody wants to rape anybody in prison, it's easier to fuck the willing and/or those selling sex. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5694814&forum_id=2#48754041) |