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Couldn't you fire "dummy missiles" alongside real ones to overwhelm defenses?

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in the...
Wine hell
  06/18/25
Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the co...
indigo hospital
  06/18/25
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thriller wagecucks hairy legs
  06/18/25
Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet...
Wine hell
  06/18/25
What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested
  06/18/25
They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket...
trip institution
  06/18/25
You can answer the question now
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested
  06/18/25
So this is actually an idea which people have used. The ide...
indigo hospital
  06/18/25
Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested
  06/18/25
What if they use lawnmower drones?
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested
  06/18/25
Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then sh...
violet roast beef knife
  06/18/25
...
Wine hell
  06/18/25
Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?
disrespectful twinkling bawdyhouse
  06/18/25
Yes
indigo hospital
  06/19/25
just trebuchet hot boulders
chest-beating abode
  06/18/25
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Magical Address Giraffe
  06/18/25
(Bobby Birdshit)
brass chad
  06/18/25
Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release ...
rose offensive patrolman
  06/18/25
No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and...
razzle-dazzle idea he suggested
  06/18/25
Man think disabled people have it hard enough
Wine hell
  06/18/25
This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.
jet space azn
  06/19/25


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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: Wine hell

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in them along with some that do, AA doesn't know the difference. Am I some insanely smart war strategist or what? Why doesn't Iran do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029366)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: indigo hospital

Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the cost of the rocket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029376)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: thriller wagecucks hairy legs



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029382)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: Wine hell

Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029414)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested

What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does it still require engineering you can barely fathom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029418)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: trip institution

They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket. You could just fill the explosives chamber with rocks or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029430)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested

You can answer the question now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029456)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: indigo hospital

So this is actually an idea which people have used. The idea is to overwhelm the defenses by sending a lot of dumber, low cost munitions, but sending a dummy makes no sense economically. At some point there are not enough anti-missile weapons to stop them all. This is why drones can be effective; send thousands to the same place you can’t shoot them all down (in theory — shoot drones is pretty easy with a gun based defense, but there are range issues).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029477)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:49 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested

Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030279)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested

What if they use lawnmower drones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029458)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: violet roast beef knife

Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then shoot them out of the real one once it gets close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029498)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: Wine hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029596)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: disrespectful twinkling bawdyhouse

Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030056)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: indigo hospital

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49031438)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: chest-beating abode

just trebuchet hot boulders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030054)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Magical Address Giraffe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030068)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: brass chad

(Bobby Birdshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029422)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: rose offensive patrolman

Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release as they fly over high ADA regions. Supposedly some of the early Russian missile strikes in 2022 included completely inert iskander missiles whose explosive payloads were substituted entirely by decoys. This allowed them to fire volleys and have significantly more decoys to overwhelm air defenses, exactly as you suggested.

https://en.topcor.ru/24483-nyt-uznal-o-zapuskaemyh-rossiej-lozhnyh-celjah-vmeste-s-raketami-iskander-m.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030052)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle idea he suggested

No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and 48 hours later poasters are saying it costs nothing to add a warhead. Guess Judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030286)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: Wine hell

Man think disabled people have it hard enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030291)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: jet space azn

This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49031415)