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Date: December 6th, 2007 5:50 PM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat TTT fascists.
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Date: December 6th, 2007 7:55 PM Author: Underhanded floppy international law enforcement agency STFU, Fag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988782) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 7:58 PM Author: Arousing wine ratface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988803) |
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Date: December 8th, 2007 10:32 AM Author: useless turdskin orchestra pit Subject: science science (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8996741) |
Date: December 6th, 2007 5:51 PM Author: trip space goyim link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8987996) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 5:54 PM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat 9:30-6 in the office. No matter what.
No link. Call to associates from teh Admin. |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:03 PM Author: trip space goyim EDIT: 9:30-5pm would not be that bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988073) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:05 PM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat having to be in the office when you dont have any work to do is horseshit. If you are going to be working till midnight no need to show up before 10 unless you have a call or a meeting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988081) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:06 PM Author: trip space goyim Yeh that does suck. Also if you are one of those people that does any telecommuting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988092) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:07 PM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat seriously. we are supposed to be professionals, not hourly staff.
its sad they cant trust their lawyers to know when they have to be in to get their work done. |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:12 PM Author: trip space goyim it will reduce morale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988125) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:13 PM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat and they dont even get paid extra prestige points like Cravath. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988129) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 5:51 PM Author: Pearl Wild Milk daniel bruard is a coward (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8987998) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:04 PM Author: Aromatic spot messiness this is actually true coming from a friend that's at STB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988079) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:05 PM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat I never lie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988083) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:21 PM Author: aphrodisiac hot idiot a second vote to confirm.
apparently it has always been firm policy per the employee handbook -- they are just emphasizing it more now.
EXTREMELY TTT. |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:22 PM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat yeah they also have secretaries monitor when you come in and leave. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988197) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:35 PM Author: ocher high-end home jewess jesus christ, what a nightmare (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988288) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 8:08 PM Author: clear juggernaut tank They take roll. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988863) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:33 PM Author: Pea-brained alpha factory reset button Subject: gwerks gwerks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988275) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 6:48 PM Author: trip space goyim I am guessing the latter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988369) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 9:07 PM Author: Bateful Silver Stead Ladyboy they've always had secretaries playing the role of stasi at least for summer associates. this is just stepping it up a notch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8989171) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 7:49 PM Author: Garnet Razzle Boistinker Personal Credit Line LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! Absolutely fucking TTT. |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 8:03 PM Author: Hyperactive magenta office brethren there are versions of this at many other firms; usually better executed, though (e.g., a 9:30 call "just so we now where you are" and no requirement on the other end of the day will tend to accomplish the same objectives) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8988831) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 9:10 PM Author: Garnet Razzle Boistinker Personal Credit Line Yes, there are plenty of TTT firms. Usually top firms don't pull shit like this, though.
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Date: December 6th, 2007 8:07 PM Author: stubborn circlehead den anyone working biglaw can imagine how much THAT SUCKS!
that alone is an autoding for STB. i can't imagine that. seriously terrible. i'd rather they dock my pay by $10k.
the best feeling in the world is getting done with a deal and going in late and going home early until you're restaffed.
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Date: December 6th, 2007 8:55 PM Author: Bateful Silver Stead Ladyboy wow i cant believe they thought this was a good idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8989105) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 9:01 PM Author: nighttime deep rigor locus that is fucking absurd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8989143) |
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Date: December 6th, 2007 9:01 PM Author: Pea-brained alpha factory reset button Subject: gwerks gwerks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8989145) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 2:50 AM Author: supple faggotry field Friend confirmed this to me too. I really doubt it has anything to do with overhiring. More likely that some associates with nothing to do decided to chill outside the office and weren't around when somebody tried to give them work. If this happens more than once then the assigning attorney/staff person can get pissed, prompting one of these email reminders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991235) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:02 AM Author: trip space goyim What practice are you in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991264) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:06 AM Author: supple faggotry field I'm not permanently in a specific group yet and I haven't done very much work of any type so far anyway. But I plan to do mostly/all transactional work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991272) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:11 AM Author: trip space goyim Have the hours gotten bad yet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991277) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:22 AM Author: supple faggotry field I did some pretty long hours a little while ago but only because I voluntarily took on an assignment that I thought was interesting. Haven't taken on anything since then and it's been pretty chill. Still manage to bill maybe two hours a day on average. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991283) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:41 AM Author: Well-lubricated Useless Brakes What is transactional bitchwork/associate work like aside from due diligence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991315) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 12:42 PM Author: supple faggotry field http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=444939&mc=88&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8992244) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:04 AM Author: useless turdskin orchestra pit Subject: science science (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991268) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:18 AM Author: supple faggotry field Do you know how this works? Attorney needs another associate to get some research done or some document drafted. Assigning person (who knows that you haven't been billing much and/or are not currently busy) calls you or sends the email saying, "Stop by X's office in 5 minutes to discuss this project" or some variation thereof. If it's like 2pm, it's not so cool to email back and be like "Uh okay but it'll have to be in 30 minutes because I need to get to the office first." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991279) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:22 AM Author: useless turdskin orchestra pit Subject: science science (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991282) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:30 AM Author: supple faggotry field Hey, I'm definitely taking advantage of the slow times too, but that doesn't mean that the work you're already doing can be done at a slower pace. There's still deadlines, client pressures, etc. and you can't be just like, The market is slow so we're just working slower.
I have only a vague understanding of how STB's assignment system works. At my firm, I don't think we do much calling on specific associates for specific projects, but I think STB does more of this. Anyway my point was that if you were in charge of staffing a somewhat urgent project and you had a short list of prospective associates, you'd get pretty annoyed the second or third time somebody told you that they were out of the office during business hours and couldn't meet right away. |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:37 AM Author: useless turdskin orchestra pit Subject: science science (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991310) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:46 AM Author: useless turdskin orchestra pit Subject: science science (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991326) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:05 AM Author: trip space goyim Isn't this why attorneys have blackberries? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991270) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:20 AM Author: supple faggotry field See above. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991281) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 5:02 AM Author: Bateful Silver Stead Ladyboy sorry this is absurd. they can email and say yo, call asap. thats what blackberries are for. at my firm and many others it is fine not to be at your desk if you dont have anything to do, but you can be sure work will come around the corner quickly. assignment coordinators dont know if youre at a conference call or at the pub anyway (unless your stasi trained secretary rats on you), no reason they cant email (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991486) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 5:07 AM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat I agree.
Problem is all it takes is one senior partner getting pissed off cause his favorite associate is sleeping in or watching an early movie cause he thought he had nothing to do.
Partner bitches and suddenly policy has to change ruining it for everyone. |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:19 AM Author: chestnut toilet seat If the cutoff was 10AM, and there were exceptions for extenuating circumstances, I'd understand it better.
But seriously: You're doing most of your work with one or two partners, for the most part. If they don't give a fuck, why should it matter? Face time requirements should depend on who you're working with, not firm policy bullshit. Unless you're hiding out to avoid work, what's the issue? |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:32 AM Author: razzle-dazzle stage Did they choose not to send an e-mail thinking it would get posted here/ATL? Anyone have anything in writing from STB? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991302) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 4:14 AM Author: Marvelous persian Firms do this when they have either drastically overhired or taken on too much work.
When they have overhired and associates duck out because partners aren't giving them work, the firm needs a face time requirement to ensure that the still-busy associates don't fume when their co-workers take three hour lunches with the girlfriend and then fuck them at home two hours later.
Firms overloaded with work demand face time to prevent associates from ducking out at certain late-afternoon hours to avoid the rush of partner hand-outs. Yea, you're on track for 2400 hours, but the firm is busy and you need to take on more work. |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 5:11 AM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat Problems with the top down management system. Instead of having management think of a reasonable way to deal with things (like blackberries), one partner overreacts to not having his associate around and admin has to bend over backwards to appease him.
True story at a random V-50 firm in NY. Firm was having a problem with a senior partner sexually harrassing summer associates at summer event after parties. Less supervision from recruiting and he would get drunk and go wild. Instead of someone asking the partner to behave, or to stay away from the events - they just cancelled the after parties completely. |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 5:13 AM Author: Bateful Silver Stead Ladyboy problem is people have no balls, from partner colleagues to the hr staff. even other partners are intimidated by the alpha partner who would be the type to yell about petty shit like this anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991496) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 5:16 AM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat if I had balls I wouldn't be a lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991498) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 5:18 AM Author: Bateful Silver Stead Ladyboy :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8991500) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 2:37 PM Author: Ultramarine Hairraiser Abode Abovethelaw just contradicted this rumor. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8992656) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:29 PM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat He's wrong. I know what I am talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8992888) |
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Date: December 8th, 2007 8:46 AM Author: Multi-colored church newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8996633) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:24 PM Author: Passionate soggy heaven http://www.abovethelaw.com/2007/12/a_simpson_thacher_trivia_quiz_1.php#more
Stop spreading rumors you retards. |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:26 PM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat Lat is wrong.
They are in the process of making the calls. |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:50 PM Author: Out-of-control foreskin degenerate I have no respect for that guy. He kisses firm ass, but couldn't hack it as a law firm attorney himself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8993040) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 4:19 PM Author: supple faggotry field Not only is Lat wrong, but he didn't even link to the thread/post correctly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8993272) |
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Date: December 7th, 2007 3:46 PM Author: Sepia Multi-billionaire p.e.b. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8993018) |
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Date: December 8th, 2007 8:32 AM Author: boyish electric furnace corner You can't possibly be saying that their website isn't up to date???
http://www.stblaw.com/div_w_flexibleworking.htm
"The Firm values attorneys for their talent and the results they obtain for our clients, and does not promote a culture of "busy work" or "face time" for any of its professionals."
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Date: December 8th, 2007 8:34 AM Author: Pea-brained alpha factory reset button Subject: gwerks gwerks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8996628) |
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Date: December 8th, 2007 8:35 AM Author: boyish electric furnace corner I suppose 1-3rd year associates aren't classified as "professionals" there; wonder if they even get health insurance benefits, surely not dental or vision? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8996630) |
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Date: December 8th, 2007 10:40 AM Author: At-the-ready famous landscape painting kitty cat BTW check the ATL correction. I am vindicated. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#8996753) |
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Date: December 9th, 2007 11:47 AM Author: light antidepressant drug property As a non-STB associate rockin' the 10-6 hours, I say get out while you can. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=727605&forum_id=2#9000996) |