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Date: November 24th, 2025 2:03 PM Author: Bronze bonkers affirmative action stead
where does the the AGs power to prosecute derive from?
the fact that trump agrees and surely signed off ok this is a great argument for ratifying the indictment.
c'mon forget about partisanship for a second amd think aboit whether this is good policy in general.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49456533) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:16 PM Author: Bronze bonkers affirmative action stead
the constitution does not require POTUS to delegate AGs. they are agents of POTUS whose authority derives from POTUS's plenary power to enforce the law. when POTUS has manifested assent to something one of his agents has done i think it's fair to say that action has been ratified.
would you be ok with POTUS not being held accountable for an illegal action he directed an agent to do if it turned out that agent wasn't properly appointed?
there are innumerable balancing tests that consider a matter's significance and that dismissing me factoring that in here with "oh so potus only has to follow important laws?" is facile, and you know it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49457479) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 6:53 PM Author: Bronze bonkers affirmative action stead
no, but at least you can tacitly admit that ratification has "jackshit" to do with it now that you have the relevant opinion which has three pages dedicated to it.
my point is that POTUS has the power to indict and when there is evidence that he approved of an indictment the SOL should be satisfied even if his agent was unqualified for some reason.
fwiw when the comey indictment came down my reaction here on xo was wishing trump pardoned him or gave some other sort of olive branch in an attempt to put an end to these political prosecutions. you're framing this with "Beautiful Leader" to imply i'm biased against the dismissal because i just want trump to win, but if i have any political bias here it's that this thinly-justified dismissal of a matter with major public interest appears politically motivated and will only exacerbate political lawfare.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49457587) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:51 PM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.
POTUS has no inherent law enforcement power. It’s purely a creature of statute. It’s not a core power like commander in chief of the military.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49460497) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.
POTUS has no inherent law enforcement power. It’s purely a creature of statute. It’s not a core power like commander in chief of the military.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49460486) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:24 PM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.
so you think Trump’s documents case should not have been dismissed because Biden signed off on the prosecution, or is that different because it involves Trump?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49460386) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 4:54 PM Author: Bronze bonkers affirmative action stead
an indictment tolls the statute of limitations. if another attorney had ratified the indictment the SOL would have tolled. i think the indictment should be constructively ratified since it was actually ratified by POTUS, the AG, etc. supporting it.
this doesn't serve the interests of the policy behind the SOL at all. comey was indicted before the SOL expired. whether or not the interim AG was appointed properly or not has no impact on what the SOL is supposed to protect him from.
if you had an attorney file a civil claim before the SOL was expired, and it turns out his bar license had lapsed because he didn't pay his dues, would it be fair for the claim to be barred by the SOL?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49457201) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 5:00 PM Author: Spruce ape
"if you had an attorney file a civil claim before the SOL was expired, and it turns out his bar license had lapsed because he didn't pay his dues, would it be fair for the claim to be barred by the SOL?"
maybe not fair, but that is what would happen, wouldn't it?
at this point, the courts can answer whether the defect was able to be cured. in criminal cases, i tend to err on the side of the charged party.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49457211) |
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Date: November 24th, 2025 5:24 PM Author: Bronze bonkers affirmative action stead
i don't think so. you could have brought suit without an attorney.
and that's the crux of what i don't like about this: the whole point of the SOL is to ensure people aren't perpetually under the specter of litigation for past conduct. filing a case tolls it because they are on notice.
a defect in the filing should only prevent the SOL from tolling if the defect arose from something related to the SOL. for example, if an indictment is dismissed for insufficient evidence but sufficient evidence has been gathered in the interim. the capacity for the prosecutor to file an indictment has nothing to do with that, *especially* in a case where the person who actually holds the power to indict publicly supported it!
i'm sympathetic to the idea that criminal shit construed favorably for the accused. but i think that should only apply when it's related to what the policy favoring the accused. for example, if evidence is suppressed for a retarded chain of custody snafu, that's fair because the accused has an interest in ensuring evidence is handled properly. a retarded snafu in the AG's appointment isn't related to the accused rights at all.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49457300) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 9:47 AM Author: Spruce ape
circling back on this because i was super busy yesterday.
i don't buy your arguments ITT. the statute is clear - interim appointment for 120 days, then the district court has the sole authority to appoint the acting US atty. court didn't do that here.
under the plain language of the statute, the president fucked up here, full stop. there have to be consequences for that. if you look at what he actually did, btw, he basically just told one of his personal shitlaw attorneys to go act as the US attorney in in a pretty important district. that's ridiculous. where do you draw the line. if a "concerned citizen" files an "indictment" within the SOL, and after the SOL passes, a qualified official "ratifies" the indictment, is it timely? i know that's not the case here, but it's an extreme example in furtherance of the argument that the onus is on the govt to make sure prosecutors and other officials are properly appointed.
you make the point that you don't agree that the president's authority should be limited in this way. that is an entirely different argument, and you're suggesting the appointment statute should be invalidated. i'm not really a fan of the unitary executive theory, but we will see what happens on that front. i'd imagine the admin is going to argue that the statute is unconstitutional.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49458891) |
Date: November 24th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: disgusting very tactful church milk
birdshits rant all day on X abt "IQ" but the trump admin is literally the most retarded admin in history
odd case
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49456509) |
Date: November 24th, 2025 1:58 PM Author: disgusting very tactful church milk
i hoap comey can sue trumpkins for this
2. Suing the Trump Administration (Bivens Claims)
Would require proving constitutional violations (e.g., malicious prosecution, due process violation)
Malicious prosecution requires: (1) criminal proceeding initiated, (2) favorable termination, (3) no probable cause, (4) malice
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49456519) |
Date: November 24th, 2025 2:07 PM Author: ocher appetizing boistinker idea he suggested
Yeah he’s still going to jail and so is the obese niggress.
Sorry libs, this year is just a warmup/“shootaround,” it’s game on in January.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49456551) |
Date: November 24th, 2025 2:47 PM Author: Ebony mother principal's office
lol at him doing it “without prejudice”
Just refile past the statute of limitations, bro
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49456721) |
Date: November 24th, 2025 5:19 PM Author: Amethyst sandwich chapel
libs good with lying under oath
libs good with prosecuting someone for something they didn't do, but you did
libs have shit for brains
libs have scum for brains
libs lie
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49457281) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.
cr and Currie already found that Bondi’s attempted ratification of the faulty indictment was inoperative since it was after the SOL had run and the original indictment was invalid
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49459699) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:03 PM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.
That’s not what the Judge said:
Generally, “[t]he return of an indictment tolls the statute of limitations on the charges contained in the indictment.” United States v. Ojedokun, 16 F.4th 1091, 1109 (4th Cir. 2021). “An invalid indictment,” however, “cannot serve to block the door of limitations as it swings closed.” United States v. Crysopt Corp., 781 F. Supp. 375, 378 (D. Md. 1991) (emphasis in original); see also United States v. Gillespie, 666 F. Supp. 1137, 1141 (N.D. Ill. 1987) (“[A] valid indictment insulates from statute-of-limitations problems any refiling of the same charges during the pendency of that valid indictment (that is, the superseding of a valid indictment). But if the earlier indictment is void, there is no legitimate peg on which to hang such a judicial limitations-tolling result.” (emphasis in original)).
IOW there was no valid indictment so the 6 month clock never starts. It would be no different than if you or me or LeBron James had secured the indictment since none of us are US attorneys. You can’t just have random people who aren’t us attorneys filing charges in an effort to toll the SOL. 18 U.S.C. § 3288 is meant for things like clerical errors, typos, etc. it doesn’t work when any random citizen who has no power to bring charges does so right before the limitations period expires.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49460285) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 5:27 PM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.
I think you need to re-read it
3288 does not save a prosecution that never lawfully existed in the first place. it’s meant for technical errors like typos and things like that. it doesn’t give a random citizen like Lindsey Halligan the constitutional authority to file criminal charges against a US citizen before the SOL expires since she was not constitutionally appointed in first place
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49460394) |
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Date: November 26th, 2025 10:35 AM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.
ok brother we’ll see who turns out to be correct here
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49462369) |
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Date: November 25th, 2025 12:35 PM
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the statute has run, no? DOJ will need to refile, if Comey's lawyers are correct.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49459453) |
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Date: November 28th, 2025 11:01 PM
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not a chance
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49469406) |
Date: November 26th, 2025 11:16 AM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.
Cons why wouldn’t Trump just nominate a US Attorney who the Senate will confirm? What’s wrong with that?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49462462) |
Date: November 28th, 2025 12:13 PM
Author: .,,,.,,,.,:,..::,,...,:,...,:,,..:,.:.::,.
https://x.com/thebabylonbee/status/1993744733387063772?s=46
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5801823&forum_id=2.#49467727) |
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