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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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Adventurous Transparent Market
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Navy deranged hissy fit
  12/16/25
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Adventurous Transparent Market
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Navy deranged hissy fit
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Navy deranged hissy fit
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
Adventurous Transparent Market
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Navy deranged hissy fit
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Navy deranged hissy fit
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug
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Adventurous Transparent Market
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Navy deranged hissy fit
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
electric faggot firefighter
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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electric faggot firefighter
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Fragrant toaster corner
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Navy deranged hissy fit
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
aqua charismatic church building round eye
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Navy deranged hissy fit
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
Exhilarant property national security agency
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Adventurous Transparent Market
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
razzle-dazzle gas station becky
  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
Curious carmine school cafeteria pozpig
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razzle-dazzle gas station becky
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Adventurous Transparent Market
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Brass pervert
  12/16/25


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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Adventurous Transparent Market



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515464)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: Adventurous Transparent Market

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug

Guns are muktzah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515647)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: Adventurous Transparent Market

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515667)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515928)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Adventurous Transparent Market



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: electric faggot firefighter

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: electric faggot firefighter



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Fragrant toaster corner

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: aqua charismatic church building round eye

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515697)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Exhilarant property national security agency

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: Adventurous Transparent Market



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle gas station becky

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: Curious carmine school cafeteria pozpig

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516135)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Navy deranged hissy fit



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle gas station becky



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Adventurous Transparent Market



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Adventurous Transparent Market



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: Sinister vigorous antidepressant drug

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Brass pervert

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515738)