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DBG, is it halakhic to bring concealed carry to synagogue?

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razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza
  12/16/25
Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shab...
Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier
  12/16/25
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razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza
  12/16/25
The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul bec...
bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul...
Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier
  12/16/25
The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some un...
bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to c...
Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier
  12/16/25
Guns are muktzah.
bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire
  12/16/25
I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bri...
razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza
  12/16/25
that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard: In an e...
Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier
  12/16/25
Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen ...
bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire
  12/17/25
state where you got semicha from before i engage you further
Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier
  12/17/25
Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Mid...
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razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza
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Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier
  12/17/25
how do they get home?
titillating volcanic crater
  12/16/25
they still live in walking distance. they drive to shul f...
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  12/16/25
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titillating volcanic crater
  12/17/25
presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?
Exhilarant cruel-hearted principal's office
  12/16/25
correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos....
Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier
  12/16/25
Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then
charismatic rebellious party of the first part
  12/16/25
ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- t...
Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier
  12/16/25
How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?
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razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza
  12/17/25
i love scholarship
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  12/16/25
genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this
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razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza
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razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza
  12/17/25
There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebrama...
bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire
  12/17/25
is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian
Wonderful Native Cuckold
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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza



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Date: December 16th, 2025 8:50 PM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier

Absolutely, assuming it’s a legal weapon. Even on shabbos. In shuls in red states, a ton of people are armed

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:03 PM
Author: razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza

18000

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:09 PM
Author: bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire

The Shabbos thing is a racket. It's like driving to Shul because who knows if a lifesaving emergency may require the use of a vehicle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515508)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:19 PM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier

Huh? At most shuls outside of MFH, many people drive to shul on friday before shabbos and park overnight. They would be able to drive if there’s some emergency in shul.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515518)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire

The point is you can't just break Shabbat because of some unknown hypothetical risk. If there were some predetermined quota and list of people designated to carry, I'd maybe buy it. As it is it's just the people who like guns and designate themselves as responsible to protect people's "lives" so they can carry on Shabbat.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:29 PM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier

wtf are u talking about? there's no shabbos prohibition to carry a gun, assuming you're inside an eruv.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515534)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:18 PM
Author: bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire

Guns are muktzah.

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Date: December 16th, 2025 10:39 PM
Author: razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza

I just texted a rabbi and he said it’s halakhic to bring as long as registered, concealed licensed and trained

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier

that's a fringe opinion. OU is the gold standard:

In an eruv – guns are not muktze, according to the majority of the authorities.

https://outorah.org/p/21842/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515705)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 5:27 AM
Author: bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire

Yeah these are the same people who say you can't make ramen on Shabbat because it's "makeh bepatish." Anyone with an ounce of integrity understands that a gun is a weapon and that weapons are muktzah except where necessary for pikuach nefesh. The issue here is that it's fake pikuach nefesh.

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Date: December 17th, 2025 7:01 AM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier

state where you got semicha from before i engage you further

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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:06 PM
Author: bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire

Yeshiva Aish Someach. My supervising rabbi was Rabbi Dr. Middos.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516569)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516693)



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:47 PM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: titillating volcanic crater

how do they get home?

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier

they still live in walking distance.

they drive to shul friday right before shabbos, park overnight, walk home friday night, walk to/from shul sat morning, walk back sat night for evening prayers, and then drive home.

people who do this are some combo: 1) fat / lazy, 2) have longer walks, 3) running late friday afternoon, 4) shitty weather, 5) bringing stuff to shul friday afternoon like food

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:41 AM
Author: titillating volcanic crater



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:25 PM
Author: Exhilarant cruel-hearted principal's office

presumably you couldnt fire the gun though?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515525)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 9:30 PM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier

correct. you cant shoot targets in your backyard on shabbos. but you obv can shoot to protect lives, as you're allowed to break shabbos to save lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515537)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:13 PM
Author: charismatic rebellious party of the first part

Surely juris DOCTORS can work on Sabbath then

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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier

ofs. international lawyers can file habeas corpus writs -- the literal translation of habeas corpus is "you have the body," and the talmud talks about this being a matter of life or death. rabbi akiva coins the term majesty of the law. malchut d'mishpat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515722)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:40 PM
Author: Violent gay wizard

How was malchut d'mishpat not taken as a moniker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49515731)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:42 PM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Adventurous hairless indian lodge

i love scholarship

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Date: December 17th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: electric legend

genuinely in awe here, you people are so good at this

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Date: December 17th, 2025 11:10 AM
Author: Crusty Nowag Sound Barrier



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:02 PM
Author: Adventurous hairless indian lodge



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: razzle rambunctious weed whacker plaza



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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
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Date: December 17th, 2025 12:48 PM
Author: bat shit crazy know-it-all multi-billionaire

There's no such phrase and it sounds like the broken hebramaic of a second tier nineteenth century shtetl dayan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5811181&forum_id=2.#49516698)



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Date: December 16th, 2025 11:45 PM
Author: Wonderful Native Cuckold

is that the sound a jew makes when it curses a christian

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