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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:41 PM Author: sticky office Am a 2005 grad. Just got told by a second firm that I was otherwise a good fit, but they were looking for a 4th year or so.
Ironically, struck out on a couple inhouse positions because I wasn't experienced enough compared to the other finalist.
New goal...save as much as possible until they kick me out of my current firm, then do something completely different that I actually enjoy. |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:42 PM Author: geriatric contagious box office cuck just say you'll come in as a 4th year, breh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018495) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:43 PM Author: sticky office well, not sure I want to do that. current firm likes me well enough, but surely not enough to make partner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018499) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:51 PM Author: Sapphire concupiscible university so entering as a 4th year should provide you with more job-security, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018542) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:55 PM Author: sticky office I guess, but that is a lot to bank on for a $50k salary decrease. I guess I could do that next year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018558) |
Date: February 21st, 2012 4:42 PM Author: Bearded Gas Station lol bro you should be a partner now, not looking for 4th yr assoc lateral scraps. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018496) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:43 PM Author: sticky office I would be the youngest partner in the last 30 years at my firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018503) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:43 PM Author: Glassy Hell lateral = Sugarcandy Mountain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018500) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:43 PM Author: sticky office where is that? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018505) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:53 PM Author: Ruby rigor public bath Just behind the ole rock candy mountain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018547) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:44 PM Author: Chrome outnumbered fat ankles useless brakes how much do you have saved? over 900k? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018507) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:46 PM Author: Topaz coldplay fan yeah can't you just retire already? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018513) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:47 PM Author: sticky office you really overestimate what you can save in biglaw if you aren't single and living like a pauper. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018516) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:47 PM Author: Topaz coldplay fan just do single living like a pauper bro. Loans at least paid off? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018517) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:48 PM Author: sticky office all except federal at 2%. kept those. its a cell phone payment essentially, so I won't ever pay that off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018527) |
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Date: January 21st, 2026 8:28 PM Author: Long Duk Dong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#49607561) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:46 PM Author: sticky office no way. Have a kid, had a bunch of loans and live in an expensive place.
Like about $500k in stock, cash and income producing real estate investments. |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:53 PM Author: learning disabled marvelous community account What kind of work do you do?
What would your chances be at partnership at a second firm if you did lateral?
What's something completely different that you actually like?
[answered above] Would the second firm take you as a 4th year if you offered to go in at that level? I can't imagine why they'd refuse to take someone more experienced at the same pay, unless they think you're a flight risk.
For the in-house gig, how much more experienced was the other guy? What was the pay like? Have you rejected worse in-house options? |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 4:59 PM Author: sticky office What kind of work do you do?
Transactional
What would your chances be at partnership at a second firm if you did lateral?
Who knows. Probably not. I don't think I am partner material. But thinking maybe I am, and just need a change of scenery.
What's something completely different that you actually like?
I liked my job in business in general product management and marketing before lawschool. Still regret going to lawschool. Think I could enjoy just starting over again in something on the business side where my law degree is essentially useless.
Would the second firm take you as a 4th year if you offered to go in at that level? I can't imagine why they'd refuse to take someone more experienced at the same pay, unless they think you're a flight risk.
Possible.. Although I don't know if that would help much, and losing $50k a year to do that seems like it doesn't make sense. I might as well just do that next year.
For the in-house gig, how much more experienced was the other guy? What was the pay like? Have you rejected worse in-house options?
Haven't had a chance to reject any jobs. Paid like $210k with bonus in all likelihood. Maybe more with a good year. Other guy was a junior partner. |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 5:05 PM Author: learning disabled marvelous community account Kind of surprising that a junior partner would take what sounds like a huge pay cut for that kind of job. I wish I knew more about in-house legal work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018603) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 5:06 PM Author: Fantasy-prone comical toilet seat institution The upside on those jobs can be a lot bigger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018611) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 5:06 PM Author: sticky office It was an awesome job....incredibly cushy. Might have paid even more for him, especially with bonus. He might have been an income partner, so not as much of a pay cut....but I was surprised as well. I thought I had the job in the bag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018613) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 5:30 PM Author: Dashing Personal Credit Line Was the other dude from a top firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018735) |
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Date: February 21st, 2012 5:34 PM Author: sticky office yes. At my firm I know that new income partners start at about $400k...so if they guy got $275k with bonus, or something like that, the difference is hardly noticable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#20018753) |
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Date: January 21st, 2026 8:32 PM Author: Cinco de Mayo Clinic simpler time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#49607564) |
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Date: January 21st, 2026 5:39 PM Author: professor hojo update? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#49607204) |
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Date: January 21st, 2026 5:46 PM Author: norwood ultra still looking to lateral as a midlevel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#49607220) |
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Date: January 21st, 2026 6:20 PM Author: ...,....,,........ Just give up and give out handjobs behind the State Bar building at this point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#49607308) |
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Date: January 21st, 2026 6:26 PM Author: Long Duk Dong TONS of biglaw burnouts end up lost in kickboxing underworld
this is what happens to lots of biglaw associates who burn out. we had a case with institutional client and boomer partner told me to assemble the "best team possible." there was a 7th year associate a few years ago who could write appellate briefs like a kid out in the rain -- some guys just have "it" and he was the best. anyway the guy flames out big time and goes off the grid. i really wanted him on my team -- found him competing at an underground kumite tournament in jakarta. i watched him win his first match from near the exit so he couldn't see me. after his match i went up to him while he was facing away taking off the tape on his fists and he out of nowhere, still looking away, says "you're a long way from home, t-unit." i told him i needed him for one last matter -- that we needed the best appellate brief writer on the planet, it might lead to more work but i couldn't promise anything, but that i would get his daily seamless $$ limit raised to $50. i'll never forget his expression -- just sort of stared off in the distance and said that was a different life, he's not even the same person anymore. he said it was good seeing me again & then put on oversized aviator sunglasses (likely to conceal his bruises) and disappeared out the back alley door into the rain
https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=2774705&mc=223&forum_id=2
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Date: January 21st, 2026 8:36 PM Author: Kenneth Play (emotional girth) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1879830&forum_id=2.#49607570) |